Danny Ings (again)
Danny Ings (again)
Anybody else still think he could to a job for us. Forget what's gone on previously. A big ask I know but change the system to two upfront and he would be ideal, we still need a creative number 10 in the box. A loan deal might be good for all parties, it would give him the chance to prove himself. No doubt there will be other interest but I'm sure the Dyche charisma would sell it. I understand he's been playing well in reserve games.
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He would be perfect for the no10 position.
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Been out injured for 2 seasons and I'm still annoyed he didn't sign a contract with us. Time to move on.
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I'm sure we could negotiate a loan deal based on his fitness. Apart from cover for Brady, he is exactly what we need.
Up to Sean but I'd love it.
Up to Sean but I'd love it.
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Will not come back whilst Mr Dyche is here.... And I'd rather have Mr Dyche here than Mr Ings.
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We could definitely do with some of the creativity he would bring, but without the knee ligaments made out of old GPO rubber bands.
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Not that I’m for/against this but would Liverpool want to loan anybody else to us after sending us Flanagan last season and us not using him.
In fact I can’t see us getting anybody in on loan as they don’t tend to get much game time with us
In fact I can’t see us getting anybody in on loan as they don’t tend to get much game time with us
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4/9 to go to Newcastle.
Rafa's already got this one wrapped up.
Rafa's already got this one wrapped up.
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Tbh, Klopp probably ****** himself that we even took him for more than putting the bins outwilks_bfc wrote:Not that I’m for/against this but would Liverpool want to loan anybody else to us after sending us Flanagan last season and us not using him.
In fact I can’t see us getting anybody in on loan as they don’t tend to get much game time with us
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did I miss something?IAmAClaret wrote:Will not come back whilst Mr Dyche is here.... And I'd rather have Mr Dyche here than Mr Ings.
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Story is he didn't leave on the best terms. He ran his contract down after Burnley 'nursed' for two years.bfc1984 wrote:did I miss something?
Not saying I blame him but it was messy.
May be a real good loan signing but he won't be the big shot he was in his last season for us. Can't see Sean Dyche taking him back like he would for example Trippier.
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Dyche would take Trippier back like a shot, the two of them get on that well.
From what I'm told that is very unlikely to happen at Burnley with the current set up, but I'm not sure what the obsession is with Ings. We know his ability but we've moved on a hell of a lot from when he played for us and he's hardly kicked a ball in the two and a half years since. I know there are a lot of clubs interested in taking him on loan, will be interesting to see where he goes.
From what I'm told that is very unlikely to happen at Burnley with the current set up, but I'm not sure what the obsession is with Ings. We know his ability but we've moved on a hell of a lot from when he played for us and he's hardly kicked a ball in the two and a half years since. I know there are a lot of clubs interested in taking him on loan, will be interesting to see where he goes.
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Not sure it was so much running his contract down as his attitude in his last few months at the club once Liverpool had officially shown interest. I think in general from the promotion season onwards his attitude was that he was too good for Burnley.
Anyone is entitled to run their contract down and that comes with its own risks.
I think he will be a good loan signing for someone, unlikely to be us, but given his injury record moving for cash would be a big risk for any club to take.
Anyone is entitled to run their contract down and that comes with its own risks.
I think he will be a good loan signing for someone, unlikely to be us, but given his injury record moving for cash would be a big risk for any club to take.
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He didn't seem too disinterested when busting a gut to score a diving header at Old Trafford in the February of his last year with us.
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It was the previous away game at Sunderland when he showed total disinterest. He'd just been told he wouldn't be going to Liverpool in that window. Dyche said after the game that he nearly didn't play him but he did and then took him off.UpTheBeehole wrote:He didn't seem too disinterested when busting a gut to score a diving header at Old Trafford in the February of his last year with us.
That goal at OT was brilliant though. Superb cross from Tripps but Ings' movement in the box to get the space is what makes it.
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Not the only player in recent history who has chosen to run his contract down.
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He's not, and I've certainly no problem with that at all. I was told that it's things that have happened since he left that would make it unlikely he'd return any time soon.Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Not the only player in recent history who has chosen to run his contract down.
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What would those things be ?ClaretTony wrote:He's not, and I've certainly no problem with that at all. I was told that it's things that have happened since he left that would make it unlikely he'd return any time soon.
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Was told relationships became very strained.conyoviejo wrote:What would those things be ?
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I preferred the JBG goal yesterday...that got everyone on their feet!UpTheBeehole wrote:He didn't seem too disinterested when busting a gut to score a diving header at Old Trafford in the February of his last year with us.
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Yet here is an interview with Dyche regarding Danny Ings weeks after the Sunderland game.
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And things could have got worse after then.
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After the window had closed whereas the sulk came before it closed. I thought Ings was fine after that, right up until the end of the season. As said, from what I've been told, it's events since he left that have soured things.Bordeauxclaret wrote:Yet here is an interview with Dyche regarding Danny Ings weeks after the Sunderland game.
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I thought the understanding was that it was largely how Ings conducted his part of the tribunal to try to ingratiate himself to Liverpool at the expense of any post-move relationship with our hierarchy?ClaretTony wrote:After the window had closed whereas the sulk came before it closed. I thought Ings was fine after that, right up until the end of the season. As said, from what I've been told, it's events since he left that have soured things.
Always been a rule of mine that you don't burn bridges on your way up, but maybe not one of Mr Ings' rules, who knows?
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I'm not disagreeingZizkovClaret wrote:I thought the understanding was that it was largely how Ings conducted his part of the tribunal to try to ingratiate himself to Liverpool at the expense of any post-move relationship with our hierarchy?
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I too have been told in the past about the "strained" relationship between Ings and our managerial team.
I watched Sean before the game, against Tottenham he went out of his way to go and shake Trippier's hand who was sat at the far end of the bench....yesterday he didn't make the same effort for Danny.
FWIW i always thought Ings didnt quite do enough in the PL season with us (admittedly his first). But he has played very little football since and so wouldn't be one of my preferences should we be looking.
Out of all of our ex strikers in recent years Charlie Austin would be top of my list to make the return
I watched Sean before the game, against Tottenham he went out of his way to go and shake Trippier's hand who was sat at the far end of the bench....yesterday he didn't make the same effort for Danny.
FWIW i always thought Ings didnt quite do enough in the PL season with us (admittedly his first). But he has played very little football since and so wouldn't be one of my preferences should we be looking.
Out of all of our ex strikers in recent years Charlie Austin would be top of my list to make the return
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With hindsight, he took a real gamble running his contract down. He’d already had two knee injuries (one very bad) and there was always a risk he could break down again. As it was, he was lucky in that his next bad injury came shortly after he had signed for Liverpool, but if it had come at the end of the previous season he could have easily been without a club.
Surprised to hear that his relationship with Dyche has gone so sour. He always seemed a decent lad when at Burnley and certainly his work in the community would support that. Never struck me as a billy big balls.
Surprised to hear that his relationship with Dyche has gone so sour. He always seemed a decent lad when at Burnley and certainly his work in the community would support that. Never struck me as a billy big balls.
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If this is the case then Sean went against everything he believes in having the right characters within the squad. Why keep him? Maybe because if we had any hope staying up that year, we needed Ings.
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I watched the warm ups for the last 2 games. As our players left the field there were lots of big hugs with Tripps. There was acknowledgment of Ings but nothing like the same warmth. I know what I read into that but you can make up your own minds as to how the players would welcome him back.
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Those annoyed that Ings didn't sign a new contract while at the same time lauding Trippier because he did might reflect on the respective transfer fees/compensation received. Just a thought.
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Danny Ings doesn't wear deodorant?Harrygate wrote:I watched the warm ups for the last 2 games. As our players left the field there were lots of big hugs with Tripps. There was acknowledgment of Ings but nothing like the same warmth. I know what I read into that but you can make up your own minds as to how the players would welcome him back.
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The problems, as suggested, started after he left.Dyched wrote:If this is the case then Sean went against everything he believes in having the right characters within the squad. Why keep him? Maybe because if we had any hope staying up that year, we needed Ings.
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Bit like being dumped by a bird so all your mates start slating her. Then a month later your'e back with her and everyone back tracks.
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The best player we've had in years. How good he is now is open to question but I'd have him back.
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Better than Defour, just to pick one.... are you serious or just trolling?ablueclaret wrote:The best player we've had in years. How good he is now is open to question but I'd have him back.
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Detour otherwise know as Defour is a fine player but Ings for me was much more fun to watch, more inventive and scored goals, a rich man's Blake.
Put Rodriguez above Defour also before injuries but many would not agree.
Put Rodriguez above Defour also before injuries but many would not agree.
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Also Heaton, Pope, Mee, Tarkowski, Keane, Brady, Gudmundsson, and i'd even argue Wood are all above Ings for meablueclaret wrote:Detour otherwise know as Defour is a fine player but Ings for me was much more fun to watch, more inventive and scored goals, a rich man's Blake.
Put Rodriguez above Defour also before injuries but many would not agree.
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Obviously Ings didn't do it for you, for me he was like Trevor Steven something the club hadn't seen in years.
Defensively Mee Tarka Trippier Keane Heaton and Pop are the best in generations and few realised just how good a defensive unit we were even the manager at times
Brady and Gudmundsson a notch below but still fine players.
Defensively Mee Tarka Trippier Keane Heaton and Pop are the best in generations and few realised just how good a defensive unit we were even the manager at times
Brady and Gudmundsson a notch below but still fine players.
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Oh he did it, largely in the Championship, but to suggest we should risk re-signing him, or that he was the best player we ever had in the modern era is just batshit.ablueclaret wrote:Obviously Ings didn't do it for you, for me he was like Trevor Steven something the club hadn't seen in years.
Defensively Mee Tarka Trippier Keane Heaton and Pop are the best in generations and few realised just how good a defensive unit we were even the manager at times
Brady and Gudmundsson a notch below but still fine players.
There aren't many players i'd have back, but Austin, Jay Rod and Gary Cahill are three, if we can count loanees.
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He could do things other players couldn't. Yes we've had more complete players, more composed players but no player in the modern era had more natural ball playing ability and end product.
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Jay Rod above Defour?
Completely different players so bit of a daft comparison, even by your standards.
Ings can carry on warming the bench at Liverpool or spend a few months regaining match fitness somewhere else.
We haven't got time to be dicking about with him.
I'd rather we signed someone who hasn't been out for the best part of 2 seasons with knee injuries.
We've moved on and are a better team without him as it stands.
Just need a winger to replace Brady because his absence is quite noticeable.
Completely different players so bit of a daft comparison, even by your standards.
Ings can carry on warming the bench at Liverpool or spend a few months regaining match fitness somewhere else.
We haven't got time to be dicking about with him.
I'd rather we signed someone who hasn't been out for the best part of 2 seasons with knee injuries.
We've moved on and are a better team without him as it stands.
Just need a winger to replace Brady because his absence is quite noticeable.
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I think the word there, painful as it may turn out to be for him, is "had"ablueclaret wrote:He could do things other players couldn't. Yes we've had more complete players, more composed players but no player in the modern era had more natural ball playing ability and end product.
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Not sure where i posted that? Unless you mean ablue?Sidney1st wrote:Jay Rod above Defour?
Completely different players so bit of a daft comparison, even by your standards.
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He was good, but the way you're waxing lyrical you'd think he was our version of Messi.ablueclaret wrote:He could do things other players couldn't. Yes we've had more complete players, more composed players but no player in the modern era had more natural ball playing ability and end product.
Joey B gets me off my seat in anticipation far more often in a game, so did Brady.
Defour is better at playing those defense splitting passes.
Ings was good, but you need to watch the new lads.
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Wasn't you.ZizkovClaret wrote:Not sure where i posted that? Unless you mean ablue?
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I would think he'll end up at either Newcastle or Huddersfield
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The troubles with Ings started while he was still with us but as others have said we have moved on
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Just a thought,why hasnt Eddie Howe came in for him?
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I'd imagine he might have been told that he's spent quite enough for what results he's getting, and he might be advised to try and coach the ones he already has?k90bfc wrote:Just a thought,why hasnt Eddie Howe came in for him?
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when he left us he was our best player along with Trippier - if he came back now I honestly don't think he would be in the top 3
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