Another day, another mass shooting in the States

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Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by Spijed » Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:01 pm

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by ElectroClaret » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:26 pm

"At least fifteen dead"....Fox News

This is the eighteenth school shooting this year in the USA.

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by bfccrazy » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:30 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:"At least fifteen dead"....Fox News

This is the eighteenth school shooting this year in the USA.
as in this calendar year?

If so that is mental.

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by ElectroClaret » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:32 pm

bfccrazy wrote:as in this calendar year?

If so that is mental.
Yes, this year, or so a couple of channels have said.
Although I've just watched another channel and they say it's
twelve this year.

Edit....Seventeen confirmed dead. (Local Sheriff)

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by HunterST_BFC » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:39 pm

Sadly the gun clubs answer is still :roll: :roll: :roll: that teachers should be armed :roll: :roll: :roll:

Nothing will change in the good ol' US of A.

God Bless America.

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by ElectroClaret » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:49 pm

Gun sales tomorrow will soar, as usual after these events, because
people will fear tighter gun controls will come in, making it harder to
buy a firearm.

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by bfcmik » Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:02 am

The 18 gun related incidents this calendar year include a couple of suicides and accidental weapon firings and have, mostly, resulted in no injuries.https://everytownresearch.org/school-shootings/

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by Leisure » Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:08 am

bfcmik wrote:The 18 gun related incidents this calendar year include a couple of suicides and accidental weapon firings and have, mostly, resulted in no injuries.https://everytownresearch.org/school-shootings/
Oh, that's OK then! Since 2013 there's been 291 reported school shootings in America, which averages out at 1 per week. Crazy!
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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by KRBFC » Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:10 am

HunterST_BFC wrote:Sadly the gun clubs answer is still :roll: :roll: :roll: that teachers should be armed :roll: :roll: :roll:

Nothing will change in the good ol' US of A.

God Bless America.
Sounds like a good idea, certainly wouldn't harm to try it.

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by ElectroClaret » Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:11 am

This is the third deadliest school shooting in terms of numbers.

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by Imploding Turtle » Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:16 am

It should be shocking, but it's not.
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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by Imploding Turtle » Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:18 am

HunterST_BFC wrote:Sadly the gun clubs answer is still :roll: :roll: :roll: that teachers should be armed :roll: :roll: :roll:

Nothing will change in the good ol' US of A.

God Bless America.

I'm sure they'll be suggesting having armed Prefects before long.

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by tim_noone » Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:20 am

Leisure wrote:Oh, that's OK then! Since 2013 there's been 291 reported school shootings in America, which averages out at 1 per week. Crazy!
That's shocking :?

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by Sidney1st » Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:15 am

KRBFC wrote:Sounds like a good idea, certainly wouldn't harm to try it.
If nothing else it would stop kids back chatting the teachers :lol:

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by Sidney1st » Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:17 am

Usual defensive responses from Americans on social media.

In a way they're right, change's to gun laws won't stop this happening because its simply too late with the number of guns in their country.

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:30 am

Another president offering condolences and prayers which one day is sure to work over policy change on guns.
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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by Socrates » Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:36 am

Jim Jefferies absolutely nails it here.

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by Lord Beamish » Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:59 am

Congress is passing a Law to prevent Schools from prohibiting running in the school corridors; they want to give the kids a fighting chance.

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by Lancasterclaret » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:00 am

and in part 2

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by Lancasterclaret » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:01 am

I give it five years, and that bunch of gun happy nutters will be passing laws that allows kids to take guns into school "for their own protection"

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by Lancasterclaret » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:11 am

Tweet from a US based reporter

"I've now covered the 1st, 2nd, 5th and 9th deadliest shootings in American history. Been in the States just 2 years."

Ace

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:13 am

It's sort of an American tradition it happens that often now.

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by ElectroClaret » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:20 am

Just said on CBS news, as a reminder, around ninety other people were killed yesterday
across America by firearms, besides this incident.

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by ClaretMoffitt » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:25 am

I honestly don't understand why they don't just limit civilian gun ownership to handguns, shotguns and single fire rifles. Why on earth would anyone need anymore than that?
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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by Sidney1st » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:27 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:Tweet from a US based reporter

"I've now covered the 1st, 2nd, 5th and 9th deadliest shootings in American history. Been in the States just 2 years."

Ace

*achievement unlocked*
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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by Blackrod » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:32 am

ClaretMoffitt wrote:I honestly don't understand why they don't just limit civilian gun ownership to handguns, shotguns and single fire rifles. Why on earth would anyone need anymore than that?
This less the handguns. Civilians really don't need weapons such as AK47s to protect themselves from looters. Many in the US see this as a right unfortunately.

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by Sidney1st » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:39 am

Some appear to genuinely feel they need weapons in case of either invasion or to stop their government if it goes rogue.

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by Lancasterclaret » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:44 am

I honestly don't understand why they don't just limit civilian gun ownership to handguns, shotguns and single fire rifles. Why on earth would anyone need anymore than that?
Because its no fun blowing stuff away when you can't just let rip on full automatic. Takes away all the fun.

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by quoonbeatz » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:49 am

does anyone even bat an eyelid when these shootings are reported anymore? just another day in america. country full of and led by idiots.

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by taio » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:59 am

quoonbeatz wrote:does anyone even bat an eyelid when these shootings are reported anymore? just another day in america. country full of and led by idiots.
Yes because it's a devastating loss of young life and not just another day. It's not a country full of idiots either, though it has more than it's fair share.
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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by Goodclaret » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:11 am

Don't worry, Trump has got this. He's said that no child or teacher should fear for their lives at school. He obviously sends thoughts and prayers too.

And there we go, the nutter will crack on without changing anything until he says exactly the same when the next shooting occurs.

It really is sad and frightening.

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by Sidney1st » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:12 am

quoonbeatz wrote:does anyone even bat an eyelid when these shootings are reported anymore? just another day in america. country full of and led by idiots.
taio wrote:
Yes because it's a devastating loss of young life and not just another day. It's not a country full of idiots either, though it has more than it's fair share.
Some people bat an eye lid, others don't.
I didn't have a clue it had happened until I was browsing twitter last night and spotted some comments that made me check the news.

Then I saw Piers Morgan's post demanding Trump take action pretty much, followed by the other stuff.

We can wring our hands or send our prayers as much as we like, but this will be allowed to carry on by the US government.

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by conyoviejo » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:36 am

R.I.P. to those innocents who have been gunned down in the prime of their life..

Sadly it won't be long before we are reading about the next one..

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by SammyBoy » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:40 am

I saw a news report this morning in which the father of one of the survivors (and a Doctor nonetheless) was on the one hand thanking God his daughter had made it out alive, whilst simultaneously defending his and other Americans rights to carry firearms. Talk about not being able to see the wood for the trees.

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by quoonbeatz » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:11 am

taio wrote:Yes because it's a devastating loss of young life and not just another day. It's not a country full of idiots either, though it has more than it's fair share.
18 shootings at schools in america this year alone, taio. there's only been 45 days - that's less than 1 every 3 days!

did anyone even know the other 18 had happened? perhaps a certain number of people have to be killed to make it newsworthy these days.

and that's my point. yes, absolutely, its a terrible loss of lives but if there was one school shooting here there would rightly be uproar. 18 is ridiculous. and the fact that its taken one on this scale for it to be reported over here shows how mainstream it is now, how desensitised people are to it.

its shocking that its happened but is anyone shocked by it happening yet again? i very much doubt it.

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by Jeffbfc » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:16 am

Sidney1st wrote:Some appear to genuinely feel they need weapons in case of either invasion or to stop their government if it goes rogue.

That's our fault.
The right to bear arms was after the independence, if Britain tried to retake the Colonies.
Britain was still one if not the main milatery powers of the world so the right to bear arms was for the population to have weapons incase we (or someone else) invaded again as the US was mainly a militia force and would have needed the increased manpower of its civilians.
Now they just seem intent on killing ther own civilians.

But as Charlton Heston said.
"I'll give you my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead hands"

What chance do you have with that mentality.
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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by Sidney1st » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:21 am

Jeffbfc wrote:That's our fault.
The right to bear arms was after the independence, if Britain tried to retake the Colonies.
Britain was still one if not the main milatery powers of the world so the right to bear arms was for the population to have weapons incase we (or someone else) invaded again as the US was mainly a militia force and would have needed the increased manpower of its civilians.
Now they just seem intent on killing ther own civilians.

But as Charlton Heston said.
"I'll give you my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead hands"

What chance do you have with that mentality.
No, it's their fault for being backwards enough to think it's still a relevant issue.
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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by Lancasterclaret » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:29 am

Not original, but the right to bear arms makes as much sense as the right to arm bears.
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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by Jeffbfc » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:31 am

Sidney1st wrote:No, it's their fault for being backwards enough to think it's still a relevant issue.
The "that's our fault" was a exactly that. It isn't relevant any more.
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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by Sidney1st » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:38 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:Not original, but the right to bear arms makes as much sense as the right to arm bears.
http://siberiantimes.com/other/others/n ... an-region/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by quoonbeatz » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:44 am

arming bears makes more sense, seeing as donald has made them fair game for shooting again.

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by Spijed » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:47 am

It's sad to think that the mentality of the NRA is far more dangerous to US citizens on American soil than radicalisation from Islamic State.

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by grapidianclaret » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:47 am

Since 1968 1.5 million American civilians have died as a result of guns.
All quiet from the gun lobbies at the moment,they usually give it 3 days before they start spouting their nationalist mantra regarding gun ownership.

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by LordBob » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:53 am

Its all about population control bit harsh but it is the USA.

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by Foulthrow » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:57 am

The system is broke. It gives way too much influence to a small minority of committed, noisy and usually wealthy individuals.

If America is serious about changing gun laws all it's citizens need to do is go and vote. And keeping voting. But they don't.

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by 9thMay1987 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:24 pm

If 18 young American students had been shot outside the boundaries of the US there would would been outrage from Mr. Trump, the gun lobby and all their citizens.

Inside the US no such response only guns keep us safe.

I read an article on the ITV site where their US correspondent's children's spend more time on drills in case someone shots up the school than on outside sports.

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by bfccrazy » Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:19 pm

He had mental health problems - so guessing he isn't Muslim.

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by HiroshimaClaret » Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:19 pm

Feel awful saying this but I did not feel one pang of emotion upon reading this on various news outlets. I`m afraid I have become desensitised to this nonsense in America. Awful though it is, the passivity of the US government on this issue is solely to blame for a collective shrugging of shoulders around the world. I`m afraid it will take some loner with rifles to open fire in Congress or Senate for the laws to be changed.

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by Spijed » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:07 pm

Hard to have much sympathy for the parents when they still want to keep guns:

"I'm a gun owner. I don't want the government taking my guns"

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Re: Another day, another mass shooting in the States

Post by Lancasterclaret » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:18 pm

Posted it before, but Dutch TV did rather nail the NRA last year

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