Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

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Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by Spijed » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:03 pm

No chance!

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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by claretrobo1 » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:04 pm

No I don't think we will. Let's remember we don't have many difficult games now but we need to change the way we play and not sit back and nick a 1-0. We need to attack willingly

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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by KRBFC » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:04 pm

No but how sh** was that to watch? surely you understand the frustration..... we didn't even try to beat Swansea, set up for a 0-0 from kick off. Boring... If we're not going down then it's more of a chance to take risks, try to win 3 points, it effectively doesn't matter if we lose.
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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by starting_11 » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:04 pm

Depends. If we keep giving points to those below us, it could very easily happen.

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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by ClaretAndJew » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:05 pm

Only due to our early season form.

We're still not entirely out of the woods but we're unlikely to go down, despite our actually abysmal form.

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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:05 pm

Go down. As if !
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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by 3putt » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:05 pm

Is it even a serious question??
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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by Wilsdenclaret » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:06 pm

Only need a point ffs

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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by Spijed » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:07 pm

starting_11 wrote:Depends. If we keep giving points to those below us, it could very easily happen.
We'd have top lose every game to have the slightest chance. 1-2 points to be totally sure.

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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:08 pm

I don't think we'll go down, but I don't think we'll finish anywhere near 7th, either.
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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by Claretmatt4 » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:09 pm

Saxoman wrote:Sadly no, but your form is amusing all the same.
Oldham though
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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by Barry_Chuckle » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:09 pm

Saxoman wrote:Sadly no, but your form is amusing all the same.
Resident Gimp has arrived :roll: :roll:

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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by Spijed » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:09 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I don't think we'll go down, but I don't think we'll finish anywhere near 7th, either.
Which with our budget and wages is it really surprising?

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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by Saxoman » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:10 pm

Claretmatt4 wrote:Oldham though
Top 6 though.

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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:10 pm

Spijed wrote:Which with our budget and wages is it really surprising?
No. But I never suggested otherwise.

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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by Dike Muff » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:12 pm

No, but that doesn’t justify just how poor we are playing in these games. Our pre-Christmas points cushion should have given us the opportunity to push on and be a little more adventurous. Our Manager’s intransigent ratiocination is leading our season into disappointment and sterility.

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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by lrac » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:13 pm

Saxoman wrote:Sadly no, but your form is amusing all the same.
What league do your crap play in please. dip stick

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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by Claretmatt4 » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:13 pm

Saxoman wrote:Top 6 though.
League one
No fans
No money
Shitloads of debt
Reputation for interfering with horses
Owned by chicken farmers from india who have no idea what the hell is going on
'Assets' stripped.
Everything you've ever achieved has been through financial doping or in the 1800s
Posting on a Burnley forum

Though.

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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by MACCA » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:14 pm

No but no side has ever managed not to finish in the top half the same position and points we had after the Stoke game.

We will probably break that record.
Serious chance we could have a hangover next season, we really are crawling to the line.

But the approach has been the same since day dot, if no win in 10 doesn't make you go for it at freefall Newcastle, nothing will
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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by RocketLawnChair » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:14 pm

No we won’t go down. The way we go about certain games when we are virtually safe with 12 games left is very confusing too say the least though. The lad from Spurs may as well go back if he can’t get on the pitch before Arfield when we are drawing 0-0 with Swansea...
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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by watsonsclarets » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:14 pm

I look at it this way ref Dyche..

We have the lowest wage budget or in the bottom 3, we are tipped to be bottom 3. We have a bottom 5 playing squad in terms of ability.

But we have a manager and a ethos with bar maybe a couple iof sides is top class.

Crap today and on a few days but lets be honest the players are of average ability he just get the maximum out of them.

Today i think it was negative.

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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by Spijed » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:16 pm

We ended last season poorly.....

An then Beat Chelsea, drew at Spurs, Liverpool etc..

What problem from the previous season?
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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by Claretmatt4 » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:18 pm

watsonsclarets wrote:I look at it this way ref Dyche..

We have the lowest wage budget or in the bottom 3, we are tipped to be bottom 3. We have a bottom 5 playing squad in terms of ability.
Disagree on all 3. Wages probably bottom five, bookies probably borderline bottom 3. Playing squad is not bottom 5 either.
Injuries playing a big part but I'd rather we went for it than sat back when we have nothing to lose

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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by watsonsclarets » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:19 pm

I think the squad ability alone is bottom 5. (I'm talking technical ability)

We where tipped to go down by all bookies start of the season.

Wages think only maybe Huddersfield would pay less.

We have something special at the club.

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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by elwaclaret » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:23 pm

Is it just me who expected nothing else today. Swansea are on the up and must be one of our bogey sides of recent years. I would like to see the catch 'em early aggression return though. I don't think it is any co-incidence the number of points we picked up when teams were forced to re-think their game plans.

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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by RocketLawnChair » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:26 pm

watsonsclarets wrote:I think the squad ability alone is bottom 5. (I'm talking technical ability)

We where tipped to go down by all bookies start of the season.

Wages think only maybe Huddersfield would pay less.

We have something special at the club.
None of the above matter. At 3pm today we kicked off against Swansea we were on 36 points with 12 games left, So why not release the shackles a bit. The substitution was ridiculous at 0-0.

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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by bartons baggage » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:26 pm

Dike Muff wrote:No, but that doesn’t justify just how poor we are playing in these games. Our pre-Christmas points cushion should have given us the opportunity to push on and be a little more adventurous. Our Manager’s intransigent ratiocination is leading our season into disappointment and sterility.
Multiple username me thinks. :roll:

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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by Dike Muff » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:29 pm

bartons baggage wrote:Multiple username me thinks. :roll:
Ad hominem, me thinks?

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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by watsonsclarets » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:34 pm

RocketLawnChair wrote:None of the above matter. At 3pm today we kicked off against Swansea we were on 36 points with 12 games left, So why not release the shackles a bit. The substitution was ridiculous at 0-0.
Hey i totally agree mate, that was crap.
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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by biggles » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:34 pm

not relegated but i wouldn't be surprised if by the end of the month we aren't be in the top 12.

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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by bartons baggage » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:38 pm

Dike Muff wrote:Ad hominem, me thinks?
Contrafaco.

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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by Tall Paul » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:38 pm

biggles wrote:not relegated but i wouldn't be surprised if by the end of the month we aren't be in the top 12.
I'll guarantee that we will be in the top 12 by the end of the month.

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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by biggles » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:41 pm

guarantee? really? i do hope we are

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Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:42 pm

In chance a not hell's cat.

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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by Sidney1st » Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:02 pm

We haven't hit 40 points yet so anything is possible in this league.
We should be fine and I suspect we will be but something needs to change in our set up and sooner rather than later.

Please tell me Wood is back soon??

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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by Spijed » Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:05 pm

Sidney1st wrote:We haven't hit 40 points yet so anything is possible in this league.
We should be fine and I suspect we will be but something needs to change in our set up and sooner rather than later.

Please tell me Wood is back soon??
Since when has 40 points been required for safety?

A mythical figure that has no relation to the actual reality of what's required.

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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by Tall Paul » Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:07 pm

biggles wrote:guarantee? really? i do hope we are
There are only one more set of fixtures between now and the end of the month and we're six points above 12th place.

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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by mdd2 » Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:12 pm

Next season if we take this run into 2018-19

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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by Milltown1882 » Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:16 pm

We were effectively safe at the start of December. 0 wins in 11 is absolutely dreadful though no matter what level of football you’re looking at.

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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:18 pm

We already have two more points (36) than would have been required to keep us up
last season, if that's all we'd got.(34) And there's around a third of the season left.

There's no reason to think the points needed to stay up this time will be
hugely different. Maybe two or three more.

There's not the slightest chance we'll go down.
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Post by RingoMcCartney » Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:48 pm

Claretmatt4 wrote:Oldham though
10 man Oldham though.

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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by SGr » Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:53 pm

There are clubs that won't finish on the points we have no. Doesn't excuse our form though.

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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by Sidney1st » Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:37 pm

Spijed wrote:Since when has 40 points been required for safety?

A mythical figure that has no relation to the actual reality of what's required.
Despite everyone generally accepting 40 is safety

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Post by Spijed » Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:10 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Despite everyone generally accepting 40 is safety
Probably just because it's a nice round number.

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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by Walton » Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:50 pm

I don't think I've seen anyone saying that we'll go down.

I did see someone say we've been in relegation form recently, which is true. That's definitely not the same as anyone saying we'll go down.

It's only the same as us saying we showed promotion form to escape relegation in 1998.

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Post by tiger76 » Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:57 pm

No chance we will go down but would be nice to see some decent performances and one or two wins before the seasons end.

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Re: Do some supporters seriously think we might be in danger of going down?

Post by titsoutforthelads » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:10 pm

Out in Swansea tonight and getting a bit of stick from Swans but"we are 7th in best league on the world " shuts them up.
A bit of perspective is required at the moment.
Yes today could have been better but gone are the days of losing 6-5 on a Tuesday night.

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