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Shelvey

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:15 pm

If Newcastle go down who would take Shelvey,he's a hothead but a massive talent,could he be the answer to the no10 position,would love him at the Turf.

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Re: Shelvey

Post by conyoviejo » Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:25 pm

Don't think Newcastle will go down..

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Re: Shelvey

Post by CFS » Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:27 pm

Yes from me along with ward Prowse and Dawson.

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Re: Shelvey

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:29 pm

Newcastle won't go down, but yes, I'd have him here.

Not sure he's best as a number 10 though. Best played as a ball playing central midfielder, like Gerrard was.

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Re: Shelvey

Post by Squarepusher » Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:30 pm

Not for me. Can't really see him being prepared to put Dyche levels of effort in.
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Re: Shelvey

Post by Chester Perry » Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:55 pm

Squarepusher wrote:Not for me. Can't really see him being prepared to put Dyche levels of effort in.
I can see him putting the effort in, but not the discipline of playing for Sean though

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Re: Shelvey

Post by Blackrod » Sun Mar 11, 2018 4:14 pm

Newcastle's best player by a country mile. Although Kennedy isn't too bad.

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Re: Shelvey

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Mar 11, 2018 4:16 pm

Blackrod wrote:Although Kennedy isn't too bad.
On loan from Chelsea. But I agree - a good player.

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Re: Shelvey

Post by MACCA » Sun Mar 11, 2018 4:54 pm

No thanks

Even more of a no thanks for the number 10 . Has he even ever played there

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Re: Shelvey

Post by Colburn_Claret » Sun Mar 11, 2018 5:29 pm

Never

I remember the first Claret he went through on loan at Blackpool. The prats never changed since.
He isn't hard, just nasty and petty. SD wouldn't tolerate him.

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Re: Shelvey

Post by NL Claret » Sun Mar 11, 2018 5:36 pm

Didn't MOTD highlight him the other week just totally switching off and been miles out of position when I think Bournemouth scored against them. He doesn't fit the Dyche system nor the Dyche test.
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Re: Shelvey

Post by Sidney1st » Sun Mar 11, 2018 5:40 pm

I can think of £80k reasons why we wouldn't sign Shelvey.

That and I think Dyche would end up decking him..

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Re: Shelvey

Post by NL Claret » Sun Mar 11, 2018 5:45 pm

Dyche wouldn't deck any player, he would psychologically deck them though.

Reading a book called on the brink atm, quality read, in the book Joe Royle says how recruitment then management are the most important things. Coaching comes 3rd.

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Re: Shelvey

Post by claretabroad » Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:40 pm

red card waiting to happen.

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Re: Shelvey

Post by MDWat » Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:42 pm

Has 4 good games a season. 34 (minus suspensions) passenger games

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Re: Shelvey

Post by Roosterbooster » Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:48 pm

Excellent on his day. England potential. But wouldn’t want him anywhere near our club

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Re: Shelvey

Post by KRBFC » Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:55 pm

Not sure he'd fit, similar to Defour and I'd rather have Stevie D as excellent as Shelvey is. From the relegated teams I'd have a couple though, Ollie Burke and Claudio Yacob from WBA. Mawson and Fer from Swansea. Sims, Stephens and Cedric from Soton.
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Re: Shelvey

Post by timshorts » Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:59 pm

Lejeune being fit again and having a goalkeeper of premier league standard has turned them around. Kenedy looks inconsistent. Dummett has been a bit of a surprise too. Seems to have improved considerably- although that might be because of the change in those around him - rather the inverse of Keane at Everton.

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Re: Shelvey

Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:01 pm

I would take a punt on him for sure.

Dyche could definitely sort him out and he’d be a fan favourite. We’re short a tough midfielder.

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Re: Shelvey

Post by Darnhill Claret » Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:05 pm

Hope he goes to Russia.

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Re: Shelvey

Post by Belgianclaret » Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:38 pm

He's not a number 10

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Re: Shelvey

Post by claretspice » Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:52 pm

He's an idiot. Not my cup of tea.

And not a number 10 either.

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Re: Shelvey

Post by jrgbfc » Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:56 pm

He's a very good player, but he'll be on too much money for us, and we already have Defour, Cork and Westwood in that position.

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Re: Shelvey

Post by Spijed » Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:58 pm

Who would have thought Joey Barton would have the right mentality or temperament to play for SD?

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Re: Shelvey

Post by welsbyswife » Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:45 pm

He’s a wrong un. Wouldn’t go anywhere near him. Different to Joey. He was a wrong un but he has some brains so was capable of turning it round with a bit of encouragement and an omelette or two. Don’t think the same can be said of Shelvey.

Plus, I never like a player who sets a goal up and then turns to celebrate with the crowd himself instead of running to join in the celebrations with the goal scorer and the rest of the team. He did that yesterday i noticed. Says to me that he’s not a team player and thinks the world revolves around him.

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Re: Shelvey

Post by what_no_pies » Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:55 pm

Newcastle opinion seems to be that he can be best player on the pitch but more often he'll be no better than average and occasionally dire. Add his wages and that he's a head case into the equation and look elsewhere.

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Re: Shelvey

Post by claretabroad » Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:31 am

I should also add to my earlier point that one of the reasons that liverpool shipped him out was because he kept on injuring players in training.

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Re: Shelvey

Post by wilks_bfc » Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:38 am

Darnhill Claret wrote:Hope he goes to Russia.
The only way he’ll go to Russia is as security for the rest of the squad

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Re: Shelvey

Post by dermotdermot » Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:07 am

Too bald.

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Re: Shelvey

Post by Falcon » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:19 pm

Assuming none of us have ever met him, we really have no idea about his temperament, work ethic and mentality. If anyone can sort out a 'wrong un' then I trust SD could do it.

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Re: Shelvey

Post by lucs86 » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:42 pm

Decent CM, not a no.10 (would struggle in our version of that no.10 role more than Hendrick). If we had him he'd be competing for a starting place with Defour and probably coming out 2nd best. If Newcastle did go down (looking less likely after the Southampton win) he'd be going to an Everton, Leicester, West Ham, for a £20M+ fee and a fat wage.

Lascelles and Ritchie could be more realistic targets but probably on the expensive side of what's realistic for us.

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Re: Shelvey

Post by KateR » Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:03 pm

I would like however like many here I do not think Newcastle will go down and if they did it would be a big asking price we would mostly likely not be willing to meet.

However we are safe and it is good we can start debating these kinds of subjects with certainty, given the last 2 seasons and what ahs gone so far we will be a much improved prospect for many players, particularly if we had the Europa Cup to play in. Going to be a long time players and transfers will be analyzed and argued over, which can only be a good thing in my opinion :)

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Re: Shelvey

Post by claretspice » Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:08 pm

Spijed wrote:Who would have thought Joey Barton would have the right mentality or temperament to play for SD?
I think this comparison is getting a bit too much air time, every time we're linked with a character who has had some form of disciplinary/attitude problem. In itself, the fact that Dyche has taken one player with a dodgy disciplinary record and turned him around is no guarantee that it will happen again. Its a bit like entering a lottery on the basis you've won it once so it follows that you'll win it again.

But more particularly, Barton was different. There were loads of reasons for Barton's issues down the years, but to boil it down, he'd never really caused a problem in a team he felt was professional and giving everything to the cause, so Dyche could be reasonably confident that Burnley's culture was one he could thrive in. Nothing in Shelvey's record suggests the same. He's just a bit of a fool who can't control his temper and who doesn't really care enough about the damage his suspensions do to his team.

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Re: Shelvey

Post by Walton » Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:10 pm

Shelvey is like a less professional Kevin McDonald

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Re: Shelvey

Post by Steve1956 » Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:38 pm

Thanks for the input guys...that will be a no then :) ...we move on!

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Re: Shelvey

Post by Sausage » Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:24 pm

welsbyswife wrote:Plus, I never like a player who sets a goal up and then turns to celebrate with the crowd himself instead of running to join in the celebrations with the goal scorer and the rest of the team.
Ross Wallace did exactly that after he'd set up Danny Ings' winner at Ewood. No hard feelings from me.

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