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Aaron Lennon no thanks
I don't get the obsession some fans have with Aaron Lennon.Everton want Walcott and some people assume we want Lennon.
He has pace but little end product and an overhyped rep being ex Spurs.
Why do we not get Marc Pugh back he's developed into a useful player in the Prem
He has pace but little end product and an overhyped rep being ex Spurs.
Why do we not get Marc Pugh back he's developed into a useful player in the Prem
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Lennon would be a great addition.
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Its gives us options we haven't got.
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Fair enough you don't rate Lennon, I can see the arguments.
Jesus christ, difficult to put into words what I think of that suggestion.
Woodleyclaret wrote: Why do we not get Marc Pugh back he's developed into a useful player in the Prem
Jesus christ, difficult to put into words what I think of that suggestion.
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If we do sign him I'd love to be proven wrong but I've got zero enthusiasm about us signing Aaron Lennon. Can't see him working well in our team, don't think he's got enough to his game. I can see the appeal because we lack a bit of pace, but my impression is that he's pace and little else. Delighted to be wrong on this but I reckon he'd be a mixture of anonymous and frustrating in our side.
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He’d be a great signing.
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I'd like to see him here for several reasons.
Competition for places.
Pace.
An out ball
Also could free up a wifmde player to a play number 10 role
Bags of experience in this league
Competition for places.
Pace.
An out ball
Also could free up a wifmde player to a play number 10 role
Bags of experience in this league
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If Dyche wants him, that's fine by me. Its easy to see what the logic of the signing is and when Dyche thinks he could bring us which would help elevate us to the next level.
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Well this just shows how far we have come .great board and a great manager. GREAT clubWoodleyclaret wrote:I don't get the obsession some fans have with Aaron Lennon.Everton want Walcott and some people assume we want Lennon.
He has pace but little end product and an overhyped rep being ex Spurs.
Why do we not get Marc Pugh back he's developed into a useful player in the Prem
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https://www.premierleague.com/players/2 ... nnon/stats" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Stats are pretty average really, for the money hes going to be on we should be looking elsewhere.
Stats are pretty average really, for the money hes going to be on we should be looking elsewhere.
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Spurs got the best of him...to late in the day now IMO.
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30 years old, 250+ Prem appearances, pace to burn, loads of experience, fits the framework of the side.
People turning their nose up. Unbelievable.
People turning their nose up. Unbelievable.
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£55k a week and his stats aren't what you'd call stellar considering that amount of appearances.
Pace to burn, great but we've had that before and if his end product isn't much better than what we've got why bother?
Pace to burn, great but we've had that before and if his end product isn't much better than what we've got why bother?
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You are living in a different world to me if you are comparing Pugh with Lennon.Woodleyclaret wrote:I don't get the obsession some fans have with Aaron Lennon.Everton want Walcott and some people assume we want Lennon.
He has pace but little end product and an overhyped rep being ex Spurs.
Why do we not get Marc Pugh back he's developed into a useful player in the Prem
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No Tony I just watch all sides and ignore the nonsense talked by the press .Marc Pugh have provided many assists for Bournemouth and would be a good squad player.Good replacement for Scott Arfield of he decides to leave.Aaron Lennon is inconsistent in his performances and is not what we need.Andre Gray had pace to burn but I for one was pleased when we sold him.
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So you're now comparing him with Andre Gray!
Who next, Lloyd Honeyghan?
Who next, Lloyd Honeyghan?
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It's the inconsistencies in his play is the comparison.The ability to run fast without outcome or control is not a particular asset in a footballer.
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Which stats are you specifically referring to? There'll be other PL wingers with comparable stats that I'd have here in a heartbeat.Sidney1st wrote:https://www.premierleague.com/players/2 ... nnon/stats
Stats are pretty average really, for the money hes going to be on we should be looking elsewhere.
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370 Premier league appearances, 21 England caps and only 30 years old tends to suggest you are talking ********.Woodleyclaret wrote:It's the inconsistencies in his play is the comparison.The ability to run fast without outcome or control is not a particular asset in a footballer.
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Lennon would be a great signing if he's anything like the player he used to be, I haven't seen him do much in a while so I don't know how his body's coping and if he's still capable but you would hope the club would have an idea.
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Mark Pugh, Bournemouth squad player, jesus good job your not the manager.
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Overall, he's not the stellar player people on here are making him out to be.taio wrote:Which stats are you specifically referring to? There'll be other PL wingers with comparable stats that I'd have here in a heartbeat.
He's ok, but not really head and shoulders above many over his career.
He's got pace, great, but he's just alright after that.
He might need to kick start his career again, but he'd easily be our highest paid player and I can't see what would justify that.
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Who?Sidney1st wrote:Overall, he's not the stellar player people on here are making him out to be.
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He's been mentioned a few times in the past and there's always a number of people who get overly excited about signing him and believe he's an excellent player when his stats would suggest he's ok but that's about it.Diesel wrote:Who?
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Which stats though because it seems that's what you were using to reach your conclusion?Sidney1st wrote:He's been mentioned a few times in the past and there's always a number of people who get overly excited about signing him and believe he's an excellent player when his stats would suggest he's ok but that's about it.
Would also suggest he wouldn't be earning £55k a week here.
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His pace is what we lack.
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You could always have a look on the link I provided at his overall PL stats, it might help this conversation...taio wrote:Which stats though because it seems that's what you were using to reach your conclusion?
Would also suggest he wouldn't be earning £55k a week here.
They're the only stats I've posted and if you look his pass completion rate and assist rates aren't that high.
He's on £55k a week at Everton it's rumoured so we'd have to pay either all or a big wedge of those wages and I'd struggle to see why he's worth that money as it stands.
I have the same arguments on here about Defoe when people get all excited about him...
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Sidney1st wrote:He's been mentioned a few times in the past and there's always a number of people who get overly excited about signing him and believe he's an excellent player when his stats would suggest he's ok but that's about it.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.urba ... a&=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Not seen him been described as this.
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Try this spellingDiesel wrote:https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.urba ... a&=true
Not seen him been described as this.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=stellar" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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There are a range of stats so I was wondering which ones you were using to form your view. I can't see pass completion rate on the stats you posted but could be overlooking. But in any case there are more important ones for this type of winger. Anyhow his key stats will be comparable with other players that we'd never be able to sign but, if we could, would be very good signings. You are looking at his stats in meaningless isolation.Sidney1st wrote:
You could always have a look on the link I provided at his overall PL stats, it might help this conversation...
They're the only stats I've posted and if you look his pass completion rate and assist rates aren't that high.
He's on £55k a week at Everton it's rumoured so we'd have to pay either all or a big wedge of those wages and I'd struggle to see why he's worth that money as it stands.
I have the same arguments on here about Defoe when people get all excited about him...
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Okay, I've not seen anyone quote this:Sidney1st wrote:Try this spelling
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=stellar" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Dude, that Lennon is ******* stellar.
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I'm not arrogant enough to believe if he was tearing up trees he'd be a realistic target for us. I have enough faith in our backroom team to get him doing the things that made the big clubs want him when it came out he was available from Spurs.
Not surprised by the names popping up against the move, file under some fans would turn their noses up at Bale because of his age and lack of recent game time. Last time I looked we were still Burnley.... and Stan thought we expected to be Barcelona THEN God hepl him if he was here now!
Not surprised by the names popping up against the move, file under some fans would turn their noses up at Bale because of his age and lack of recent game time. Last time I looked we were still Burnley.... and Stan thought we expected to be Barcelona THEN God hepl him if he was here now!
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Ah so you're being pedantic and want to see use of the actual word stellar?Diesel wrote:Okay, I've not seen anyone quote this:
Dude, that Lennon is ******* stellar.
My bad, I didn't think you'd want the actual word.
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My error ref passes.taio wrote:There are a range of stats so I was wondering which ones you were using to form your view. I can't see pass completion rate on the stats you posted but could be overlooking. But in any case there are more important ones for this type of winger. Anyhow his key stats will be comparable with other players that we'd never be able to sign but, if we could, would be very good signings. You are looking at his stats in meaningless isolation.
Look at cross completion of 24% out of 925.
So he pings a lot of crosses but they don't get to their intended target that often over the course of a season.
How is he going to be an improvement on someone like Joey B or a fit Brady?
It would've been easier to keep Boyd if we wanted a runner.
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24% is decent enough. Random comparison on this particular stat...David Silva 27%, Antonio Valencia 26%, Victor Moses 20%, Eden Hazard 18%. As are his other key stats for a winger eg goals and assists.Sidney1st wrote:My error ref passes.
Look at cross completion of 24% out of 925.
So he pings a lot of crosses but they don't get to their intended target that often over the course of a season.
How is he going to be an improvement on someone like Joey B or a fit Brady?
It would've been easier to keep Boyd if we wanted a runner.
Ox 21%Sidney1st wrote:Well that was a great game to watch.
Some really good football on show and Ox could well be an ideal replacement for Coutinho.
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His percentage is over a longer period, plus Hazard only turns up for half a season if he's getting on with the manager .
I just personally don't think he's worth signing, I'd rather go out and find someone younger and hungrier to succeed who can develop with the club.
I just personally don't think he's worth signing, I'd rather go out and find someone younger and hungrier to succeed who can develop with the club.
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Ox hasn't played much either.
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Irrelevant. If anything I would expect stats to reduce over a long period. You do understand how percentages work dont you?Sidney1st wrote:His percentage is over a longer period, plus Hazard only turns up for half a season if he's getting on with the manager .
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Or his intended target gets beaten to the ball?Sidney1st wrote:My error ref passes.
Look at cross completion of 24% out of 925.
So he pings a lot of crosses but they don't get to their intended target that often over the course of a season.
How is he going to be an improvement on someone like Joey B or a fit Brady?
It would've been easier to keep Boyd if we wanted a runner.
these stats mean very little.
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Yes thanks.taio wrote:Irrelevant. If anything I would expect stats to reduce over a long period. You do understand how percentages work dont you?
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On this forum they'd mean everything if his crosses weren't getting to the strikers.boatshed bill wrote:Or his intended target gets beaten to the ball?
these stats mean very little.
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I think he would be a good edition to the squad. I also think he would not only benefit from our tight knit squad but a Dyche arm round the shoulder could be just what's required to get him playing well.
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Thought it was worth checking because just this week someone on here was stuggling to understand basic figures on a political thread from what I can recall seeing.Sidney1st wrote:Yes thanks.
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Maybe, maybe not but someone else broke that one down and took it to pieces quite well from what I recall.taio wrote:Thought it was worth checking because just this week someone on here was stuggling to understand basic figures on a political thread from what I can recall seeing.
Like I said, Lennon isn't as good as people seem to think he is and they have the same issue with Defoe.
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You mean you don't THINK he's as good as some people think he is. I havent really seen anyone say he would be a 'stellar' signing, just that he could be a very good and different option for us. You hardly supported your view well with your attempt at analysing his stats. As for as Defoe, he's the 7th highest PL goal scorer of all time, so I'll say no more on that.Sidney1st wrote:Maybe, maybe not but someone else broke that one down and took it to pieces quite well from what I recall.
Like I said, Lennon isn't as good as people seem to think he is and they have the same issue with Defoe.
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Ah another who wants the word stellar....
Yeah fine, it's my opinion and I don't think he's all that.
Defoe has been playing in the PL for a long time now, but before Sunderland when he hit a purple patch he hit about 9 goals a season, sometimes a few more but that was it.
Strangely he was at Spurs the same time as Lennon was with his meh cross conversion percentage.
Yeah fine, it's my opinion and I don't think he's all that.
Defoe has been playing in the PL for a long time now, but before Sunderland when he hit a purple patch he hit about 9 goals a season, sometimes a few more but that was it.
Strangely he was at Spurs the same time as Lennon was with his meh cross conversion percentage.
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Your view about his cross conversion % is clueless though to be fair, as demonstratedSidney1st wrote:Ah another who wants the word stellar....
Yeah fine, it's my opinion and I don't think he's all that.
Defoe has been playing in the PL for a long time now, but before Sunderland when he hit a purple patch he hit about 9 goals a season, sometimes a few more but that was it.
Strangely he was at Spurs the same time as Lennon was with his meh cross conversion percentage.
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Sidney was struggling with percentages the other day too.
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If he was delivering consistently at Everton then there wouldn't be a link - if there's anything in this would it be a loan or a permanent deal?
We're seriously lacking pace, so for that alone he would be a great asset.
We've hit a bit of a brick wall as far as this season is concerned. A little like last season teams have worked us out and we don't look nearly as effective as we did in October/November. We need to give the opposition something different to think about. However hard we work we are predictable.
Provided we used Lennon and N'Koudou effectively we could play higher up the pitch. As has been pointed out above it would also mean Arfield or JBG could play the no. 10 role behind one of the strikers.
We have to think of different ways to be creative without Brady.
We're seriously lacking pace, so for that alone he would be a great asset.
We've hit a bit of a brick wall as far as this season is concerned. A little like last season teams have worked us out and we don't look nearly as effective as we did in October/November. We need to give the opposition something different to think about. However hard we work we are predictable.
Provided we used Lennon and N'Koudou effectively we could play higher up the pitch. As has been pointed out above it would also mean Arfield or JBG could play the no. 10 role behind one of the strikers.
We have to think of different ways to be creative without Brady.