Sol Campbell

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:25 pm

When will someone take a chance on this humble chap?

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starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:30 pm

Why doesn't he go to Germany then?

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:31 pm

What a strange and arrogant man.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:33 pm

Here's what I don't understand though.

The very nature of football, you start nowhere, you do not automatically start in a football league side, at any level, you work your way up. You are a schoolboy, an amateur league player, on the books of a pro but in the youth team. You don't just one day turn 16, go to a club and say look I'm really good at football give me a job and play me every week in your first team.

Surely then, that the same applies for management jobs? You don't just suddenly one day manage a football club, without any real experience, be it at U18/23 coaching level, assistant etc. What are these people on about, who whinge that they don't get jobs? Yet they aren't doing anything about it, like plying their trade at a club in the background etc.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:44 pm

I'm being wasted because of a lack of experience

Considering they are set to appoint Craig Bellamy, I don't think its lack of experience that's meant you have got the job

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:44 pm

Arrogant bugger!!

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:49 pm

Bellemy retired from playing in 2014 and has been a coach at the Cardiff academy since 2014

Sol Campbell retired from playing in 2011 and has been assistant manager for Trinidad and Tobago since 2017

I'd say Bellemy has more experience.

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:59 pm

The guy is an absolute bellend. **** off you boring arrogant knob. Obviously feels coaching and gaining experiance is below him. Honestly if he was that good surely Arsene would have him coaching Arsenals limp defence.

He couldn’t run a ******* bath.

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:00 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Bellemy retired from playing in 2014 and has been a coach at the Cardiff academy since 2014

Sol Campbell retired from playing in 2011 and has been assistant manager for Trinidad and Tobago since 2017

I'd say Bellemy has more experience.

I like Bellemy. He’s good on that SS Debate thingy. Always thought he was a bit of an arse but he’s alreyt. I think wales got it wrong choosing Giggs.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:04 pm

Sol Campbell's major stumbling block is the fact that he's Sol Campbell and that he keeps insisting that he's being overlooked because of one reason or another and clubs probably don't want to take the risk of litigation if it doesn't work out and being labelled as something they're not when they sack him.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:11 pm

If Campbell can't see the difference between him and Bellamy then he's never going to get a job.

Bellamy has worked hard coaching wise since ending his playing career and it will be that which gets him the job.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:18 pm

LOL Campbell. If he was that arrogant in the interview no wonder they didn't want him.

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:22 pm

He should get together with Dwight Yorke and form a "Rejected and Useless" society.

Chobulous · Post by **Chobulous** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:24 pm

The last time we had a thread about Sol Campbell I pointed out that in my view he was just lazy, in that he wanted to be given a manager's job without doing the groundwork i.e. getting his coach's badges, working in the lower leagues etc.
This quote says it all:

"I don't want to go too low that it's a struggle, and I don't want to go too low that I'm under someone and thinking 'what am I doing here?' I would rather be managing a club myself."

If you want something in life you have to work for it, you have to show that you deserve it. The Ryan Giggs appointment has probably made Sol Campbell's attitude even worse, but I don't think anyone except the Welsh FA seriously expects anything but disappointment from that appointment.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:24 pm

What an arrogant idiot

With his super intelligent brain he thinks it would only take him 2 or 3 games to get the hang of it !! How insulting is that to every coach and manager in the football leagues who have been working for years to learn their trade ?

The only good thing to come out of that interview is that hopefully he has just ensured that no chairman in his right mind would employ him.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:43 pm

Chobulous wrote: The Ryan Giggs appointment has probably made Sol Campbell's attitude even worse, but I don't think anyone except the Welsh FA seriously expects anything but disappointment from that appointment.

In all fairness the Welsh FA have done well appointing former players with little managerial experience.
Even Coleman worked out well for them after stepping in at a difficult time.

Giggs could, potentially, work out well plus he's spent time working at UTD alongside more experienced managers.

Guich · Post by **Guich** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:45 pm

He must be the most deluded man in football.

Did he not see his old mate Tony Adams who, despite being better qualified, went to 'save' Granada in La Liga last season and steer them to seven consecutive defeats and relegation.

Chaps like Sean Dyche must be at risk of pulling a muscle laughing when they hear this level of tripe.

ps Thanks to UTB for the correction

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:48 pm

to be fair, only one of the greatest minds in football could imagine he's one of the greatest minds in football.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:57 pm

Guich wrote:He must be the most deluded man in football.

Did he not see his old mate Tony Adams who, despite being better qualified, went to 'save' Malaga in La Liga last season and steer them to seven consecutive defeats and relegation.

Chaps like Sean Dyche must be at risk of pulling a muscle laughing when they hear this level of tripe.

That was Granada.

They should never have got rid of Tony Wilson.

Foulthrow · Post by **Foulthrow** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:59 pm

Didn't he try to become a Tory MP at one point?

LeadBelly · Post by **LeadBelly** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:12 pm

He was a very decent centre half & I have no problems that he moved between the N London rivals (which was obviously irksome to Spuds fans). But.... he completely lacks a sense of self-awareness & has shown this trait many times before. The "I'm one of the great minds in football" is utter delusion.

northernpowerhouse · Post by **northernpowerhouse** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:17 pm

He's either borderline mentally ill or the least self-aware man since Donald Trump. For what it's worth I wouldn't be surprised if Bellamy makes a decent manager. It's a total joke that Giggs got the Wales job ahead of him.

bob-the-scutter · Post by **bob-the-scutter** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:31 pm

He'd be better suited as a country & western singer!

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:42 pm

He's already had a job and earned enough money to retire. Society sucks, Sol. You're too good, mate, not too bad.

PWBFC · Post by **PWBFC** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:02 pm

That whole interview is so cringe-worthy.

boiledclaret · Post by **boiledclaret** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:04 pm

Foulthrow wrote:Didn't he try to become a Tory MP at one point?

Quite possibly but they were terrified of his level of arrogance.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:14 pm

Sidney1st wrote:In all fairness the Welsh FA have done well appointing former players with little managerial experience.
Even Coleman worked out well for them after stepping in at a difficult time.

Giggs could, potentially, work out well plus he's spent time working at UTD alongside more experienced managers.

Coleman had managed 300+ games before he became the Wales coach.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:16 pm

This is my favourite Sol Campbell anecdote:

On this occasion [Campbell] wanted the FA’s technical director, Dan Ashworth, to explain why Gary Neville had been fast-tracked through the system to become one of Roy Hodgson’s assistants with the England team. Ashworth started talking about the favorable impression Neville had made on Hodgson and the players and was running through the processes that were involved when Campbell put out his hand to interrupt him. This is when things started to get a little strange.

“But I am Sol Campbell.”

As you might imagine, that isn’t a particularly easy sentence to come back from. Ashworth did his best to continue because, well, what else could he do? But it is fair to say the entire room had been engulfed in awkwardness and when Ashworth stopped talking there was another tumbleweed moment. Campbell, hand out, ended the conversation in the same way he had started it.

“But I am Sol Campbell.”

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:26 pm

"I don't want to go too low that it's a struggle, and I don't want to go too low that I'm under someone and thinking 'what am I doing here?'

No wonder the guy didn't get the job. He has a terrible attitude.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:32 pm

aggi wrote:Coleman had managed 300+ games before he became the Wales coach.

Yes he had but it wasn't a given he'd do so well.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:44 pm

His own words provide every reason as to why he hasn’t been appointed. That level of self importance would hammer a nail in the coffin of any club daft enough to recruit him.

Unless he wakes up and has a serious dose of self reflection, he will do well to get a pundits role, let alone a job managing a professional club.

I’m only surprised that he’s not played the race card, in this instance.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:52 pm

I used to hate that midget Bellamy when he played, I really like him now having watched him numerous times on the Debate. He speaks really well, wouldn't be surprised if he made an excellent manager.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:59 pm

Is it coz I is too intelligent?

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:13 pm

Stick him in with that clown at Billericay Town. They deserve each other

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:17 pm

KRBFC wrote:I used to hate that midget Bellamy when he played, I really like him now having watched him numerous times on the Debate. He speaks really well, wouldn't be surprised if he made an excellent manager.

Isn't Bellamy like 5'7? I'm only 5'9, am I a midget? Boooooo. :'(

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:27 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:Isn't Bellamy like 5'7? I'm only 5'9, am I a midget? Boooooo. :'(

He looked shorter because he walked with a hunchback

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:46 pm

He may be correct although there will plenty of jobs available in the near future, infact Cotts maybe on borrowed time along with Coleman.

gtclaret · Post by **gtclaret** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:09 pm

Foulthrow wrote:Didn't he try to become a Tory MP at one point?

No, he became a Tory candidate to represent them for the Election for the London Mayor. He gave a car crash interview on the Local radio(I think it is available on YouTube). Needless to say, he was the first person to drop out.

CharlieinNewMexico · Post by **CharlieinNewMexico** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:13 pm

Didn't he sign for massive money at notts county and then leave after one game 'because he didn't want to be there'

gtclaret · Post by **gtclaret** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:16 pm

On the subject of coaching experience, some highly regarded coaches in the past, have failed miserably as a manager. I'm thinking of Brian Kidd, Don Howe, Malcome Allison and Paul Clement. It does appear to be two completely different jobs.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:20 pm

same intelligent bloke that couldn't get his head around earning a boat load of cash at Notts County. Self appointed prick who should go get his coaching badges and start at the bottom.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:47 pm

CharlieinNewMexico wrote:Didn't he sign for massive money at notts county and then leave after one game 'because he didn't want to be there'

I think he was out of contract when he signed for Notts County. Remember he was on a reported £25k a week which was a lot of money then (and now !)

CharlieinNewMexico · Post by **CharlieinNewMexico** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:56 pm

gtclaret wrote:On the subject of coaching experience, some highly regarded coaches in the past, have failed miserably as a manager. I'm thinking of Brian Kidd, Don Howe, Malcome Allison and Paul Clement. It does appear to be two completely different jobs.

It's like asking the guy who's been on the production line for 25 years and knows the job inside and out to suddenly sit in an office and be production manager. It's a completely different skill set.

otto1959 · Post by **otto1959** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:30 pm

Married very much above his station too.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:46 pm

KRBFC wrote:I used to hate that midget Bellamy when he played, I really like him now having watched him numerous times on the Debate. He speaks really well, wouldn't be surprised if he made an excellent manager.

When he has been on the debate show with anyone who knows what they are talking about , Bellamy has sounded a right buffoon.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:46 am

Didnt he try to extract money from no cash Pompey long after hed stopped playing for them.Despite being super rich from a very lucrative playing career.Fair play though Ive never heard of this non entity playing the race card in his winges about not getting a job in management

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:26 am

Guich wrote:He must be the most deluded man in football.

Did he not see his old mate Tony Adams who, despite being better qualified, went to 'save' Granada in La Liga last season and steer them to seven consecutive defeats and relegation.

Chaps like Sean Dyche must be at risk of pulling a muscle laughing when they hear this level of tripe.

ps Thanks to UTB for the correction

Your famous mate...

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Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:28 am

Not quoted you properly there. I’d take them to court.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:11 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:Didnt he try to extract money from no cash Pompey long after hed stopped playing for them.Despite being super rich from a very lucrative playing career.Fair play though Ive never heard of this non entity playing the race card in his winges about not getting a job in management

Well they owed him the money, it was in his contract. It wasn't his fault that Portsmouth were financially mismanaged.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:38 am

aggi wrote:This is my favourite Sol Campbell anecdote:

On this occasion [Campbell] wanted the FA’s technical director, Dan Ashworth, to explain why Gary Neville had been fast-tracked through the system to become one of Roy Hodgson’s assistants with the England team. Ashworth started talking about the favorable impression Neville had made on Hodgson and the players and was running through the processes that were involved when Campbell put out his hand to interrupt him. This is when things started to get a little strange.

“But I am Sol Campbell.”

As you might imagine, that isn’t a particularly easy sentence to come back from. Ashworth did his best to continue because, well, what else could he do? But it is fair to say the entire room had been engulfed in awkwardness and when Ashworth stopped talking there was another tumbleweed moment. Campbell, hand out, ended the conversation in the same way he had started it.

“But I am Sol Campbell.”

amazing. never read that before.