Danny Ings (again)

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Danny Ings (again)

Post by beddie » Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:23 pm

Anybody else still think he could to a job for us. Forget what's gone on previously. A big ask I know but change the system to two upfront and he would be ideal, we still need a creative number 10 in the box. A loan deal might be good for all parties, it would give him the chance to prove himself. No doubt there will be other interest but I'm sure the Dyche charisma would sell it. I understand he's been playing well in reserve games.

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Post by Iloveyoubrady » Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:25 pm

He would be perfect for the no10 position.

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Post by KefkaClaret » Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:26 pm

Been out injured for 2 seasons and I'm still annoyed he didn't sign a contract with us. Time to move on.

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Post by Colburn_Claret » Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:29 pm

I'm sure we could negotiate a loan deal based on his fitness. Apart from cover for Brady, he is exactly what we need.
Up to Sean but I'd love it.

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Post by IAmAClaret » Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:32 pm

Will not come back whilst Mr Dyche is here.... And I'd rather have Mr Dyche here than Mr Ings.
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Re: Danny Ings (again)

Post by Lord Beamish » Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:34 pm

We could definitely do with some of the creativity he would bring, but without the knee ligaments made out of old GPO rubber bands.

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Re: Danny Ings (again)

Post by wilks_bfc » Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:35 pm

Not that I’m for/against this but would Liverpool want to loan anybody else to us after sending us Flanagan last season and us not using him.

In fact I can’t see us getting anybody in on loan as they don’t tend to get much game time with us

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Post by kentonclaret » Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:15 pm

4/9 to go to Newcastle.

Rafa's already got this one wrapped up. :lol:

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Post by Dyched » Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:17 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:Not that I’m for/against this but would Liverpool want to loan anybody else to us after sending us Flanagan last season and us not using him.

In fact I can’t see us getting anybody in on loan as they don’t tend to get much game time with us
Tbh, Klopp probably ****** himself that we even took him for more than putting the bins out

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Post by bfc1984 » Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:17 pm

IAmAClaret wrote:Will not come back whilst Mr Dyche is here.... And I'd rather have Mr Dyche here than Mr Ings.
did I miss something?

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Post by Stayingup » Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:42 pm

bfc1984 wrote:did I miss something?
Story is he didn't leave on the best terms. He ran his contract down after Burnley 'nursed' for two years.

Not saying I blame him but it was messy.
May be a real good loan signing but he won't be the big shot he was in his last season for us. Can't see Sean Dyche taking him back like he would for example Trippier.
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Re: Danny Ings (again)

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:50 pm

Dyche would take Trippier back like a shot, the two of them get on that well.

From what I'm told that is very unlikely to happen at Burnley with the current set up, but I'm not sure what the obsession is with Ings. We know his ability but we've moved on a hell of a lot from when he played for us and he's hardly kicked a ball in the two and a half years since. I know there are a lot of clubs interested in taking him on loan, will be interesting to see where he goes.

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Post by Papabendi » Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:52 pm

Not sure it was so much running his contract down as his attitude in his last few months at the club once Liverpool had officially shown interest. I think in general from the promotion season onwards his attitude was that he was too good for Burnley.

Anyone is entitled to run their contract down and that comes with its own risks.

I think he will be a good loan signing for someone, unlikely to be us, but given his injury record moving for cash would be a big risk for any club to take.

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Post by UpTheBeehole » Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:55 pm

He didn't seem too disinterested when busting a gut to score a diving header at Old Trafford in the February of his last year with us.

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:58 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:He didn't seem too disinterested when busting a gut to score a diving header at Old Trafford in the February of his last year with us.
It was the previous away game at Sunderland when he showed total disinterest. He'd just been told he wouldn't be going to Liverpool in that window. Dyche said after the game that he nearly didn't play him but he did and then took him off.

That goal at OT was brilliant though. Superb cross from Tripps but Ings' movement in the box to get the space is what makes it.

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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:59 pm

Not the only player in recent history who has chosen to run his contract down.

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:00 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Not the only player in recent history who has chosen to run his contract down.
He's not, and I've certainly no problem with that at all. I was told that it's things that have happened since he left that would make it unlikely he'd return any time soon.

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Post by conyoviejo » Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:03 pm

ClaretTony wrote:He's not, and I've certainly no problem with that at all. I was told that it's things that have happened since he left that would make it unlikely he'd return any time soon.
What would those things be ?

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:07 pm

conyoviejo wrote:What would those things be ?
Was told relationships became very strained.

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Post by tim_noone » Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:07 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:He didn't seem too disinterested when busting a gut to score a diving header at Old Trafford in the February of his last year with us.
I preferred the JBG goal yesterday...that got everyone on their feet!

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Post by Bordeauxclaret » Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:07 pm

Yet here is an interview with Dyche regarding Danny Ings weeks after the Sunderland game.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/ ... -nightlead" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by DCWat » Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:16 pm

And things could have got worse after then.

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:34 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Yet here is an interview with Dyche regarding Danny Ings weeks after the Sunderland game.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/ ... -nightlead" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
After the window had closed whereas the sulk came before it closed. I thought Ings was fine after that, right up until the end of the season. As said, from what I've been told, it's events since he left that have soured things.

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Post by ŽižkovClaret » Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:46 pm

ClaretTony wrote:After the window had closed whereas the sulk came before it closed. I thought Ings was fine after that, right up until the end of the season. As said, from what I've been told, it's events since he left that have soured things.
I thought the understanding was that it was largely how Ings conducted his part of the tribunal to try to ingratiate himself to Liverpool at the expense of any post-move relationship with our hierarchy?

Always been a rule of mine that you don't burn bridges on your way up, but maybe not one of Mr Ings' rules, who knows?

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:47 pm

ZizkovClaret wrote:I thought the understanding was that it was largely how Ings conducted his part of the tribunal to try to ingratiate himself to Liverpool at the expense of any post-move relationship with our hierarchy?
I'm not disagreeing

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Post by claret10 » Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:09 pm

I too have been told in the past about the "strained" relationship between Ings and our managerial team.

I watched Sean before the game, against Tottenham he went out of his way to go and shake Trippier's hand who was sat at the far end of the bench....yesterday he didn't make the same effort for Danny.

FWIW i always thought Ings didnt quite do enough in the PL season with us (admittedly his first). But he has played very little football since and so wouldn't be one of my preferences should we be looking.

Out of all of our ex strikers in recent years Charlie Austin would be top of my list to make the return
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Post by kaptin1 » Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:17 pm

With hindsight, he took a real gamble running his contract down. He’d already had two knee injuries (one very bad) and there was always a risk he could break down again. As it was, he was lucky in that his next bad injury came shortly after he had signed for Liverpool, but if it had come at the end of the previous season he could have easily been without a club.

Surprised to hear that his relationship with Dyche has gone so sour. He always seemed a decent lad when at Burnley and certainly his work in the community would support that. Never struck me as a billy big balls.

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Post by Dyched » Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:19 pm

If this is the case then Sean went against everything he believes in having the right characters within the squad. Why keep him? Maybe because if we had any hope staying up that year, we needed Ings.

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Post by Harrygate » Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:26 pm

I watched the warm ups for the last 2 games. As our players left the field there were lots of big hugs with Tripps. There was acknowledgment of Ings but nothing like the same warmth. I know what I read into that but you can make up your own minds as to how the players would welcome him back.

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Post by chekhov » Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:28 pm

Those annoyed that Ings didn't sign a new contract while at the same time lauding Trippier because he did might reflect on the respective transfer fees/compensation received. Just a thought.

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Post by Dyched » Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:31 pm

Harrygate wrote:I watched the warm ups for the last 2 games. As our players left the field there were lots of big hugs with Tripps. There was acknowledgment of Ings but nothing like the same warmth. I know what I read into that but you can make up your own minds as to how the players would welcome him back.
Danny Ings doesn't wear deodorant?

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:52 pm

Dyched wrote:If this is the case then Sean went against everything he believes in having the right characters within the squad. Why keep him? Maybe because if we had any hope staying up that year, we needed Ings.
The problems, as suggested, started after he left.

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Post by Dejavu » Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:55 pm

Bit like being dumped by a bird so all your mates start slating her. Then a month later your'e back with her and everyone back tracks.

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Post by ablueclaret » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:14 pm

The best player we've had in years. How good he is now is open to question but I'd have him back.

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Post by ŽižkovClaret » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:16 pm

ablueclaret wrote:The best player we've had in years. How good he is now is open to question but I'd have him back.
Better than Defour, just to pick one.... are you serious or just trolling? :lol:
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Post by ablueclaret » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:23 pm

Detour otherwise know as Defour is a fine player but Ings for me was much more fun to watch, more inventive and scored goals, a rich man's Blake.
Put Rodriguez above Defour also before injuries but many would not agree.

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Post by ŽižkovClaret » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:25 pm

ablueclaret wrote:Detour otherwise know as Defour is a fine player but Ings for me was much more fun to watch, more inventive and scored goals, a rich man's Blake.
Put Rodriguez above Defour also before injuries but many would not agree.
Also Heaton, Pope, Mee, Tarkowski, Keane, Brady, Gudmundsson, and i'd even argue Wood are all above Ings for me

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Post by ablueclaret » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:29 pm

Obviously Ings didn't do it for you, for me he was like Trevor Steven something the club hadn't seen in years.
Defensively Mee Tarka Trippier Keane Heaton and Pop are the best in generations and few realised just how good a defensive unit we were even the manager at times
Brady and Gudmundsson a notch below but still fine players.

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Post by ŽižkovClaret » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:32 pm

ablueclaret wrote:Obviously Ings didn't do it for you, for me he was like Trevor Steven something the club hadn't seen in years.
Defensively Mee Tarka Trippier Keane Heaton and Pop are the best in generations and few realised just how good a defensive unit we were even the manager at times
Brady and Gudmundsson a notch below but still fine players.
Oh he did it, largely in the Championship, but to suggest we should risk re-signing him, or that he was the best player we ever had in the modern era is just batshit.

There aren't many players i'd have back, but Austin, Jay Rod and Gary Cahill are three, if we can count loanees.

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Post by ablueclaret » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:35 pm

He could do things other players couldn't. Yes we've had more complete players, more composed players but no player in the modern era had more natural ball playing ability and end product.

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Post by Sidney1st » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:35 pm

Jay Rod above Defour?

Completely different players so bit of a daft comparison, even by your standards.

Ings can carry on warming the bench at Liverpool or spend a few months regaining match fitness somewhere else.
We haven't got time to be dicking about with him.

I'd rather we signed someone who hasn't been out for the best part of 2 seasons with knee injuries.
We've moved on and are a better team without him as it stands.

Just need a winger to replace Brady because his absence is quite noticeable.

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Post by ŽižkovClaret » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:36 pm

ablueclaret wrote:He could do things other players couldn't. Yes we've had more complete players, more composed players but no player in the modern era had more natural ball playing ability and end product.
I think the word there, painful as it may turn out to be for him, is "had"

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Post by ŽižkovClaret » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:37 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Jay Rod above Defour?

Completely different players so bit of a daft comparison, even by your standards.
Not sure where i posted that? Unless you mean ablue?

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Post by Sidney1st » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:38 pm

ablueclaret wrote:He could do things other players couldn't. Yes we've had more complete players, more composed players but no player in the modern era had more natural ball playing ability and end product.
He was good, but the way you're waxing lyrical you'd think he was our version of Messi.

Joey B gets me off my seat in anticipation far more often in a game, so did Brady.
Defour is better at playing those defense splitting passes.

Ings was good, but you need to watch the new lads.

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Post by Sidney1st » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:39 pm

ZizkovClaret wrote:Not sure where i posted that? Unless you mean ablue?
Wasn't you.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:40 pm

I would think he'll end up at either Newcastle or Huddersfield

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Post by Papabendi » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:47 pm

The troubles with Ings started while he was still with us but as others have said we have moved on

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Post by k90bfc » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:59 pm

Just a thought,why hasnt Eddie Howe came in for him?

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Post by ŽižkovClaret » Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:02 pm

k90bfc wrote:Just a thought,why hasnt Eddie Howe came in for him?
I'd imagine he might have been told that he's spent quite enough for what results he's getting, and he might be advised to try and coach the ones he already has?

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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:11 pm

when he left us he was our best player along with Trippier - if he came back now I honestly don't think he would be in the top 3
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