Man City Vs Bristol City.
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Typical Aguerro! He should play for us! He is good enough!
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Come on Bristol. Beat Abu Dhabi
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Did it not irk anyone else that this was the biggest following EVER at the Etihad when we took the same at the weekend. Don't know why it's oined me, but it is what we took?Sidney1st wrote:Apparently Bristol have taken the biggest ever away following of nearly 8k to the Etihad tonight.
Aguero is on the bench, Sterling playing through the middle.
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Appears they somehow got more tickets.
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under immense pressure? He just passed it 25 yards down the middle off the pitch to an unmarked player. Bloody hell, can you not make a statement without hyperbole or just to be argumentative. Jesus, give it a rest.KRBFC wrote:1-1, just sensational..... look at the pass from the Goalkeeper under immense pressure, defence to attack in 1 pass. That's why Pep got rid of Joe Hart.
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So where are they all? Wasn't empty on Saturday.Saxoman wrote:That's cos the stadium holds around 55,000
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They need to hope that Agüero and De Bruyne stay fit because without them they have absolutely no chance of winning the Champions league.
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Cities bench worth more than our squad
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Nah, they've still to play at the Turf!KefkaClaret wrote:I'm sure City are going the season unbeaten if they don't lose to Liverpool.
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Is Mangala any better than what we have in defence?
He's awful!
He's awful!
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He's £40 odd million awful
Wasn't that quite a protracted transfer too due to his ownership issues, hence the high price??
Edit - my price was a bit low.
Wasn't that quite a protracted transfer too due to his ownership issues, hence the high price??
Edit - my price was a bit low.
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All this talk of the size of the following is irritating. It’s their big day out. The clarets’ following last sat is more noteworthy.
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I thought it was fantastic vision and composure.Silkyskills1 wrote:under immense pressure? He just passed it 25 yards down the middle off the pitch to an unmarked player. Bloody hell, can you not make a statement without hyperbole or just to be argumentative. Jesus, give it a rest.
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Don't think they will go unbeaten they have had some close escapes recently Palace notably,still look shaky at the back as well.Stones can't keep making basic errors if he wants to maintain his World Cup place.KefkaClaret wrote:I'm sure City are going the season unbeaten if they don't lose to Liverpool.
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We must be on about different goalies.KRBFC wrote:I thought it was fantastic vision and composure.
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What? I'm talking about one pass, how can we be on about different goalies? and why does it matters which goalie it was? confusedSidney1st wrote:We must be on about different goalies.
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It was a simple pass, you're over egging it.KRBFC wrote:What? I'm talking about one pass, how can we be on about different goalies? and why does it matters which goalie it was? confused
My reference to different goalies is about seeing the Bravo from Saturday to this one against Bristol.
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So how is it different goalies if Bravo played in both games? I'm confused tbh... Are you trying to tell me Bravo is s###? if so, why do I care how good he is? I'm simply stating I thought his pass tonight was brilliant.Sidney1st wrote:It was a simple pass, you're over egging it.
My reference to different goalies is about seeing the Bravo from Saturday to this one against Bristol.
The lads on The Debate thought it was pass of the night, I agree, wonderful reverse ball, something not associated with goalkeepers.
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It was a superb pass from Bravo. Excellent goal.
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Great chant. “Just like Bristol, your city is red”IanMcL wrote:Bristol fans doing their bit.
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Are you being dense on purpose?KRBFC wrote:So how is it different goalies if Bravo played in both games? I'm confused tbh... Are you trying to tell me Bravo is s###? if so, why do I care how good he is? I'm simply stating I thought his pass tonight was brilliant.
The lads on The Debate thought it was pass of the night, I agree, wonderful reverse ball, something not associated with goalkeepers.
I thought you were smart enough to understand the reference to seeing two different Goalie's despite it being the same person, looks like I was wrong on that one.
Saying it was the pass of the night just shows how hard Bristol worked to close down City and not give them the room more than anything else.
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This is why Pep's a coaching genius.KRBFC wrote:1-1, just sensational..... look at the pass from the Goalkeeper under immense pressure, defence to attack in 1 pass. That's why Pep got rid of Joe Hart.
Rather than taking Joe Hart, a capable keeper and working with him to improve his distribution, he bought a new keeper who turned out not to be very good, so rather than coaching him to the required level, sold him on again in the same season without him making an appearance. Then he spent 17 million on another new keeper with better distribution, but poor shot stopping capability. Again, rather than applying a sliver of his coaching genius to improve the latest keeper, he went and spent 36 million on yet another keeper and managed to get third (fourth?) time lucky.
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I think he wanted a top keeper with excellent distribution, I don't personally see Joe Hart as a top keeper these days. In fact both Bravo and Hart have already peaked, past their best, no coaching left in them. Pep is certainly a coaching genius though, I agree.Sproggy wrote:This is why Pep's a coaching genius.
Rather than taking Joe Hart, a capable keeper and working with him to improve his distribution, he bought a new keeper who turned out not to be very good, so rather than coaching him to the required level, sold him on again in the same season without him making an appearance. Then he spent 17 million on another new keeper with better distribution, but poor shot stopping capability. Again, rather than applying a sliver of his coaching genius to improve the latest keeper, he went and spent 36 million on yet another keeper and managed to get third (fourth?) time lucky.
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I think we can all agree Hart didn't/doesn't feel the need to change his style.
If Bravo is past it etc, why pay out that money for him?
Would've been easier to keep Hart.
If Bravo is past it etc, why pay out that money for him?
Would've been easier to keep Hart.
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But the point is, if he's such a genius why can't he develop a goalkeeper into becoming a better player?KRBFC wrote:I think he wanted a top keeper with excellent distribution, I don't personally see Joe Hart as a top keeper these days. In fact both Bravo and Hart have already peaked, past their best, no coaching left in them. Pep is certainly a coaching genius though, I agree.
It's obvious that he can't otherwise he wouldn't be spending millions!
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This is a pretty bizarre way of thinking. Why didn't Dyche develop Gray to be a better player? Why sign players at all? Shouldn't coaches just develop them?Spijed wrote:But the point is, if he's such a genius why can't he develop a goalkeeper into becoming a better player?
It's obvious that he can't otherwise he wouldn't be spending millions!
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Bit harsh - Barcelona never really had stand out keepers. Bravo is very good with his feet which is clearly paramount to Pep's style of play but last year his shot stopping was just not good enough. Pep saw this and bought Ederson who is a great shot stopper and also great with his feet.Spijed wrote:But the point is, if he's such a genius why can't he develop a goalkeeper into becoming a better player?
It's obvious that he can't otherwise he wouldn't be spending millions!
Being a great manager is also about learning from your mistakes and spotting new talent in the transfer market. Yes of course it helps when you have the money at your disposal City do. As harsh as his treatment was of Joe Hart he's been proven to be absolutely correct as his form has fallen off a cliff these last couple of years.
All the United managers since Fergie are benefiting from his purchase of De Gea. None of them made De Gea better - Fergie and his coaching staff did that and they now have arguably the best keeper in the world. United would be even further behind City but for De Gea. He's one of possibly only 2 players with Pogba that would get in the City side.
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But that's the point. Guardiola has relied as much on the transfer market to buy better players as he has done in improving others. This idea that he improves every player is nonsense. Mangala being a prime example. He's an obvious dud!KefkaClaret wrote:This is a pretty bizarre way of thinking. Why didn't Dyche develop Gray to be a better player? Why sign players at all? Shouldn't coaches just develop them?
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I reckon Mangala will be sold or loaned out if they get Jonny Evans in.
Assuming they can find a club daft enough to buy him and pay his wages.
Assuming they can find a club daft enough to buy him and pay his wages.
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Why teach a knackered old dog new tricks when you can buy a better younger player and teach him even more tricks...Spijed wrote:But the point is, if he's such a genius why can't he develop a goalkeeper into becoming a better player?
It's obvious that he can't otherwise he wouldn't be spending millions!
I think the massive improvement in most players individually shows he's a genius coach regardless of what anyone thinks, you simply can't question him when you look at the results of his coaching. It's not even an opinion really. It really doesn't matter what a few of our bitter fans think of him, the whole football world considers him incredible.
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Tell me where he's bought better players..... If you look at the City line up, it's practically the same team he inherited. Ederson better than Bravo, yes, that's 1. Next?Spijed wrote:But that's the point. Guardiola has relied as much on the transfer market to buy better players as he has done in improving others. This idea that he improves every player is nonsense. Mangala being a prime example. He's an obvious dud!
Sane, Jesus are young players who he's developed, Leroy Sane was never this good at Schalke. Jesus unproven in Europe looks a lot better from when he first arrived. Stones was one of the best central defenders in the league (this season) before his injury, 2 mistakes on his return which will make him seem hopeless to some.
Was Stones better than Kompany?
Jesus better than Aguero?
You're talking out of your arse, making out Pep went out and bought a whole new 11 world superstars and ditched the ones he inherited. Pep simply will never win in some peoples eyes, stupidity really.
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Have you tied a plank to your feet so you don't crawl completely up his bum?
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Out of interest why don't you have similar praise for Dyche?
You could point to numerous Burnley players and say they've improved under Dyche, yet you're not as quick to do that for some reason...
You could point to numerous Burnley players and say they've improved under Dyche, yet you're not as quick to do that for some reason...
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Think it's called an agenda, Sidney. Tiresome, repetitive and sadly,at times, insulting.Sidney1st wrote:Out of interest why don't you have similar praise for Dyche?
You could point to numerous Burnley players and say they've improved under Dyche, yet you're not as quick to do that for some reason...
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I have praised Dyche though, you're choosing to ignore it....Sidney1st wrote:Out of interest why don't you have similar praise for Dyche?
You could point to numerous Burnley players and say they've improved under Dyche, yet you're not as quick to do that for some reason...
I have praised him numerous times this year for the transformation in style, I admitted I was wrong about him on numerous old posts of mine bumped by yourself... Keep pretending I sit here slagging Dyche off daily because I don't think I have criticised any performance this season at all. You're stuck in the past, you keep waffling about things I said 2 years ago, it's old news.
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A Jekyll and Hyde thing I think same goalkeeper but completely different performances.KRBFC wrote:So how is it different goalies if Bravo played in both games? I'm confused tbh... Are you trying to tell me Bravo is s###? if so, why do I care how good he is? I'm simply stating I thought his pass tonight was brilliant.
The lads on The Debate thought it was pass of the night, I agree, wonderful reverse ball, something not associated with goalkeepers.
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So Dyche signing players, improving some and discarding others is basically the same as Pep and you generally don't acknowledge what Dyche does.KRBFC wrote:I have praised Dyche though, you're choosing to ignore it....
I have praised him numerous times this year for the transformation in style, I admitted I was wrong about him on numerous old posts of mine bumped by yourself... Keep pretending I sit here slagging Dyche off daily because I don't think I have criticised any performance this season at all. You're stuck in the past, you keep waffling about things I said 2 years ago, it's old news.
Yeah you admitted you have been wrong about him, but you're quick enough to call players like Keane shite when they've gone despite the fact he clearly isn't.
I know you don't slag off Dyche daily, but you're very very slow at praising him.
Do you need a hand getting back out of Peps arse?
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I'm still impressed he didn't understand what I meant by that.Caernarfon_Claret wrote:A Jekyll and Hyde thing I think same goalkeeper but completely different performances.
Must be an age thing.
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Sidney1st wrote:I'm still impressed he didn't understand what I meant by that.
Must be an age thing.
I often make comments with tongue firmly in cheek (of my mouth) only to be taken seriously.
I'm of a generation which hesitates to use emojis.
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>Sane, Jesus are young players who he's developed.
That's true - he's taken the 30 million quid international striker that had 8 in 13 for Brazil and turned him into a superstar. And the unknown 46.5 million pound Shalke winger has improved to score 11 in 44 for City as opposed to his paltry 11 in 47 for Shalke.
That's true - he's taken the 30 million quid international striker that had 8 in 13 for Brazil and turned him into a superstar. And the unknown 46.5 million pound Shalke winger has improved to score 11 in 44 for City as opposed to his paltry 11 in 47 for Shalke.
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I didn't understand the relevance to the comment I made about what I thought was a great pass, then you started banging on about ''different keepers''. I still have no idea what your point was either tbh.Sidney1st wrote:I'm still impressed he didn't understand what I meant by that.
Must be an age thing.
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KRBFC wrote:I didn't understand the relevance to the comment I made about what I thought was a great pass, then you started banging on about ''different keepers''. I still have no idea what your point was either tbh.
Nevermind, I'll keep it simple for you next time.
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Sane has played 44 games for City this season? impressive. I was clearly judging Sane off his career before this season so to mix in last seasons City stats to make it seem like he hasn't improved is funny.Sproggy wrote:>Sane, Jesus are young players who he's developed.
That's true - he's taken the 30 million quid international striker that had 8 in 13 for Brazil and turned him into a superstar. And the unknown 46.5 million pound Shalke winger has improved to score 11 in 44 for City as opposed to his paltry 11 in 47 for Shalke.
Sane this year actually has 9 goals and 11 assists in 23 starts. The greatest return of his career, quite clearly improved on the 11 in 47 for Schalke you mention and judging by your figures he only got 2 goals last year for City. Not improved???? HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA nowt like talking out of your arse and mixing up stats to prove a stupid point.
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Celtic fans are always their loudest when they're playing some unworthy opposition like Clyde or Stenhousemuir. It's the same at Man U. It's all about the so-called "glory".
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What the **** are you on about?ontario claret wrote:Celtic fans are always their loudest when they're playing some unworthy opposition like Clyde or Stenhousemuir. It's the same at Man U. It's all about the so-called "glory".
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A-ha. Another Hoops fan.