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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by IanMcL » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:42 pm

Typical Aguerro! He should play for us! He is good enough!

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by Stayingup » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:43 pm

Come on Bristol. Beat Abu Dhabi

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by mybloodisclaret » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:44 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Apparently Bristol have taken the biggest ever away following of nearly 8k to the Etihad tonight.

Aguero is on the bench, Sterling playing through the middle.
Did it not irk anyone else that this was the biggest following EVER at the Etihad when we took the same at the weekend. Don't know why it's oined me, but it is what we took?

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:45 pm

Appears they somehow got more tickets.

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by Silkyskills1 » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:52 pm

KRBFC wrote:1-1, just sensational..... look at the pass from the Goalkeeper under immense pressure, defence to attack in 1 pass. That's why Pep got rid of Joe Hart.
under immense pressure? He just passed it 25 yards down the middle off the pitch to an unmarked player. Bloody hell, can you not make a statement without hyperbole or just to be argumentative. Jesus, give it a rest.
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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by Silkyskills1 » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:57 pm

Saxoman wrote:That's cos the stadium holds around 55,000
So where are they all? Wasn't empty on Saturday.

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by Spijed » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:57 pm

They need to hope that Agüero and De Bruyne stay fit because without them they have absolutely no chance of winning the Champions league.

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by CnBtruntru » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:03 pm

Cities bench worth more than our squad :D

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by Leisure » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:06 pm

KefkaClaret wrote:I'm sure City are going the season unbeaten if they don't lose to Liverpool.
Nah, they've still to play at the Turf!

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by Spijed » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:07 pm

Is Mangala any better than what we have in defence?

He's awful!

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by Sidney1st » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:17 pm

He's £40 odd million awful :lol:

Wasn't that quite a protracted transfer too due to his ownership issues, hence the high price??

Edit - my price was a bit low.

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by LS7 » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:58 pm

All this talk of the size of the following is irritating. It’s their big day out. The clarets’ following last sat is more noteworthy.

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by KRBFC » Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:21 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:under immense pressure? He just passed it 25 yards down the middle off the pitch to an unmarked player. Bloody hell, can you not make a statement without hyperbole or just to be argumentative. Jesus, give it a rest.
I thought it was fantastic vision and composure.

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by tiger76 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:11 am

KefkaClaret wrote:I'm sure City are going the season unbeaten if they don't lose to Liverpool.
Don't think they will go unbeaten they have had some close escapes recently Palace notably,still look shaky at the back as well.Stones can't keep making basic errors if he wants to maintain his World Cup place.

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:16 am

KRBFC wrote:I thought it was fantastic vision and composure.
We must be on about different goalies.

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by KRBFC » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:20 am

Sidney1st wrote:We must be on about different goalies.
What? I'm talking about one pass, how can we be on about different goalies? and why does it matters which goalie it was? confused

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:25 am

KRBFC wrote:What? I'm talking about one pass, how can we be on about different goalies? and why does it matters which goalie it was? confused
It was a simple pass, you're over egging it.

My reference to different goalies is about seeing the Bravo from Saturday to this one against Bristol.

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by KRBFC » Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:56 am

Sidney1st wrote:It was a simple pass, you're over egging it.

My reference to different goalies is about seeing the Bravo from Saturday to this one against Bristol.
So how is it different goalies if Bravo played in both games? I'm confused tbh... Are you trying to tell me Bravo is s###? if so, why do I care how good he is? I'm simply stating I thought his pass tonight was brilliant.
The lads on The Debate thought it was pass of the night, I agree, wonderful reverse ball, something not associated with goalkeepers.

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by RVclaret » Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:10 am

It was a superb pass from Bravo. Excellent goal.

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by RammyClaret61 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:58 am

IanMcL wrote:Bristol fans doing their bit.
Great chant. “Just like Bristol, your city is red”
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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:50 am

KRBFC wrote:So how is it different goalies if Bravo played in both games? I'm confused tbh... Are you trying to tell me Bravo is s###? if so, why do I care how good he is? I'm simply stating I thought his pass tonight was brilliant.
The lads on The Debate thought it was pass of the night, I agree, wonderful reverse ball, something not associated with goalkeepers.
Are you being dense on purpose?
I thought you were smart enough to understand the reference to seeing two different Goalie's despite it being the same person, looks like I was wrong on that one.

Saying it was the pass of the night just shows how hard Bristol worked to close down City and not give them the room more than anything else.

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by Sproggy » Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:43 am

KRBFC wrote:1-1, just sensational..... look at the pass from the Goalkeeper under immense pressure, defence to attack in 1 pass. That's why Pep got rid of Joe Hart.
This is why Pep's a coaching genius.

Rather than taking Joe Hart, a capable keeper and working with him to improve his distribution, he bought a new keeper who turned out not to be very good, so rather than coaching him to the required level, sold him on again in the same season without him making an appearance. Then he spent 17 million on another new keeper with better distribution, but poor shot stopping capability. Again, rather than applying a sliver of his coaching genius to improve the latest keeper, he went and spent 36 million on yet another keeper and managed to get third (fourth?) time lucky.
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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by KRBFC » Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:38 pm

Sproggy wrote:This is why Pep's a coaching genius.

Rather than taking Joe Hart, a capable keeper and working with him to improve his distribution, he bought a new keeper who turned out not to be very good, so rather than coaching him to the required level, sold him on again in the same season without him making an appearance. Then he spent 17 million on another new keeper with better distribution, but poor shot stopping capability. Again, rather than applying a sliver of his coaching genius to improve the latest keeper, he went and spent 36 million on yet another keeper and managed to get third (fourth?) time lucky.
I think he wanted a top keeper with excellent distribution, I don't personally see Joe Hart as a top keeper these days. In fact both Bravo and Hart have already peaked, past their best, no coaching left in them. Pep is certainly a coaching genius though, I agree.

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:43 pm

I think we can all agree Hart didn't/doesn't feel the need to change his style.

If Bravo is past it etc, why pay out that money for him?
Would've been easier to keep Hart.

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by Spijed » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:05 pm

KRBFC wrote:I think he wanted a top keeper with excellent distribution, I don't personally see Joe Hart as a top keeper these days. In fact both Bravo and Hart have already peaked, past their best, no coaching left in them. Pep is certainly a coaching genius though, I agree.
But the point is, if he's such a genius why can't he develop a goalkeeper into becoming a better player?

It's obvious that he can't otherwise he wouldn't be spending millions!

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by KefkaClaret » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:12 pm

Spijed wrote:But the point is, if he's such a genius why can't he develop a goalkeeper into becoming a better player?

It's obvious that he can't otherwise he wouldn't be spending millions!
This is a pretty bizarre way of thinking. Why didn't Dyche develop Gray to be a better player? Why sign players at all? Shouldn't coaches just develop them?

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by TVC15 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:21 pm

Spijed wrote:But the point is, if he's such a genius why can't he develop a goalkeeper into becoming a better player?

It's obvious that he can't otherwise he wouldn't be spending millions!
Bit harsh - Barcelona never really had stand out keepers. Bravo is very good with his feet which is clearly paramount to Pep's style of play but last year his shot stopping was just not good enough. Pep saw this and bought Ederson who is a great shot stopper and also great with his feet.
Being a great manager is also about learning from your mistakes and spotting new talent in the transfer market. Yes of course it helps when you have the money at your disposal City do. As harsh as his treatment was of Joe Hart he's been proven to be absolutely correct as his form has fallen off a cliff these last couple of years.
All the United managers since Fergie are benefiting from his purchase of De Gea. None of them made De Gea better - Fergie and his coaching staff did that and they now have arguably the best keeper in the world. United would be even further behind City but for De Gea. He's one of possibly only 2 players with Pogba that would get in the City side.

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by Spijed » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:21 pm

KefkaClaret wrote:This is a pretty bizarre way of thinking. Why didn't Dyche develop Gray to be a better player? Why sign players at all? Shouldn't coaches just develop them?
But that's the point. Guardiola has relied as much on the transfer market to buy better players as he has done in improving others. This idea that he improves every player is nonsense. Mangala being a prime example. He's an obvious dud!
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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:39 pm

I reckon Mangala will be sold or loaned out if they get Jonny Evans in.
Assuming they can find a club daft enough to buy him and pay his wages.

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by KRBFC » Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:29 pm

Spijed wrote:But the point is, if he's such a genius why can't he develop a goalkeeper into becoming a better player?

It's obvious that he can't otherwise he wouldn't be spending millions!
Why teach a knackered old dog new tricks when you can buy a better younger player and teach him even more tricks...
I think the massive improvement in most players individually shows he's a genius coach regardless of what anyone thinks, you simply can't question him when you look at the results of his coaching. It's not even an opinion really. It really doesn't matter what a few of our bitter fans think of him, the whole football world considers him incredible.

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by KRBFC » Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:36 pm

Spijed wrote:But that's the point. Guardiola has relied as much on the transfer market to buy better players as he has done in improving others. This idea that he improves every player is nonsense. Mangala being a prime example. He's an obvious dud!
Tell me where he's bought better players..... If you look at the City line up, it's practically the same team he inherited. Ederson better than Bravo, yes, that's 1. Next?

Sane, Jesus are young players who he's developed, Leroy Sane was never this good at Schalke. Jesus unproven in Europe looks a lot better from when he first arrived. Stones was one of the best central defenders in the league (this season) before his injury, 2 mistakes on his return which will make him seem hopeless to some.

Was Stones better than Kompany?
Jesus better than Aguero?


You're talking out of your arse, making out Pep went out and bought a whole new 11 world superstars and ditched the ones he inherited. Pep simply will never win in some peoples eyes, stupidity really.

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:46 pm

Have you tied a plank to your feet so you don't crawl completely up his bum?
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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:47 pm

Out of interest why don't you have similar praise for Dyche?

You could point to numerous Burnley players and say they've improved under Dyche, yet you're not as quick to do that for some reason...

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by Silkyskills1 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:06 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Out of interest why don't you have similar praise for Dyche?

You could point to numerous Burnley players and say they've improved under Dyche, yet you're not as quick to do that for some reason...
Think it's called an agenda, Sidney. Tiresome, repetitive and sadly,at times, insulting.

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by KRBFC » Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:16 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Out of interest why don't you have similar praise for Dyche?

You could point to numerous Burnley players and say they've improved under Dyche, yet you're not as quick to do that for some reason...
I have praised Dyche though, you're choosing to ignore it....
I have praised him numerous times this year for the transformation in style, I admitted I was wrong about him on numerous old posts of mine bumped by yourself... Keep pretending I sit here slagging Dyche off daily because I don't think I have criticised any performance this season at all. You're stuck in the past, you keep waffling about things I said 2 years ago, it's old news.

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by Caernarfon_Claret » Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:32 pm

KRBFC wrote:So how is it different goalies if Bravo played in both games? I'm confused tbh... Are you trying to tell me Bravo is s###? if so, why do I care how good he is? I'm simply stating I thought his pass tonight was brilliant.
The lads on The Debate thought it was pass of the night, I agree, wonderful reverse ball, something not associated with goalkeepers.
A Jekyll and Hyde thing I think same goalkeeper but completely different performances.

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:03 pm

KRBFC wrote:I have praised Dyche though, you're choosing to ignore it....
I have praised him numerous times this year for the transformation in style, I admitted I was wrong about him on numerous old posts of mine bumped by yourself... Keep pretending I sit here slagging Dyche off daily because I don't think I have criticised any performance this season at all. You're stuck in the past, you keep waffling about things I said 2 years ago, it's old news.
So Dyche signing players, improving some and discarding others is basically the same as Pep and you generally don't acknowledge what Dyche does.
Yeah you admitted you have been wrong about him, but you're quick enough to call players like Keane shite when they've gone despite the fact he clearly isn't.
I know you don't slag off Dyche daily, but you're very very slow at praising him.

Do you need a hand getting back out of Peps arse?

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:03 pm

Caernarfon_Claret wrote:A Jekyll and Hyde thing I think same goalkeeper but completely different performances.
I'm still impressed he didn't understand what I meant by that.
Must be an age thing.

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by Caernarfon_Claret » Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:23 pm

Sidney1st wrote:I'm still impressed he didn't understand what I meant by that.
Must be an age thing.

I often make comments with tongue firmly in cheek (of my mouth) only to be taken seriously.

I'm of a generation which hesitates to use emojis.
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Post by Sproggy » Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:37 pm

>Sane, Jesus are young players who he's developed.

That's true - he's taken the 30 million quid international striker that had 8 in 13 for Brazil and turned him into a superstar. And the unknown 46.5 million pound Shalke winger has improved to score 11 in 44 for City as opposed to his paltry 11 in 47 for Shalke.
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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by KRBFC » Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:37 pm

Sidney1st wrote:I'm still impressed he didn't understand what I meant by that.
Must be an age thing.
I didn't understand the relevance to the comment I made about what I thought was a great pass, then you started banging on about ''different keepers''. I still have no idea what your point was either tbh.

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:39 pm

KRBFC wrote:I didn't understand the relevance to the comment I made about what I thought was a great pass, then you started banging on about ''different keepers''. I still have no idea what your point was either tbh.

Nevermind, I'll keep it simple for you next time.

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by KRBFC » Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:41 pm

Sproggy wrote:>Sane, Jesus are young players who he's developed.

That's true - he's taken the 30 million quid international striker that had 8 in 13 for Brazil and turned him into a superstar. And the unknown 46.5 million pound Shalke winger has improved to score 11 in 44 for City as opposed to his paltry 11 in 47 for Shalke.
Sane has played 44 games for City this season? impressive. I was clearly judging Sane off his career before this season so to mix in last seasons City stats to make it seem like he hasn't improved is funny.

Sane this year actually has 9 goals and 11 assists in 23 starts. The greatest return of his career, quite clearly improved on the 11 in 47 for Schalke you mention and judging by your figures he only got 2 goals last year for City. Not improved???? HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA nowt like talking out of your arse and mixing up stats to prove a stupid point.

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by ontario claret » Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:25 pm

Celtic fans are always their loudest when they're playing some unworthy opposition like Clyde or Stenhousemuir. It's the same at Man U. It's all about the so-called "glory".

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by duncandisorderly » Fri Jan 26, 2018 8:43 am

ontario claret wrote:Celtic fans are always their loudest when they're playing some unworthy opposition like Clyde or Stenhousemuir. It's the same at Man U. It's all about the so-called "glory".
What the **** are you on about?

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Re: Man City Vs Bristol City.

Post by ontario claret » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:30 pm

A-ha. Another Hoops fan.

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