Angus Gunn to be called up over Pope.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:29 am

According to the twitter rumblings.

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:32 am

Who the **** is he?

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:33 am

Man City keeper, on loan at Norwich, been with the England squad previously.

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:35 am

He sounds like a cut of beef.

Juan Tanamera · Post by **Juan Tanamera** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:36 am

The same Angus Gunn who conceded 4 today against relegation threatened Hull City (albeit two goals were pens)?
In a lower league team?
And then people think we're paranoid/No one likes us.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:40 am

Spiral wrote:Who the **** is he?

Exactly.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:40 am

What a load of old bollix.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:40 am

I think it to keep with the consistency of the same players, he's been involved we before due to injuries. Heaton was called up in the championship to be fair cause he'd been involved before.

It's crap for Pope but I think the logic is consistency. Hart hasn't played as much first team football, so it looks like its gonna be Butland, Pickford and Gunn

MT03ALG · Post by **MT03ALG** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:41 am

Gordon Banks may have a chance before Pope.....

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:45 am

MT03ALG wrote:Gordon Banks may have a chance before Pope.....

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:49 am

Juan Tanamera wrote:The same Angus Gunn who conceded 4 today against relegation threatened Hull City (albeit two goals were pens)?
In a lower league team?
And then people think we're paranoid/No one likes us.

So what if he let four in. How many did Heaton let in for Bristol?

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:52 am

Lots of goals

But then he signed for Burnley, and grew a pair of balls
At crosses shots and corners, he takes them in his stride
AND WHEN IT COMES TO PENALTIES THE STRIKER IS DENIED

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:52 am

With Tarks there, England wont even need a goalkeeper

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:13 am

DCWat wrote:So what if he let four in. How many did Heaton let in for Bristol?

What's that got to do with owt?
Heatons not in the running for a call up.

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:17 am

DCWat wrote:So what if he let four in. How many did Heaton let in for Bristol?

Can't remember Heaton letting 4 in for Bristol and then being called up for the England squad though either ....

JohnMcGreal · Post by **JohnMcGreal** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:42 am

Pope has possibly been the best English goalkeeper this season. He's certainly in the top three. He deserves to be called up along with Butland and Pickford.

If Gunn is selected ahead of any of those three, it will send a very poor message.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:52 am

Juan Tanamera wrote:The same Angus Gunn who conceded 4 today against relegation threatened Hull City (albeit two goals were pens)?
In a lower league team?
And then people think we're paranoid/No one likes us.

I don't think it matters how many goals you concede in 1 game, well I hope the England manager doesn't pick his squad based on 1 game anyway. I know Southgate likes to work with the players he had in his U21 squad and that's probably why Gunn was called up last time over Pope.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 2:46 am

if Southcrap doesn't pick Pope for the friendlies then I'll bump my Southcrap out post I made the day he was appointed

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 2:49 am

Vegas Claret wrote:if Southcrap doesn't pick Pope for the friendlies then I'll bump my Southcrap out post I made the day he was appointed

I guess he's the next best thing, behind me

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 2:55 am

FactualFrank wrote:I guess he's the next best thing, behind me

not even close to you FF

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:25 am

Shame for Pope but Gunn has been outstanding this season. Hopefully Pope’s time will come.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:28 am

Involved before or not, picking a kid at a Championship club over the in-form keeper in the top flight is frankly bizarre.

I assume the ultimate idea is to have three goalkeepers at the World Cup who can be relied on if needed. On that basis, surely it’s the guy who has had a great season at the highest domestic level you want to be getting used to the England set-up.

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:37 am

Tricky one to be honest. I think Gunn will be the better of the two as time goes on. Pope has been better than Butland and Pickford this season though. They are more likely the two he’s competing with. Gunn is one for the future. I’m more disappointed for Heaton. If he didn’t get injured, there’s every chance he’d be number 1.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:44 am

Just because someone saw something on Twitter doesn't mean it's true.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:47 am

fidelcastro wrote:Just because someone saw something on Twitter doesn't mean it's true.

It's Southgate

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:57 am

Vegas Claret wrote:It's Southgate

I'm confused now.

Is Southgate on twitter, saying that he's going to pick Gunn over Pope?

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:59 am

fidelcastro wrote:I'm confused now.

Is Southgate on twitter, saying that he's going to pick Gunn over Pope?

No, it's Southgate - I fully expect him to take Joe Hart and some ******* kid from the Championship.

Southgate out

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:01 am

Vegas Claret wrote:No, it's Southgate - I fully expect him to take Joe Hart and some ******* kid from the Championship.

Southgate out

So, he hasn't said that then?

Thought not.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:17 am

There's not many players in football or cricket that play full international that haven't played age group international.
It's very clicky.

AngleseyClaret · Post by **AngleseyClaret** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:41 am

If Gunn gets a call it's because they don't want Scotland to have him. His dad was Scotland keeper.

CharlieinNewMexico · Post by **CharlieinNewMexico** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:46 am

Do friendlies count to eliminate someone from another country? Thought it was just competitives

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:50 am

Not boding well for Russia.

An inexperienced Championship Number 3 no doubt picked for experience to help him in 2022, and choices 1 and 2 have had goals whizzing past them all season, so confidence will be low.

Add to that the central defence, which is shambolic, Cahill will probably start due to a lack of others and he has a lack of match practice. Both positions will be worse than anything we have had in recent memory.

Let’s be honest, we are going to get taken apart as soon as we hit the knock out stages. Selecting someone like Pope or Tarks from left field, high on confidence, just might have done it, but Southgate isn’t an original thinker nor a risk taker. I’m losing interest in Russia already.

RocketLawnChair · Post by **RocketLawnChair** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:06 am

CrosspoolClarets wrote:Not boding well for Russia.

An inexperienced Championship Number 3 no doubt picked for experience to help him in 2022, and choices 1 and 2 have had goals whizzing past them all season, so confidence will be low.

Add to that the central defence, which is shambolic, Cahill will probably start due to a lack of others and he has a lack of match practice. Both positions will be worse than anything we have had in recent memory.

Let’s be honest, we are going to get taken apart as soon as we hit the knock out stages. Selecting someone like Pope or Tarks from left field, high on confidence, just might have done it, but Southgate isn’t an original thinker nor a risk taker. I’m losing interest in Russia already.

I will lose even more interest if they pick Glenn ******* Murray

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:32 am

Surprising decision, but bearing in mind that Southgate has decided to use the U-21s as a stepping stone to the first team (which is how its supposed to work) not as daft as it looks.

Still think Pope should get a look in though

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:35 am

He'll probably stick with Michael Keane - someone else he worked with at U21.

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:38 am

Maybe we should wait till it happens, before we go into full meltdown, rather than fretting over ‘twitter rumblings’?

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:42 am

Today's sun says pope will get called up, no mention of gunn

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:45 am

If Southgate has a particular doubt over Pope, it will be around his kicking, which probably isn't currently good enough for an international keeper. Mind You, that was also true of Fraser Forster.

Pope has come a long way very quickly. It may do him no harm if international honours don't come immediately.

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Melbourneclaret · Post by **Melbourneclaret** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:55 am

Surely this can’t be true. If so, it’s ridiculous that Southgate would pick Gunn over Pope. Pope has shown himself to be an excellent keeper, playing at the very highest level, against some of the best strikers in the world. He’s also been consistent for several months. Gunn is totally untested at the highest level and it would border of negligence if Southgate picked him.

box_of_frogs · Post by **box_of_frogs** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:58 am

Darthlaw wrote:Maybe we should wait till it happens, before we go into full meltdown, rather than fretting over ‘twitter rumblings’?

This ^^^^^

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:16 am

Best keeper in the Premier league more clean sheets but then Southgate doesn't appear able to pick from form just from media hype .Tammy useless lump Abraham has England caps and that says it all

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:26 am

I think he will call Pope up. But I can see the logic in calling up Gunn as number 3. Chances of playing at the world cup are limited for number 3 keepers but still gives a young keeper of the future exposure to what goes on and experience of a tournament. Its not just the game itself they can learn from.

If he wants to call Gunn up though imo he should call Pope up along with Pickford. He knows Butland.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:34 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:Best keeper in the Premier league more clean sheets but then Southgate doesn't appear able to pick from form just from media hype .Tammy useless lump Abraham has England caps and that says it all

Totally agree cos over the last few months all ive heard in the media is Angus Gunn this Angus Gunn that and Pope hasnt had so much as a footnote written about him....oh wait.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:48 am

Pope deserves a call up. He is facing top players week in week out. His stats are good. Personally would call Tark Mee and Pope up.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 10:21 am

Is this something to do with the American Gunn lobby I keep hearing about on the tele ?

BleedingClaret · Post by **BleedingClaret** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 10:21 am

Wouldn’t surprise me if Hart played
with Butland and Forster as back up
With Pickford lauded as the future

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 10:32 am

Alan Rough has got as much chance of making the England squad as Fraser Forster

Foulthrow · Post by **Foulthrow** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 10:42 am

So, Southgate is going to call up two players that their own club don't want?

3putt · Post by **3putt** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 10:42 am

Pearcey wrote:Tricky one to be honest. I think Gunn will be the better of the two as time goes on. Pope has been better than Butland and Pickford this season though. They are more likely the two he’s competing with. Gunn is one for the future. I’m more disappointed for Heaton. If he didn’t get injured, there’s every chance he’d be number 1.

"I think Gunn will be the better of the two as time goes on".

Out of interest what makes you think that? Pope has been absolutely fantastic since unexpectedly coming into the side. With no experience whatsoever at this level, he has been one of the top keepers in the Prem this season. Still very young with the potential to get even better.

Pope is an outstanding keeper and likely to be a regular for England in the future.