Walters

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:52 pm

Does he make a good cuppa like Steven Reid? If he can't get 5 minutes off the bench when we're that bad (and missing 2 wide players and Wood) then what was the point of bringing him in?

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:02 pm

Dyche refused to rule out a loan move for Jon Walters to #safc, or indeed anywhere. 'Not at the moment' in terms of an immediate move but said 'we'll see' when asked about later in the window . Also working on a couple of incomings, but expects they could drag on for most of the window

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:04 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:Dyche refused to rule out a loan move for Jon Walters to #safc, or indeed anywhere. 'Not at the moment' in terms of an immediate move but said 'we'll see' when asked about later in the window . Also working on a couple of incomings, but expects they could drag on for most of the window

Walcott to Everton, Lennon to Burnley.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:06 pm

Can he play in number 10 role ?

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:13 pm

It looked a good signing to me at the time but because of his injury I suppose we'll never know. It's looking like a bit of a waste of time and I'm sure he's earned a few bob out of the club.

claretcarrot93 · Post by **claretcarrot93** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:15 pm

File with juke,sordell,vossen,Hennings and wells

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:17 pm

I dont agree with wells being in there . He never gets enough minutes to even judge him

claretcarrot93 · Post by **claretcarrot93** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:18 pm

It’s nearly Feb now.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:20 pm

And how many minutes has he actually played ?

claretcarrot93 · Post by **claretcarrot93** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:22 pm

If he was that good he would have played more

SkiptonClaret · Post by **SkiptonClaret** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:23 pm

It was a Bertie Big Balls signing for the dressing room, a la Stephen Reid. Surely we’re not suggesting the big, old lad was signed to play games ? How old is he ? It’s not worked and it won’t work, shift him on.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:43 pm

He is on MotD2 extra tomorrow - text/tweet in if you want answers from him

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:53 pm

It would be naive to start the season with only 11 professionals on our books but incredibly stupid and ignorant of the rules to think that you could play all of your 25 man squad at the start of every game.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:08 pm

KRBFC wrote:Walcott to Everton, Lennon to Burnley.

Nkoudou on the left, Lennon on the right could put JBG in the hole but our FBs better expect more work.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:10 pm

He was only ever brought in as an experienced player in case our striking options didn’t work - as it happens they’ve worked out OK albeit with an injury to Wood.

He came here knowing that, and if he moves I wish him well and thanks him for his input and effort. If he stays, then he’s good to have around IMO, to offer wise words when needed.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:13 pm

Funnily enough I'd have thought this might be when we started throwing Walters in. Today was the day I had down for a bit of a switch around; giving a few regulars a break while getting some hunger for games on the field. Sure injuries have tried our hands a little, but still the lack of time for Walters today smacks of the end of his time here is expected shortly.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:41 pm

Diesel wrote:It would be naive to start the season with only 11 professionals on our books but incredibly stupid and ignorant of the rules to think that you could play all of your 25 man squad at the start of every game.

But at what point will he be used? Do all 5 other strikers have to get injured for him to get a sniff? if he's deemed not good enough for a sub appearance when we're that bad and losing then what was the point?

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:09 pm

If you're 6th choice and can't even get on for the last 5-10 minutes in a go for broke style game to nick a goal, I think your time is up to be honest.
It's not as though any of the crop in front of you bar Ashley Barnes at a push has done anything of note this season, and none of them had done anything at all today.

I think he'll be off before January is out.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:17 pm

"It's not as though any of the crop in front of you bar Ashley Barnes at a push has done anything of note this season"

Yet somehow, we're still 7th in the Premier League!

Baffling!

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:23 pm

The injury aside he would have been decent back up for us,but i guess we've moved on from that and we are now entitled to demand better quality back up.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:16 pm

fidelcastro wrote:"It's not as though any of the crop in front of you bar Ashley Barnes at a push has done anything of note this season"

Yet somehow, we're still 7th in the Premier League!

Baffling!

With a negative goal difference and one of the lowest goal scoring records in the league,we seem to have to score the opening goal to give ourselves a chance of 3 points,fortunately the back 5 in the main have performed heroics,but we have to be more pro-active especially against bottom half teams,Wayne Hennessey had one save of note in 90 minutes,the one plus point was Nkoudou getting an introduction,hopefully he can give us another demension because we desperately need a lift.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:24 pm

We were discussing this today and came to the conclusion that he's still not fully fit. He's been on the bench for a few games now and only come on once. If that's the case it's a real pity because he's a damn good player.

mill hill claret · Post by **mill hill claret** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:27 am

Fantastic player ..hope we keep him

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:07 am

Can only assume he must be still injured otherwise he must have been played at some stage today. Which begs the question as to why he was on the bench.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:59 am

fidelcastro wrote:"It's not as though any of the crop in front of you bar Ashley Barnes at a push has done anything of note this season"

Yet somehow, we're still 7th in the Premier League!

Baffling!

Not really, look at our clean sheets pal.
It's down to great the framework and organisation whilst the back 5 have been excellent.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:32 am

It’s not helped him getting injured and it’s always a risk buying older players, what’s more baffling is why we wasted 5 million on buying an injured Wells .

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:40 pm

Bit unfair filing both Walters and wells in with those players mentioned above.

Walters has been, and still is I’m sure, a very good player with plenty to offer a club like burnley.

May be a while before we see him regularly because I think he’s not quite fit, but with injuries and suspensions to come, a fully fit Walters is an absolute asset. Risking him now would be folly.

He could actually be the link between the midfield and the forward player (s) that quite a lot of people (me included) think we need.

I for one hope Walters is going nowhere.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:44 pm

joey13 wrote:It’s not helped him getting injured and it’s always a risk buying older players, what’s more baffling is why we wasted 5 million on buying an injured Wells .

Wasted?

Ok. I’ll play. How has this fee been wasted?

Seems to me like a great bit of business. Just getting fit and now getting minutes, won’t be long before his impact is felt.

And if it doesn’t quite work out for him and us, he will move elsewhere for a fee. £5m is nothing. Not anymore.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:45 pm

You're not alone wanting him to stay and become a feature, but I do see the sense of a short loan if he's fit enough. He has missed a lot and may need game time to get up to speed.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:52 pm

elwaclaret wrote:You're not alone wanting him to stay and become a feature, but I do see the sense of a short loan if he's fit enough. He has missed a lot and may need game time to get up to speed.

A short loan ? The guys 34 years of age we should be getting shut if the chance comes

mickleoverclaret · Post by **mickleoverclaret** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:08 pm

bobinho wrote:Wasted?

Ok. I’ll play. How has this fee been wasted?

Seems to me like a great bit of business. Just getting fit and now getting minutes, won’t be long before his impact is felt.

And if it doesn’t quite work out for him and us, he will move elsewhere for a fee. £5m is nothing. Not anymore.

It's not hard to see why someone might think it was money wasted given he's played about half an hour and not scored.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:09 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:A short loan ? The guys 34 years of age we should be getting shut if the chance comes

Absolute nonsense. Despite his injury he has never been injury prone, a 16 year old could have had that happen on their debut. Walters brings top end experience, and knows the game inside out. I can tell you more than one Stoke fan I've spoken to believe letting Walters leave ultimately may well be what cost Hughes his job. He is almost seen as a Peter Reid type down there.... constantly encouraging, while not fast often in the right place at the right time and pops up with important goals. He's a real pro and could well have another 3 or 4 years playing at the top.

Appearently he's still not yet 100%. I'm not convinced that had he been up to speed, he would have made a hell of a difference at Palace.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:11 pm

Even the manager hinted yesterday that if we can get our targets in then walters would be allowed to leave . If walters wasnt fit then why was he on the bench

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:17 pm

'another 3 or 4 years playing at the top'

One for the future then!

IWOODLOVETT · Post by **IWOODLOVETT** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:19 pm

elwaclaret wrote:Absolute nonsense. I can tell you more than one Stoke fan I've spoken to believe letting Walters leave ultimately may well be what cost Hughes his job.

Sky panel agreed to a man yesterday that letting Walters go was a big, big mistake by Hughes

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:29 pm

bobinho wrote:Wasted?

Ok. I’ll play. How has this fee been wasted?

Seems to me like a great bit of business. Just getting fit and now getting minutes, won’t be long before his impact is felt.

And if it doesn’t quite work out for him and us, he will move elsewhere for a fee. £5m is nothing. Not anymore.

Buying an injured player is never a good idea , he would never have played another game for Huddersfield , so could have got him for 2 million in this window.
Cost the club 3 million for about 30 minutes , I call that wasted .

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:30 pm

IWOODLOVETT wrote:Sky panel agreed to a man yesterday that letting Walters go was a big, big mistake by Hughes

Havn't seen that but not surprised, I think for anyone who watches Stoke more than I it was pretty obvious very early on he'd dropped a pretty major clanger letting him come to us. At the time they expected a BIG signing to come in to fill his boots.... which was obviously harder to acheive than they believed.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:40 pm

joey13 wrote:Buying an injured player is never a good idea , he would never have played another game for Huddersfield , so could have got him for 2 million in this window.
Cost the club 3 million for about 30 minutes , I call that wasted .

Again were you a fly on the wall.... how do you know Wells did not have other offers on the table last window? If SD decided having spoke to the medical team that Wells would eventually be A1 with no further potential issues - which no doubt he did SD will have done the maths.... 6 months wages againstgetting a fully fit player of that calibre. Do you KNOW that Wells wont break through in the second half of the season and go on to be sold for £30+ million in 18 months time? No nor do I.

SD makes mistakes like we all do, but if he's not done enough to warrant a little more belief than that, I'm quite frankly wondering what Burnley Football Club you have been watching over the years.

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:43 pm

elwaclaret wrote:Again were you a fly on the wall.... how do you know Wells did not have other offers on the table last window?

Wells would definitely have had offers but I'd wager we were the only Premier league one.

JohnDearyMe · Post by **JohnDearyMe** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:44 pm

Did Walters play a game for Ireland after going off injured against Blackburn? Or am i getting the order mixed up?

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:50 pm

For those who've been around a while, one word.... Blake. He looked a complete carthorse when we first signed him (injured).... even Ternant made the "concrete boots" comment he looked so bad. That didn't work out too badly

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:28 pm

elwaclaret wrote:Again were you a fly on the wall.... how do you know Wells did not have other offers on the table last window? If SD decided having spoke to the medical team that Wells would eventually be A1 with no further potential issues - which no doubt he did SD will have done the maths.... 6 months wages againstgetting a fully fit player of that calibre. Do you KNOW that Wells wont break through in the second half of the season and go on to be sold for £30+ million in 18 months time? No nor do I.

SD makes mistakes like we all do, but if he's not done enough to warrant a little more belief than that, I'm quite frankly wondering what Burnley Football Club you have been watching over the years.

It’s a messageboard, don’t be so bloody precious
I know Wells didn’t have any other offers on the table , Huddersfield’s chairman said so .
I also know Wells won’t be sold for 30 million plus in 18 months time

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:30 pm

KefkaClaret wrote:Wells would definitely have had offers but I'd wager we were the only Premier league one.

He didn’t have any other offers , apart from the one from Huddersfield

Giftonsnoidea · Post by **Giftonsnoidea** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:11 pm

Waste of a wage I'm afraid, we have enough slow forwards already.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:16 pm

Wells and Walters will probably be earning about 30 grand between them. Would have been much better paying that to one good striker who actually improved us.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:04 pm

joey13 wrote:Buying an injured player is never a good idea , he would never have played another game for Huddersfield , so could have got him for 2 million in this window.
Cost the club 3 million for about 30 minutes , I call that wasted .

If we have done our due diligence, and i'm sure we did, then there is zero risk in buying a player with an injury. Players don't go for less money in the January window, they go for more, and in Nahki's case, we'd now be buying an injury free player, who still wouldn't be ready to play for us as he wouldn't have been with us long enough to be 'Dyche fit', and neither would he be settled in the squad like he is now.

He's cost us nothing yet. He's just another viable option from the bench, until SD says otherwise. I think this could work out just fine if he nicks a goal soon.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:09 pm

joey13 wrote:It’s a messageboard, don’t be so bloody precious
I know Wells didn’t have any other offers on the table , Huddersfield’s chairman said so .
I also know Wells won’t be sold for 30 million plus in 18 months time

Oh well in that case I bow to your vastly superior knowledge Billy Big Balls

k90bfc · Post by **k90bfc** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:42 pm

Dont forget,get real,We are missing Chris Wood,Injured,can happen anytime any player,RE,Robbie Brady,the lads coming in give their all,if these two were still in the line up,We would be a very different Burnley,give Sean a chance whats being thrown at him.UTC.

Giftonsnoidea · Post by **Giftonsnoidea** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:07 pm

We should have been looking at younger and faster players than Jon Walters, bit of an odd signing to say the least. Hopefully the Irish obsession will end somewhere.

We are desperate for pace, a good first choice striker and a right winger still even though Gudmundson has been ok on the right.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:21 pm

're Irish obsession are we still interested in James McLean?