Time for Dyche to take a few more risks?

[Mala591]

We all know that change involves risk but imo the time has come for a shake up in both the formation and lineup.

4-2-3-1 for me with both Westwood and N'Koudou in starting lineup and Defour given a more free roaming role as a deep no. 10

..........................Pope
Lowton......Tarks......Mee......Taylor
..........Westwood...........Cork
JBG..................Defour.............N'Koudou
........................Barnes

[TheFamilyCat]

He should start crossing the road without looking and making toast in the bath.

[ElectroClaret]

No.

[ClaretTony]

Defour a number 10 now - or is it just about getting Hendrick out of the side?

[UpTheBeehole]

Is this against Manchester United?

[tybfc]

Definitely.

Let's try and drop from 7th to 17th as quick as we can.

[claretburns]

We all know that change involves risk but imo the time has come for a shake up in both the formation and lineup.

4-2-3-1 for me with both Westwood and N'Koudou in starting lineup and Defour given a more free roaming role as a deep no. 10

..........................Pope
Lowton......Tarks......Mee......Taylor
..........Westwood...........Cork
JBG..................Defour.............N'Koudou
........................Barnes

So the whole shake up in formation is basically pushing the wingers 10 yards further forward? Yes, I can see how that makes sense......

[Goobs]

Defour a number 10 now - or is it just about getting Hendrick out of the side?

Pretty sure it will be about getting rid of Hendrick. He is the sole reason for our terrible season so far. As if we should be behind City. Ternant had us above them at Christmas FFS, we are going backwards. DYCHE OUT!

[mickleoverclaret]

So same formation but put Westwood in for Hendrick?

[Dyched]

You lot have got it all wrong!!

He's put Barnes in goal and Pope up top

[Mala591]

So the whole shake up in formation is basically pushing the wingers 10 yards further forward? Yes, I can see how that makes sense......

My mistake. Of course you are right, the formation remains very similar to our current set up. The proposed changes would be for SD to 'risk' moving Defour forward into a deep no. 10 role and to 'risk' starting N'Koudou instead of bringing him on for the last 20 minutes.

I just feel the time is right for SD to try something a little bit different to make us a bit less predictable and to increase our attacking threat.

[TheFamilyCat]

I agree in that I'd like to see Defour further up the field more often but not sure he could play the "number 10" role.

[Quickenthetempo]

Someone posted a video of Rouwen Hennings on FB of his lay offs in his last game. His first touch lay offs to a midfielder who then played quick direct balls to widemen breaking at pace. Looked really good play. I know we haven't got that much pace and Barnes would rather win the free kick than catch a side out but it shows lesser sides can play that way.

[Hipper]

He just has had to change something by putting Barnes on the left instead of Arfield.

In a match Defour seems to have the option to move forward then Hendrick moves back.

Unless Nkoudou knows the left side role, including helping Taylor, you are running great risks, especially with Valencia or Young (is he back yet) on United's right.

[ElectroClaret]

Being predictable's got us up to seventh.

[HiroshimaClaret]

Pre-injury Burnley were magnificent, especially away from home. In fact, post-injury Burnley also, were a matter of minutes away from one of our greatest results ever against Man Utd. Saying that, a certain degree of fatigue does seem to have crept into our displays, especially with Cork, who is SO important to the way we play (AMAZED he wasn`t rested against City). 7th is incredible but at home we really have `struggled` to play with any particular fluidity. Not sure though if United at home is a time for changes, even if they were possible, with our soon to be threadbare squad. But hey ho...

Pope
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Taylor
Cork Westwood
Gudmundsson Defour Arfield
Barnes

[houseboy]

I'm afraid I'm in the 'no risks against United camp' here. Players are tired yes. Form has dipped a bit as expected yes. Injuries haven't helped at all true. But I think against an obviously very good side like the Reds we need to be a bit 'familiar' in our game. Remember anything we get out of these games is a bonus and we've already had a bonus point against United (should have been 3) so let's just get on with the job and see what happens, we are a long way off panic time yet (probably never will get to that stage to be honest) so let's just enjoy this one. The one change I would like is to see GKN (IS he a hair straightener). We could do with a bit of pace to stir them up a bit and he can't be too shabby if he is at Spurs (albeit not getting much game time).

[Tall Paul]

Should the thread title be changed to "Time for Hendrick to be dropped"?

[BertiesBeehole]

Someone posted a video of Rouwen Hennings on FB of his lay offs in his last game. His first touch lay offs to a midfielder who then played quick direct balls to widemen breaking at pace. Looked really good play. I know we haven't got that much pace and Barnes would rather win the free kick than catch a side out but it shows lesser sides can play that way.

So you want us to quicken the tempo?

[tim_noone]

Yes...get wells started with Barnes ...

[Sutton-Claret]

Why don't we try Tarks in goal....

[Vegas Claret]

Pope
Lowton Mee Tarks Taylor
JBG Defour Cork Marney/Westwood Arfield
Barnes

I'd love to see Marney man mark Pogba

[jlup1980]

I don't think he can take a risk even if he wants to. We don't have the players available to make wholesale changes to players or formation. And Defour isn't a number 10. He wants to be able to dictate the play from deep - that's his game!

The only things I'd do is bring Lowton back in and play N'Koudou in place of Vokes so we're a bit more mobile as a front three. We could actually break with a little bit of pace if we utilise JBG, GK and Barnes.

Pope
Lowton Tarky Mee Taylor
Defour Cork
JBG Hendrick GK
Barnes

[JimmyMac'sMate]

Like to see Hendrick man mark pogba try to stop them playing then catch um on the break that's our only chance let's hope they have an off day and we play well also stop panda king we are seventh in the league repeat seventh utc

[clive40golf]

Maybe a five man midfield incorporating Westwood might be the answer. Drop Hendrick to the bench, forget the number 10 position until we can get someone to play that role effectively.

[clive40golf]

Pope
Lowton Tarky Mee Taylor
Westwood
JBG Defour Cork Gk
Barnes

[ashtonlongsider]

I suggested SD needs to take a few more risks on a previous thread after the defeat at Palace. I also indicated the game was effectively over after 21 minutes. I think Dyche's record, if I'm not mistaken of getting something after falling behind has been limited to the odd draw. He certainly hasn't won from a losing position whilst in the PL. Its no use keeping it tight when behind until it's too late to make any difference as is usually the case.

Yes, the squad might be stretched at present but I'm certainly not falling for it being tired. SD should have had the resources last week-end to more positively affect a game against a depleted Palace side. I'm sure Fergie, Mourinho, Wenger etc didn't become great manager's without taking the occasional risk. Again just my opinion.

[Bin Ont Turf]

I agree in that I'd like to see Defour further up the field more often but not sure he could play the "number 10" role.

I think deep down we all know the answer to Defour playing as a number 10.

[TVC15]

I suggested SD needs to take a few more risks on a previous thread after the defeat at Palace. I also indicated the game was effectively over after 21 minutes. I think Dyche's record, if I'm not mistaken of getting something after falling behind has been limited to the odd draw. He certainly hasn't won from a losing position whilst in the PL. Its no use keeping it tight when behind until it's too late to make any difference as is usually the case.

Yes, the squad might be stretched at present but I'm certainly not falling for it being tired. SD should have had the resources last week-end to more positively affect a game against a depleted Palace side. I'm sure Fergie, Mourinho, Wenger etc didn't become great manager's without taking the occasional risk. Again just my opinion.

I' think you will find it's more than the "odd draw"

The Palace side was no more depleted than our side. They had a full established French international on the bench. £30m Benteke up front and in Zaha one of the best players in the league whose current value is probably more than the whole of our starting eleven last weekend cost.

There has been a massive over reaction to how bad we played on Saturday. We were definitely poor in the first half but second half we had a couple of big chances and it was an even half. Over the 90 mins we had same shots on target as Palace.

This season Dyche has taken more risks - with formation and style of play.

Not sure there is a lot wrong