New Striker Anyone?

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:00 am

Is anyone else coming round to the fact that we desperately need a quality striker this window. We've done fine so far this season and I still see a top ten finish, but our inability to score is possibly costing us a place in Europe. Our reliance on 'nicking goals' has been sussed by other teams and we just can't rely on that any more. We need someone who is going to seriously worry opposition defences and we just don't have that. They seem to have sussed that if they keep it tight at the back we won't score all weekend.

vinrogue · Post by **vinrogue** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:02 am

a fit Chris Wood?

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:04 am

I wouldn't disagree with you at all, it's just that I don't think there is anyone out there, in our price bracket who could go straight into the side this season

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:05 am

We don't create any chances for forwards, so unless we get a world class striker who can create himself it's a waste of time.
Replacing Hendrick is the first thing needed for a creative player.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:05 am

Id go for dembele surely we could offer him better wages than what hes on at celtic without blowing the wage structure

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:17 am

Reecey1987 wrote:Id go for dembele surely we could offer him better wages than what hes on at celtic without blowing the wage structure

Linked by the Sottish Press according to a friend of a friend of a friend on Facebook.

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:28 am

vinrogue wrote:a fit Chris Wood?

Maybe but when will he be back and even with him fit who else have we got?

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:31 am

HiroshimaClaret wrote:Linked by the Sottish Press according to a friend of a friend of a friend on Facebook.

Sounds like he's on his way here then.

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:33 am

In the last few days, Dyche has said we are looking at a number of people. Have faith people.

Sutton-Claret · Post by **Sutton-Claret** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:38 am

HiroshimaClaret wrote:Linked by the Sottish Press according to a friend of a friend of a friend on Facebook.

We must have the same friend of a friend of a friend.....

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:45 am

I think we need more creativity from the midfield more than anything. However, a new striker certainly wouldn't go amiss.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:46 am

We're desperate for a threat in behind.

None of our strikers offer that.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:47 am

As said, it's creating chances that we're struggling with. Hopefully Lennon will help in that regard.

ClaretinMyBlood · Post by **ClaretinMyBlood** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:49 am

It's clear the one thing our squad is missing at the moment is goals,
The toughest thing will be finding somebody to provide the goals, without having to compensate our current style of play.
It would be interesting if we could bring in a high goalscoring player to fit in the No.10 role, but with how crazy the current market is, value for money is going to be difficult to find.

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:49 am

I said back in August that our forwards were no better than 'adequate'. Adequate is not good enough now. Yes, Wood came in but is no longer available and despite our affection for Vokes and Barnes we need better. So, to answer your somewhat rhetorical question, a resounding yes from me.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:54 am

Think we could do with an upgrade on Vokes.

SkiptonClaret · Post by **SkiptonClaret** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:56 am

Absolutely we need to improve on Vokes and Barnes (and Wells ?) but the recent record in signing strikers is not great, certainly more misses than hits. Dembele is an interesting link but I can’t see it to be honest.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:04 am

If we split the team into three sections; defence, midfield and attack, then you can say that yes, we've got a PL quality defence and a PL quality midfield, but our attack is Championship at best.

We've spent a lot of money on that midfield: £8m on Defour, £10m on Hendrick, £10m on Cork, £3m on Gudmundsson and £13m on Brady (if he was fit).

They're currently trying to supply a £200k striker who would look out of place in a lower league team. The alternative is to bring in our other couple of hundred K striker, or the injured League One player we spent £5m on.

The spend ratio between midfield and attack is so disproportionate.

What's the point in spending £45m on a midfield if they're supplying a £200k striker? It's like Lewis Hamilton lining up on the grid in a Mazda Demio.

There are only 2 PL teams who've scored fewer than us all season.

We should break the bank to get a proper striker in, one who does the defence and midfield justice.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:06 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:If we split the team into three sections; defence, midfield and attack, then you can say that yes, we've got a PL quality defence and a PL quality midfield, but our attack is Championship at best.

We've spent a lot of money on that midfield: £8m on Defour, £10m on Hendrick, £10m on Cork, £3m on Gudmundsson and £13m on Brady (if he was fit).

They're currently trying to supply a £200k striker who would look out of place in a lower league team. The alternative is to bring in our other couple of hundred K striker, or the injured League One player we spent £5m on.

The spend ratio between midfield and attack is so disproportionate.

What's the point in spending £45m on a midfield if they're supplying a £200k striker?

There are only 2 PL teams who've scored fewer than us all season.

We should break the bank to get a proper striker in, one who does the defence and midfield justice.

What about our record signing, who is currently injured?

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:06 am

Tall Paul wrote:What about our record signing, who is currently injured?

He's currently injured

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:07 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:He's currently injured

So is Brady, but you counted him in our spending on midfield.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:09 am

And we are replacing him with an England international and a French U21 international.

Not Brighton's reserve striker.

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:12 am

Sutton-Claret wrote:We must have the same friend of a friend of a friend.....

Does that make us friends of a friend of a friend of a friend? Small world both of us being Clarets!!!

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:16 am

At £20million Dembele won't be coming here with interest from Palace, Everton and Brighton

claretandblue1989 · Post by **claretandblue1989** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:17 am

Break the bank for him (transfer fee, not wage). He would score goals. Probably sell him on for a lot more if he did well too.

Indecisive · Post by **Indecisive** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:21 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:
They're currently trying to supply a £200k striker who would look out of place in a lower league

Just go and boil your head mate.

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:21 am

Hopefully Nkoudo and Lennon will provide more creativity but we need a striker in the Wood/Gray/Austin mould who has an eye for goal.

We can't rely on Barnes and Vokes when Wood is out injured.

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:22 am

I’ve seen absolutely nothing to suggest that Dembele is capable of playing at Premier League level.

Most Championship players would look good in the SPL.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:26 am

Indecisive wrote:Just go and boil your head mate.

I'd still be better in the air than diver Barnes, even with a boiled head.

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:31 am

We'd be unbelievable with someone who can run in behind a la Vardy.

The way we can sit back and have Brady, Cork, Defour, Gudmun all capable of playing balls over the top.

We'd win the league. Easy.

ClaretEngineer · Post by **ClaretEngineer** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:31 am

''Mazda Demio''
''Go and boil your head''

My day is complete

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:38 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:I'd still be better in the air than diver Barnes, even with a boiled head.

So you think we spend a lot of money on a striker just because Wood is injured ?
What happens when he returns ? Do we put a £15m / £20m striker on the bench or shall we go 4-4-2 to accommodate him and put a £15m midfielder on the bench instead ?

Which striker should we get ?

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:40 am

TVC15 wrote:So you think we spend a lot of money on a striker just because Wood is injured ?
What happens when he returns ? Do we put a £15m / £20m striker on the bench or shall we go 4-4-2 to accommodate him and put a £15m midfielder on the bench instead ?

Which striker should we get ?

So you're happy to stagnate, to fall down the table because the other options are championship players signed for a couple of hundred thousand each?

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:46 am

I pointed out when we signed Wood, my Leeds supporting friend told me and I posted it on this board, that he had two or three minor injuries when at Leeds but was out for prolonged lengths of time.

So I agree we need another 15-20 million pound striker.

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:46 am

TVC15 wrote:So you think we spend a lot of money on a striker just because Wood is injured ?
What happens when he returns ? Do we put a £15m / £20m striker on the bench or shall we go 4-4-2 to accommodate him and put a £15m midfielder on the bench instead ?

Which striker should we get ?

We need to keep improving our squad whilst were in this league. That might take spending £15/20m on each new player. We can't give up on new signings because we've already got some players at that money in that position.

BFC88 · Post by **BFC88** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:48 am

Grumps wrote:I wouldn't disagree with you at all, it's just that I don't think there is anyone out there, in our price bracket who could go straight into the side this season

Danny Ings on loan. Would slot straight in and transform our toothless attack in an instant. He's going somewhere on loan this Jan and i would be disappointed if we werent fighting to get him

JimmyMac'sMate · Post by **JimmyMac'sMate** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:49 am

Trust me a front three off Lennon vokes and the lad we got from spurs carnt spell is name sorry will score goals utc

JimmyMac'sMate · Post by **JimmyMac'sMate** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:51 am

Trust me a front three off Lennon vokes and the lad we got from spurs carnt spell is name sorry will score goals utc

claret59 · Post by **claret59** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:02 pm

Just which £200.000 striker is constantly being referred to in such a disparaging way ? I guess it is the supposed fee we paid Brighton when we signed Ashley Barnes. The fee was supposedly £300.000 and that was several years ago. His current value is arguable but if Chelsea are really looking at him to sign for them then it would be in the millions of pounds and not hundreds of thousands.

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:13 pm

We do need better than someone who 'works hard' now, at the level we're at.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:16 pm

Kenwyne Jones and Dickson Etuhu linked today

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:17 pm

Don't be surprised if Robbie Keane, Conor Mcgregor and Damien Duff join before the window closes.

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:17 pm

It's the hardest position to buy because the good ones are proper well good and won't come to Burnley, the 20m+ ones often turn out to be european duds, and 10-20 million tends to buy the best from the division below.

https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top ... oals?se=79" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
This is a list of the current top scorers; who could we afford and who would come to us?
Charlie Austin? Niasse? Wilson? Okazaki?

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:19 pm

The only reason we are having this debate is because of an injury to Wood as he's more than good enough at this level. We just need a loan to tide us over, not a replacement.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:30 pm

If we could get Charlie Austin for between £5m and £10m I'd be happy with that - though he has a worse injury record than Wood previously had.

I think at the moment we need better quality players (like Lennon) supporting our forwards. If Wood is going to be out for a while then bringing in a loan signing would be a better option than spending £20m on a striker when at this stage we are not desperate for one to keep us up.

I get that we need to keep on improving - but we are doing that and just happen to have big players out injured.

I'm up for spending another £30m - £40m in the summer to improve the team further but if we get out first team out who could argue that this team is not a great sign of our improvements

Heaton
Lowton
Tarks
Mee
Ward / Taylor
Defour
Cork
JBG
Lennon
Brady
Wood

With a strong bench - Pope, Hendrick, Westwood, etc etc

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:36 pm

Spijed wrote:The only reason we are having this debate is because of an injury to Wood as he's more than good enough at this level. We just need a loan to tide us over, not a replacement.

I wouldn't say he's 'more than good enough' yet as we haven't seen enough. And why not have two players battling it out, it's what squads are for.

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:37 pm

We need a better service to whoever is playing up front but we are not in the free fall crisis some would make out we are in. We have lost 3 at home to Spurs, Liverpool and Man Utd yet only really been outplayed in one of them. We have lost away at Crystal Palace, a team riddled with pace and by admission didn't really compete.

We are in a bit of a pickle due to injuries but for some reason our first team squad according to some is now riddled with injury prone players.

Going on the last 12 months we have seen players out for several weeks due to being crunched by an unfair tackle (Gudmunssen & Walters) or smashing into another player whilst attempting to score (Brady & Wood) or competing for the ball (Lowton & Ward).

Continually breaking bits in routine training is what I regard as injury prone.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:22 pm

Spijed wrote:The only reason we are having this debate is because of an injury to Wood as he's more than good enough at this level. We just need a loan to tide us over, not a replacement.

Nobody is going to loan us a striker that is better than the ones we have.

adropofclaret · Post by **adropofclaret** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:40 pm

one of Vokes or Barnes out and go in with a bid for the Southampton striker Gabbiadini

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:44 pm

adropofclaret wrote:one of Vokes or Barnes out and go in with a bid for the Southampton striker Gabbiadini

Why would we want another striker who doesn't score many goals?