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Hendrick

Postby Vegas Claret » Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:37 pm

I think he proved today where his place on the pitch should be, much more effective. Well done Jeff
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Re: Hendrick

Postby IndigoLake » Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:38 pm

Thought he was poor first half (not that he had much opportunity to touch the ball) but much better 2nd half. Much better all round really.
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Re: Hendrick

Postby jdrobbo » Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:39 pm

Agree with op

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Re: Hendrick

Postby NRC » Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:41 pm

Agree. And while we’re at it, JBG at #10 please with Georges out wide

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Re: Hendrick

Postby piston broke » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:26 pm

NRC wrote:Agree. And while we’re at it, JBG at #10 please with Georges out wide

Why? Barnes and Vokes allowed us to pump the balls into the box.
JBG, out wide, did his job and got on the end of one.

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Re: Hendrick

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:34 pm

Much better today. Far better in that role. We get far more from him in the middle of the park.

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Re: Hendrick

Postby ClaretTony » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:37 pm

NRC wrote:And while we’re at it, JBG at #10 please


Really? Why?

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Re: Hendrick

Postby Belgianclaret » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:38 pm

Certainly a better game today from him, even though I'd always select a fit Defour in that role

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Re: Hendrick

Postby Foulthrow » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:40 pm

For all the Hendrick haters today demonstrated the sacrifice that Jeff has made for the good of the team. Hopefully he’ll now get a run in centre midfield.
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Re: Hendrick

Postby MACCA » Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:05 pm

Played ok today, still the least effective of the midfielders but the other 3 did very well to be fair.
He should start finding his feet in there again now the Burnley Yaya Toure

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Re: Hendrick

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:30 pm

NRC wrote:Agree. And while we’re at it, JBG at #10 please with Georges out wide


JBG HAS to play on the wing. And when he and Lennon were on their correct wings they were even better. A Ploy perhaps to start on one then switch?

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Re: Hendrick

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:25 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:JBG HAS to play on the wing. And when he and Lennon were on their correct wings they were even better. A Ploy perhaps to start on one then switch?

Danny Murphy just said same. He knows his stuff that lad.

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Re: Hendrick

Postby Claretincraven » Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:35 pm

Very pleased Jeff was back nearer his best today. I was absolutely appalled at the prat sat behind me in JHU who took every opportunity to berate him and then bollocked his son aged about six for applauding him when he obviously felt he did something of merit. "Don't applaud him he's useless" At least he has now moved on from having a go at Arfield.

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Re: Hendrick

Postby DuckworthsEA » Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:38 pm

Much better today. Whilst Defour is out he should stick with 4-4-2 and give Vokes a long run in the team
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Re: Hendrick

Postby bobinho » Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:54 am

Did well today, especially in the second half. Up against real quality too. Well done Jeff.

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Re: Hendrick

Postby superdimitri » Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:45 pm

Amazing what you can do when you stop carrying a player.

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Re: Hendrick

Postby Bin Ont Turf » Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:49 pm

superdimitri wrote:Amazing what you can do when you stop carrying a player.



You mean when you bring your transfer record forward on.
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Re: Hendrick

Postby Right_winger » Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:52 pm

Hendricks been anonymous for a while now. His current role isn't suited to him at all. He's a fairly rounded player who excels at nothing. Fine for a top championship side but not enough quality at this level I'm afraid.

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Re: Hendrick

Postby superdimitri » Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:53 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:You mean when you bring your transfer record forward on.

For our previous transfer record breaking central midfielder.

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Re: Hendrick

Postby Bin Ont Turf » Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:55 pm

superdimitri wrote:For our previous transfer record breaking central midfielder.


For a change of tactic.

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Re: Hendrick

Postby ClaretAL » Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:56 pm

Hendrick is a fantastic CM, but his confidence is shot. so some time away from the lime light and pressure will do him some good.
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Re: Hendrick

Postby superdimitri » Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:56 pm

Hes a decent player just a passenger in his recent role, but today the difference for me was how much better Westwood played. Top decision from Dyche to keep him on. Whilst Hendrick plays better as a CM, he probably isn't used to it now having been asked to play a number 10 role for so long.

Jeffs turn for some bench warming I hope. Just a shame it probably means we go back to 442 again when I think 451 would be great if we had a player better suited to that role than him.

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Re: Hendrick

Postby Somethingfishy » Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:57 pm

Whilst he has been poor in recent weeks, it is more the system that is being played and his unsuitability for the position that is the problem. The blame for that lies squarely with SD. Persevering with something that was not working and it has drained any confidence out of the guy. For what it is worth i thought he was better against Southampton last week without being amazing and much the same again today. He didn't play badly..the tactic wasn't what we needed to be effective in the game.
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Re: Hendrick

Postby superdimitri » Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:58 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:For a change of tactic.

Yet he kept Westwood on and subbed Hendrick.

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Re: Hendrick

Postby Bin Ont Turf » Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:59 pm

superdimitri wrote:Yet he kept Westwood on and subbed Hendrick.



Because Westwood was doing well and did so in the previous game.

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Re: Hendrick

Postby Dark Cloud » Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:00 pm

I'm not Hendrick's biggest fan, but I really felt for him today. IMO he was having a good un!

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Re: Hendrick

Postby gandhisflipflop » Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:08 pm

I am one of his biggest critics but today was the best performance i have seen all season from him. It was ironic that he was pulled today.
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Re: Hendrick

Postby claretdj » Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:20 pm

Unless dyche swaps him for westwood (which would be unlucky for westy) then unfortunately hendrick's best place is on the bench @ the moment..

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Re: Hendrick

Postby 3putt » Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:24 pm

He was doing okay today, but nothing special (albeit better than some of his shockers). Just not good enough at this level in my opinion. He's had too long a run in the team.

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Re: Hendrick

Postby MACCA » Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:43 pm

I'm one of his biggest critics ( as you may well know) however I thought he did ok first half, better than ok in fact.
If anyone I thought Westwood would be hooked, because of the yellow, as well as Hendrick being more of an offensive threat.

However the 2nd half showed what can be achieved when you play the correct personnel, in the correct positions.

Many fans have been screaming out for that line up and approach for weeks. Kind of seems like the post Hull game that started that 23 game unbeaten run. We've finally done what many have seen needed doing weeks ago.

But back to Hendrick, he's best game in 3 months, easily...
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Re: Hendrick

Postby Dum Spiro Spero » Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:57 pm

He was in The Fence Gate after the match. I don't think he had the same eagerness for post substitution relaxation as a previously substituted Burnley player and he had the decency to wait until the game was over.

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Re: Hendrick

Postby warksclaret » Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:23 pm

I think if he was playing for Ireland tomorrow , in his right position against good opposition (ie Italy or France), you would see what a good player he is

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Re: Hendrick

Postby boyyanno » Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:27 pm

Best game in a while, had some very nice touches. Still thought he should have tracked his runner for their goal.

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Re: Hendrick

Postby bfccrazy » Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:48 pm

Quality today - made some great moves and his touch is unreal at times.

I posted last week about confidence and today he seemed the opposite - thought at times that team mates had less confidence in him and I got annoyed with the bloke behind be berating his offside run from Barnes' ball. Made the perfect run but Barnes waited ages to release him.

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Re: Hendrick

Postby Vintage Claret » Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:14 pm

IMO Hendrick is a good player just not in the "no. 10 role" for want of a better phrase
Surprised he was hooked at half time but not because I thought he was playing well but because its not very often SD makes a half time sub, a decision I thought he got spot on today.

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Re: Hendrick

Postby superdimitri » Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:02 am

It was the same when got rid of McCann and paired Marney with Jones...everyone on clarets mad were holding on to their Golden boy and how it was never his fault.

Today was an example of how much better you can perform with everyone playing well.

Jeff did okay today before he went off, he played a little better than he usually does, but to be honest I expected that from him 10 games ago. Too little too late.

Those of you who think he was excellent really need to up your standards. We're in the top ten of the Premier league now and we can't afford passengers in the team.

I'm sure he will get his chance again, but I hope it's only further back. He's a good central midfielder but hasn't the versatility to play anything else. If you want the polar opposite of him look at Wayne Rooney, 10 goals in 24 games playing in a poor Everton side. Now there's a number 10. :roll:

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Re: Hendrick

Postby Bin Ont Turf » Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:29 am

superdimitri wrote:
He's a good central midfielder but hasn't the versatility to play anything else.


He's the only one out of Cork, Defour, Westwood and Marney who does have versatility, and can beat a man.

It's alright thinking that he can't play behind the forward and/or the opinion that he's not fitting the system, but this 'passenger' shite is a load of f***ing b0llocks.

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Re: Hendrick

Postby scouseclaret » Sun Mar 04, 2018 8:23 am

Vegas Claret wrote:I think he proved today where his place on the pitch should be, much more effective. Well done Jeff


I think he proved n the second half yesterday where his place in the squad should be....

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Re: Hendrick

Postby Stevie Morgan » Sun Mar 04, 2018 8:59 am

Bin Ont Turf wrote:He's the only one out of Cork, Defour, Westwood and Marney who does have versatility, and can beat a man.

It's alright thinking that he can't play behind the forward and/or the opinion that he's not fitting the system, but this 'passenger' shite is a load of f***ing b0llocks.


You seriously saying Defour can't beat a man? Even Cork beat a man today although he was then fouled.

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Re: Hendrick

Postby UpTheClaretsFCBK » Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:00 am

I thought he played pretty well before being subbed.

People just seem to have a vendetta against him.

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Re: Hendrick

Postby IndigoLake » Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:10 am

Hendrick has simply been out of position too long and it has probably knocked his confidence a bit. I didn't think he was too bad in yesterday's game but if a change had to be made (and it did) then it made more sense that he make way.

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Re: Hendrick

Postby taio » Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:13 am

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:I thought he played pretty well before being subbed.

People just seem to have a vendetta against him.


No vendetta. He just generally hasn't played well enough. Too anonyomous too often. And too many supporters feel the same for that to be dismissed.

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Re: Hendrick

Postby andyh » Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:25 am

I think Hendrick has been an ok signing. He has a presence. However he really struggles in the 10 role. He hasn’t got quick feet or a quick mind. He is ok in a more regular midfield role and he looks to have tried to do what the manager has asked if him. However he just can’t do it at this level. It is not his fault. Still I think it may stand him in good stead for the future as he has tried to add some of the skills to his game.

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Re: Hendrick

Postby summitclaret » Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:47 am

It was his best game for ages. However the main reason we scored 2 and therefore won was that he went off. He is not a nr 10 for home games at least and never will be. People can have a go at people like me all they want but on this we are right and have been all along. Outcomes are what matters and yesterday was proof.

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Re: Hendrick

Postby mdd2 » Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:49 am

Anyone think we will go 442 now for the remainder of the season with Barnes/Vokes and Wood?

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Re: Hendrick

Postby 3putt » Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:56 am

mdd2 wrote:Anyone think we will go 442 now for the remainder of the season with Barnes/Vokes and Wood?


Think that should be the favoured format with Lennon proving what a top class right winger he is, Barnes play well and Wood too good to be not playing when fit.
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Re: Hendrick

Postby IanMcL » Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:59 am

Perhaps we will play with gay abandon. Nothing to lose.

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Re: Hendrick

Postby boatshed bill » Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:59 am

Perhaps he'd do the "No 10" position better with Wood up top?

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Re: Hendrick

Postby 3putt » Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:02 am

taio wrote:No vendetta. He just generally hasn't played well enough. Too anonyomous too often. And too many supporters feel the same for that to be dismissed.


Spot on.
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Re: Hendrick

Postby summitclaret » Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:06 am

He did do better with wood earlier in the season to be fair and i think he has missed ward and in particular brady. However, going forward we need a proper nr 10. I really believe we are only that short of being the real deal.


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