Jordan Pickford

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:43 pm

Hold my hands up. Never rated him. He was pheonomenal today. But for him it could have been 5 or 6.

watsonsclarets · Post by **watsonsclarets** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:45 pm

Error with both goals.

He blocked himself off for the 2nd.

BurningBeard · Post by **BurningBeard** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:45 pm

Terrible starting position for Ash's goal. Not that I'm arsed.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:49 pm

Fantastic shot stopper, doesn't command his penalty box like Pope though.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:51 pm

he's conceded more goals than any other goalkeeper in the PL today after our winner.......

claretcarrot93 · Post by **claretcarrot93** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:52 pm

He was at fault for both of the goals

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:53 pm

He'll be on the plane.
For me Butland, Pickford, Pope. If Hart is anywhere near Southgate needs his head seeing to.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:53 pm

Potential to be world class, but he has errors in him. His distribution is magnificent as his shot stopping, decision making and command of area though seem poor.

A mixture of Pope’s penalty area dominance and Pickford’s kicking and you have a De Gea/Neuer level goalkeeper. I guess that’s why they play for Wverton and Burnley!

dpinsussex · Post by **dpinsussex** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:54 pm

Blackrod wrote:He'll be on the plane.
For me Butland, Pickford, Pope. If Hart is anywhere near Southgate needs his head seeing to.

For me butland heaton and pope

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:05 pm

Made some superb reaction saves but also made some basic errors with regards to positioning. Hell learn no doubt.

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:20 pm

Good game - but he's not Nick Pope

fungus_the_bogeyman · Post by **fungus_the_bogeyman** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:27 pm

Did those choosing Butland not see his error last week?

JimmyMac'sMate · Post by **JimmyMac'sMate** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:31 pm

Don't get carried away everybody because we had a great win pope is not a better goalkeeper than Pickford end off utc

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:32 pm

Bizarre.

He was at fault for both goals.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:43 pm

claretcarrot93 wrote:He was at fault for both of the goals

The defenders were at fault for Wood's goal.

They were all over the place and not one of them picked him up.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:45 pm

How can anyone blame him for Barnes goal?

Couldnt see Woods goal clearly enough to comment from the cfs.

His save from Barnes header was top class.

BurningBeard · Post by **BurningBeard** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:59 pm

Poor starting position and didn't come out to close the shooting angle. Gave Barnes the whole goal to aim at. Defending was awful but so was the goalkeeping.

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:59 pm

For Barnes's goal you need to question whether he should have come out or not. He didn't and we scored. Later with a similar chance he came out and smothered Barnes's effort.

I don't blame him for the second goal. His defence, notably Williams, was at fault.

The save from Barnes's header was good but I would expect a save there.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:04 pm

dpinsussex wrote:For me butland heaton and pope

Really?? Id take Lindegaard over Butland

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:12 pm

According to Jamie Redknapp on Sky.
He went back from the edge of his area to his goal line and when Ash hit the ball it was in the 6yd box. He showed Ederson for City last week, in a similar position, and he came out and cleared.
For the second he said he allowed himself to get physical with Ward giving himself no chance of getting to the cross from the corner. They also criticised Williams for pointing out Wood was free but not doing enough about it.

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:19 pm

piston broke wrote: For the second he said he allowed himself to get physical with Ward giving himself no chance of getting to the cross from the corner. They also criticised Williams for pointing out Wood was free but not doing enough about it.

I think this is an often overlooked area of Ward's play that we have missed whilst he has been out of the team. He is excellent at blocking their keeper without ever - I don't think - being penalised by the referee. No surprise for me that we have scored from a corner now that he is back.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:23 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:I think this is an often overlooked area of Ward's play that we have missed whilst he has been out of the team. He is excellent at blocking their keeper without ever - I don't think - being penalised by the referee. No surprise for me that we have scored from a corner now that he is back.

True. Nobody does it better.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:24 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:How can anyone blame him for Barnes goal?

Couldnt see Woods goal clearly enough to comment from the cfs.

His save from Barnes header was top class.

He moved from edge of area (good position) back into goal (poor position)

Comparison with Ederson who advanced rather than retreating against Arsenal in similar situation.

The Sky team (Henry and Redknapp blamed him)

*As mentioned eaier by piston broke

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:24 pm

Poor positioning for the first goal and shocking goalkeeping for the second. Made two very smart saves but ones that I would expect any keeper to make at this level.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 4:25 pm

For second goal he was so focused on Ward he forgot about the basics of goalkeeping, but Williams failed to mark Wood properly.

bob-the-scutter · Post by **bob-the-scutter** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:08 pm

piston broke wrote:True. Nobody does it better.

Makes me feel sad for the rest!

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:10 pm

Dreadful for first. Routine saves otherwise.

bob-the-scutter · Post by **bob-the-scutter** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:11 pm

JimmyMac'sMate wrote:Don't get carried away everybody because we had a great win pope is not a better goalkeeper than Pickford end off utc

How can you be so wrong and also not punctuate?

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:13 pm

So which one would Southgate have been most impressed with watching today's match?

Spike · Post by **Spike** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:16 pm

Not a patch on Pope or Heaton too small too limited

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:24 pm

makes saves for the cameras and very little else.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:41 pm

Makes saves look good, and most of them today were routine.
Pope makes all those, and probably conceeds 1 at best if in Evertons goal...

holdyourfire · Post by **holdyourfire** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:54 pm

bob-the-scutter wrote:Makes me feel sad for the rest!

Baby your the best.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:57 pm

Firthy wrote:So which one would Southgate have been most impressed with watching today's match?

Well Pope wasn't at fault for a goal. So Pope.

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:09 pm

All goalkeepers at this level make great saves. For me, the best keepers are the ones who rarely make mistakes. Pickford appears to have technical difficiencies and makes too many errors.

I think Heaton is still the best of the lot but I can’t see him playing enough football between now and the end of the season to make the World Cup squad.

bfcmik · Post by **bfcmik** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:50 pm

Pope's fingertip save last week against Southampton was at least as good, if not better, than Pickford's save from Barnes today. Pickford looks like a great if 'showy' shot stopper but has poor command of his goal area. I wish Pope had his ability when it comes to ball distribution though!

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:51 pm

I think it speaks volumes, when, IMO, he was their best player.

He kept the score lower than it perhaps should have been. 3 or 4-1 I don't think would have been too OTT.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:53 pm

Annoying overrated show pony.

MrClaretandBlue · Post by **MrClaretandBlue** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:54 pm

Show pony. Great at the camera saves but shite at everything else

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:58 pm

MrClaretandBlue wrote:Show pony. Great at the camera saves but shite at everything else

Was it 30 million ? Ouch!

ayrshireclaret83 · Post by **ayrshireclaret83** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:09 pm

His kicking/distribution was dreadful today

Great shot stopper tho

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:11 pm

Definitely stayed on his line too long for Barnes’ goal.

Some good stops though.

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:05 am

Made some good saves but in the final analysis he was at fault for both our goals.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:28 am

The most agile of all the keepers. However, positioning often demands that agility to its max, rather than a more simple save.

Heaton is best at positioning.

Pope is good at positioning, great on crosses and his length reaches the spots even the agile can't make.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:37 am

Couldn't understand the praise he got for the save from Ben Mee.
He pushed it back into the danger area, Wood could have scored, when it was easier to flick it over the bar.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:42 am

He’s way too short to be a top keeper and concedes too many

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:58 pm

joey13 wrote:He’s way too short to be a top keeper and concedes too many

That would have ruled out Gordon Banks at Stoke (who was the same height), but in Pickford's case I agree with you.

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:13 pm

£30m quid... whats Pope worth?!?!

I don't think there's enough money in the world!

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:48 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Hold my hands up. Never rated him. He was pheonomenal today. But for him it could have been 5 or 6.

spot on cricketfields, strange how so many are suddenly goalkeeping experts having watched MOTD !!
this out of position stuff is laughable .

Shore claret · Post by **Shore claret** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 8:11 pm

I thought he looked average, I thought his kicking was poor he seems to cut across everything which is strange.
It's the modern way for goalkeepers to make average saves look like wonder saves,l.