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Their goal....

Post by StuffyClaret » Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:58 pm

....For me, a good example of why we should leave somebody up when the opponent has a corner. We won possession from their corner but then JBG had no options to pass to and promptly lost the ball which then resulted in them scoring.

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Re: Their goal....

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:59 pm

Not to mention the threat someone like Lennon would pose

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Re: Their goal....

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:00 pm

StuffyClaret wrote:....For me, a good example of why we should leave somebody up when the opponent has a corner. We won possession from their corner but then JBG had no options to pass to and promptly lost the ball which then resulted in them scoring.
JBG had the option of a simple pass to Aaron Lennon - you can choose whether the pass was poor or Lennon was poor but it was that pass failing to reach its target that cost us.

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Re: Their goal....

Post by MDWat » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:01 pm

ClaretTony wrote:JBG had the option of a simple pass to Aaron Lennon - you can choose whether the pass was poor or Lennon was poor but it was that pass failing to reach its target that cost us.
A mixture of the two, I think.

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Re: Their goal....

Post by StuffyClaret » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:04 pm

ClaretTony wrote:JBG had the option of a simple pass to Aaron Lennon - you can choose whether the pass was poor or Lennon was poor but it was that pass failing to reach its target that cost us.

Lennon only became an option as we tried to move out. A player left up front would have given JBG an immediate option

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Re: Their goal....

Post by MACCA » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:05 pm

I screamed this at 2-1 with 5 to play. Leave lennon on half way occupies 2 defenders. However they ambled up to cause a threat.

Never mind we got the victory, but it seemed we invited 2 extra bodies than needed into a goal scoring position.

Not like Lennon adds much defensive wise.

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Re: Their goal....

Post by MDWat » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:07 pm

Dyche has never left anyone up at corners

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Post by nil_desperandum » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:13 pm

MACCA wrote:I screamed this at 2-1 with 5 to play. Leave lennon on half way occupies 2 defenders. However they ambled up to cause a threat.

Never mind we got the victory, but it seemed we invited 2 extra bodies than needed into a goal scoring position.

Not like Lennon adds much defensive wise.
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I agree, but I understand that the theory is that we want as much congestion in our box as possible to minimise their movement and reduce the amount of space.
I've always felt however that leaving a tricky pacey player on the half way line is the better option so we have an out-ball and a chance to catch them on the break.

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Post by Cirrus_Minor » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:20 pm

I thought we were sloppy all round for their goal, not like us at all.

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Post by Caernarfon_Claret » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:27 pm

ClaretTony wrote:JBG had the option of a simple pass to Aaron Lennon - you can choose whether the pass was poor or Lennon was poor but it was that pass failing to reach its target that cost us.

I blame both of them and marked them down 1 point accordingly.

Also think Tarks could have done better when the cross came in.

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Post by Spijed » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:37 pm

MDWat wrote:Dyche has never left anyone up at corners
Hardly any manager does as it very rarely makes any difference, if at all.

If it did you'd be seeing a lot more sides with a player on the half way line.

Many teams are so quick they can easily break in numbers from the edge of their own area. Remember our goal against Palace last season at home?
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Re: Their goal....

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:47 pm

Man City have everyone back to defend corners. I’m not sure why people are so obsessed with this idea.

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Re: Their goal....

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:11 pm

StuffyClaret wrote:Lennon only became an option as we tried to move out. A player left up front would have given JBG an immediate option
It wasn't a corner either was it? Wasn't it a free kick taken by Sigurdsson?

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Re: Their goal....

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:11 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Man City have everyone back to defend corners. I’m not sure why people are so obsessed with this idea.
If it was a corner, I don't understand the obsession either. Virtually all teams pull everyone back. They are there to be defended.
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Re: Their goal....

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:38 pm

Because its a tactic that we could clearly use to our advantage.

One forward leaves keeper back, 2 to mark our 1 and 1 taking corner. Meaning we can pose a threat on the break and outnumber them 10 to 7 in the box. Its nothard to fathom really.

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Post by claret59 » Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:40 pm

Sometimes though it just needs a big boot up the field. It may result in loss of possession but buys a bit of time for the defence to get sorted. You could tell what was very likely to happen when JBG passed to a player who was marked and likely to be crowded out.

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Post by Flat Stanley » Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:59 pm

Agree was a silly pass to make should have booted it down field as there was nothing on. Lennon had too many men around him. Hendrick also let his man go who put the cross in after we lost the ball which was poor.

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Post by CaptJohn » Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:02 pm

JBG mistake IMHO. Poor pass to Lennon. He should have cleared upfield and allowed the team to reshape and forced Everton back. The mistake left all their players in attacking positions and ultimately the goal which was pretty tidy.

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Post by IndigoLake » Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:03 pm

I thought Lennon was pushed off the ball too easily. Don't think there was much wrong with Gudmundsson's pass but I'd have to see it again.

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