Nkoudou

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:20 pm

Showed enough in his brief spell to convince me that he should be starting, really like the look of this lad.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:24 pm

Looked direct, tricky and pacey. On that alone he needs to be in next week.

Iloveyoubrady · Post by **Iloveyoubrady** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:24 pm

Get him out left and arfield behind Vokes.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:27 pm

Iloveyoubrady wrote:Get him out left and arfield behind Vokes.

If Arfield is fit, I’d prefer him behind Ashley (if Wood not fit)
As much as I like Sam, Barnes is the better lone striker

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:29 pm

Iloveyoubrady wrote:Get him out left and arfield behind Vokes.

I'd have him out on the right with JBG on the left, agree with Scotty off Vokesy though.

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:31 pm

He will soon fall out of favour if he tries flicks and tricks instead of the easy pass and loses the ball.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:31 pm

Scott Arfield is not the answer in cm

Iloveyoubrady · Post by **Iloveyoubrady** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:32 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:Scott Arfield is not the answer in cm

But CM is very very different from the second striker. As Hendrick has shown us

CHEWBACCA · Post by **CHEWBACCA** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:36 pm

Looked very good to me!

4:20 · Post by **4:20** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:19 pm

Start him next week. He's hungry.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:17 pm

Are we allowed positive threads?

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:33 pm

Loved his first action when he'd just come on.

Chased back, nicked the ball of one of their men, then does a Cruyff turn to beat a man but is fouled.

He looks well useful.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:45 pm

First Burnley player to perform a step over since a young Nathan Dyer made his debut. GK looked to have a super first touch, exciting but won't be allowed to stray from the rigid framework and probably won't start many games because he's too different. Dyche chose to play a striker on the wing ahead of him which kind of says it all.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:07 pm

He only trained with the team a few times. I’m sure he’s at the forefront of SDs mind after that showing, very positive and perhaps what we’ve been lacking.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:09 pm

KRBFC wrote:First Burnley player to perform a step over since a young Nathan Dyer made his debut. GK looked to have a super first touch, exciting but won't be allowed to stray from the rigid framework and probably won't start many games because he's too different. Dyche chose to play a striker on the wing ahead of him which kind of says it all.

By "says it all", I presume you mean that it says he hasn't been at the club a week yet and is way below speed on the defensive framework?

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:11 pm

Like somebody else said on the other thread if we can get lennon he can play on one wing GK can play on the other and JBG can play behind striker he might get a few more goals aswell

basil6345789 · Post by **basil6345789** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:15 pm

Dyche's overview is correct plus injuries came thick and fast.
A win and all will be well again.

turfytopper · Post by **turfytopper** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:33 pm

Diesel wrote:I'd have him out on the right with JBG on the left, agree with Scotty off Vokesy though.

I cannot believe JBG cannot either have a go at whipping a cross in on his right foot or having a go on the left...he's so predicable.

Earlier in the season he did take on a defender round the outside (West Ham) his cross with his right was inch perfect for Wood's equaliser. But he cannot attack space behind a defender (never takes one on 1 v 1) and always v=cuts inside onto his left ---so predictable for a defender

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:37 pm

Iloveyoubrady wrote:Get him out left and arfield behind Vokes.

Sat behind in the dug out?

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:42 pm

turfytopper wrote:I cannot believe JBG cannot either have a go at whipping a cross in on his right foot or having a go on the left...he's so predicable.

Earlier in the season he did take on a defender round the outside (West Ham) his cross with his right was inch perfect for Wood's equaliser. But he cannot attack space behind a defender (never takes one on 1 v 1) and always v=cuts inside onto his left ---so predictable for a defender

One of the dangerous bits of play we have around the box is the cross from Guddy when he's cut in on his left foot.

ClaretAL · Post by **ClaretAL** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:54 am

He does look hungry, the only problem I had with him is he may be trying to impress to much as when he lost the ball, he was chasing it to the point of being on the wrong side of the pitch and Defore and Cork having to go out wide to cover him. But he's only been with us a few days, I'm sure he will be told regarding our rigid framework.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:12 am

Some great touches for sure, but sometimes guilty of holding on to the ball a little too long. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt though and put it down to an eagerness to impress rather than a selfish streak like all show ponies have.

Glad he's here and i'd like to see more of him. Whist I want him to "get" us, I don't want the 'attacking with flair and pace' element drilled out of him on the training ground.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:24 am

Reecey1987 wrote:Like somebody else said on the other thread if we can get lennon he can play on one wing GK can play on the other and JBG can play behind striker he might get a few more goals aswell

Are we likely to get Lennon?

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:39 am

I don't think we'll get Lennon. Especially this window. Im guessing thats why we went for Nkoudou.

Roosterbooster · Post by **Roosterbooster** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:57 am

turfytopper wrote:I cannot believe JBG cannot either have a go at whipping a cross in on his right foot or having a go on the left...he's so predicable

I’m about 97.345% certain that JBG has more assists for us with his right than his left foot

But I’d certainly play him ahead of Hendrick in that 2nd striker role, especially as we now have another winger option. Having said that, I’d also play Arfield, Defour, Barnes, Walters, Wells, Brady, CT, Rocky, one man and his dog ahead of Hendrick in that position

Roosterbooster · Post by **Roosterbooster** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:58 am

ClaretAL wrote:He does look hungry, the only problem I had with him is he may be trying to impress to much as when he lost the ball, he was chasing it to the point of being on the wrong side of the pitch and Defore and Cork having to go out wide to cover him. But he's only been with us a few days, I'm sure he will be told regarding our rigid framework.

That’s total football!

Roosterbooster · Post by **Roosterbooster** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:59 am

FactualFrank wrote:I don't think we'll get Lennon. Especially this window. Im guessing thats why we went for Nkoudou.

I hear Walcott could go to Everton. Lennon didn’t start yesterday. That potentially puts him back on our radar

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:00 am

We need to make that central midfield more solid Westwood and Cork with Defour playing the more advanced role

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:06 am

Brother in law is a Spurs fan that mentioned an interview he had a while ago - saying that Pochetino was ahouting at him whenver he took on a couple of players and put a ball in at Spurs training then he realised it was because he was not tracking back after it - he said how he undertood that was what he needed to do and startes getting praise when he tracked back after his runs - seems like if he's learnt that skill then we have the perfect player on our hands for what we need.

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:10 pm

A good opening 5 minutes, but appeared to be lightweight and trying to hard to impress thereafter. I hope he gets the game time though as he does offer something different

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:48 pm

Miles better than anything we have at present that’s for sure .

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:52 pm

does he like Twix though ?

turfytopper · Post by **turfytopper** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:53 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:One of the dangerous bits of play we have around the box is the cross from Guddy when he's cut in on his left foot.

Yes.... But he always cuts inside onto his left

turfytopper · Post by **turfytopper** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:55 pm

Roosterbooster wrote:I’m about 97.345% certain that JBG has more assists for us with his right than his left foot

ARE YOU SURE?

But I’d certainly play him ahead of Hendrick in that 2nd striker role, especially as we now have another winger option. Having said that, I’d also play Arfield, Defour, Barnes, Walters, Wells, Brady, CT, Rocky, one man and his dog ahead of Hendrick in that position

Rocky? You serious?

More a defensive midfielder.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:14 pm

JBG is our best goal creator in many a season.
If Nkoudou is half as good at creating he will do.

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:49 pm

Arfield has impressed me when he's played in a free role. I think it's his best position.

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:59 pm

burnley007 wrote:Arfield has impressed me when he's played in a free role. I think it's his best position.

How is a free role a position? Isn't it more like an non-position?

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:17 pm

chekhov wrote:How is a free role a position? Isn't it more like an non-position?

Iloveyoubrady · Post by **Iloveyoubrady** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:47 pm

chekhov wrote:How is a free role a position? Isn't it more like an non-position?

He quite obviously means that arfield has played well in the position which Hendrick is currently trying to play - which is true.

It could well be a good rest/ competition for Hendrick to play arfield in the Cam with N’Koudou and JBG wide. Eventually, I’d like to see us sign a winger, could be N’Koudou if he does well to then play JBG in the cam with Brady and someone else wide. JBG would do a great job there with his pace, skill and creativity.
An in form front 4 of

N’Koudou JBG Brady
—————-Wood

That would score plenty of goals, especially with Defour just behind.

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:52 pm

When Wood returns could SD return to 442 with Wood Vokes feeding of the plentiful supply from the wings ? Though I feel that would leave mid a little thin on “steel”

Iloveyoubrady · Post by **Iloveyoubrady** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:12 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:When Wood returns could SD return to 442 with Wood Vokes feeding of the plentiful supply from the wings ? Though I feel that would leave mid a little thin on “steel”

Yes. That could work but true about the midfield. I’d almost think of going like this to have enough in midfield and to rest the tires cork.

Pope
Lowton Tarks Mee Taylor
JBG Hendrick Defour N’Koudou
Vokes/Wells Wood

I can see that doing quite well. You’d think if you whip a few balls into the box Vokes and Wood would get on the end of a few.

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:06 am

burnley007 wrote:

A role is job you're given. A position is a location (on a football pitch). Two entirely different things. Call me pedantic but I'm sticking to my point!

Putneyclaret · Post by **Putneyclaret** » Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:02 am

Looked more effective when he stayed out wide when attacking. Over-complicated things and was easily dispossessed when he came inside; overall promising.

Bfcboyo · Post by **Bfcboyo** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:09 am

Looked very confident and dangerous when he came on yesterday. Quick turn of pace and some nice skill. Would like to see him start.

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:33 am

Newcastle away, how about...

Pope
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Taylor
Gudmundsson Cork Defour Nkoudou
Arfield
Barnes

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:37 am

... or how about swapping Arfield for JBG and bringing in Lennon (assuming he signs).

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:40 am

scouseclaret wrote:... or how about swapping Arfield for JBG and bringing in Lennon (assuming he signs).

No problem with that at all...anything to improve our final third creativity. The Toon army are there for the taking.

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:21 pm

HiroshimaClaret wrote:Newcastle away, how about...

Pope
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Taylor
Gudmundsson Cork Defour Nkoudou
Arfield
Barnes

I think for the rest of the season we should play. 4-4-1-1

----------------- Pope------------------
Lowton -- Tarkowski -- Mee -- Taylor
Lennon -- Cork -- Defour -- Nkoudou
------------Gudmundsson------------
-----------------Barnes-----------------(Wood when fit)

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:29 pm

HiroshimaClaret wrote:Newcastle away, how about...

Pope
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Taylor
Gudmundsson Cork Defour Nkoudou
Arfield
Barnes

What's Hendick done wrong to get dropped?
He had a good game yesterday. You can't drop someone who did well yesterday, we played very well and were just unlucky.
People walked off the game yesterday happy with the performance, so why are any changes needed?

andyh · Post by **andyh** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:33 pm

MACCA wrote:What's Hendick done wrong to get dropped?
He had a good game yesterday. You can't drop someone who did well yesterday, we played very well and were just unlucky.
People walked off the game yesterday happy with the performance, so why are any changes needed?

I assume this is sarcastic given your ratings thread

MACCA wrote:Hedrick 4 getting better, but cannot think of 1 moment of good play ( what I couldn't have done ) either defensively or in the final 3rd. Everything he did seemed the wrong option or badly executed