If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

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If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

Post by Spijed » Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:38 am

With Crystal Palace, just for guiding them to safety then surely SD has got to get it this season for what he's done with us.

A far greater achievement than something many managers do each season.

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Re: If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

Post by whiffa » Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:43 am

I think were it not for Pep Guardiola, Sean would win hands down. City have run away with the league and as a result Pep will win PL Manager of the Year.

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Re: If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:45 am

If it is not Pep this year then there is something seriously wrong

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Re: If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

Post by Spijed » Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:47 am

ClaretTony wrote:If it is not Pep this year then there is something seriously wrong
But how on earth did Pulis win it?

Hardly a fantastic achievement

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Re: If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

Post by A.Claret.Fan » Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:51 am

BUT...He was fined and warned over his yellow ribbon. Surely a black mark to sully his standing.

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Re: If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:53 am

Spijed wrote:But how on earth did Pulis win it?

Hardly a fantastic achievement
Probably because he turned round a club that looked absolutely certain to go down, his record there that season was outstanding, and certainly because the other managers voted for him.

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Re: If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

Post by IanMcL » Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:08 pm

Guardiola for sure. He has changed the style of a football team and won the prem by a distance.

Our man sticks to defying gravity and miracles. Reward enough!

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Re: If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

Post by TheFamilyCat » Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:11 pm

Marco Silva.

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Re: If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

Post by piston broke » Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:48 pm

And where is Pulls now?
Winning that award would only raise SDs already high standing and bring his departure nearer.
Pep can have it for me but we'll know who deserved it.
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Re: If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

Post by BOYSIE31 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:49 pm

ClaretTony wrote:If it is not Pep this year then there is something seriously wrong
Why he has only spent £500 million ?

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Re: If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

Post by Goobs » Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:49 pm

Has to be Guardiola, not only has he team won the league by some margin (Barring an epic crash), but they are on for potentially record breaking numbers (points and goals) and have made every other team in the "big 6" look ordinary / scared / poor in comparison at least once.

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Re: If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

Post by Spijed » Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:01 pm

I'm still puzzled as to why Pulis won it.

Surely it should ALWAYS go to the winning manager, Pep in this case. However, the achievements of Pulis are no greater than that of SD, and if he can win it then so can SD.

If someone took over West Brom from Pardew and managed to save them, would that make them the manager of the year?

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Re: If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:21 pm

Spijed wrote:I'm still puzzled as to why Pulis won it.

Surely it should ALWAYS go to the winning manager, Pep in this case. However, the achievements of Pulis are no greater than that of SD, and if he can win it then so can SD.

If someone took over West Brom from Pardew and managed to save them, would that make them the manager of the year?
Pulis did an incredible rescue operation at Palace from them seemingly looking dead. He impressed the other managers and won it. Sean Dyche didn't even get Championship manager of the year when we won it.

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Re: If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

Post by Spijed » Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:27 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Sean Dyche didn't even get Championship manager of the year when we won it.
Forgotten they'd awarded that to a manager that didn't even get promoted!

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Re: If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

Post by Tall Paul » Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:33 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Pulis did an incredible rescue operation at Palace from them seemingly looking dead. He impressed the other managers and won it. Sean Dyche didn't even get Championship manager of the year when we won it.
They were just three points behind the team in 17th with 26 games to go when he was appointed Palace manager, hardly dead.

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Re: If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

Post by UpTheBeehole » Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:45 pm

Tall Paul wrote:They were just three points behind the team in 17th with 26 games to go when he was appointed Palace manager, hardly dead.
It's not as though he scraped keeping them up, he took them from a team which had won once all season to finishing 11th, and also performed an amazing turnaround to stop Liverpool from winning the title.

That deserves it in itself.

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Re: If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

Post by Tall Paul » Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:56 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:It's not as though he scraped keeping them up, he took them from a team which had won once all season to finishing 11th, and also performed an amazing turnaround to stop Liverpool from winning the title.

That deserves it in itself.
I didn't say he didn't deserve it, I said that Palace were hardly dead when he took over.

Also, before he was appointed they'd won two games, not one, and they didn't stop Liverpool winning the title, even if Liverpool had won that game they'd have still finished second.

One out of three isn't bad I suppose.

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Re: If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

Post by UpTheBeehole » Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:58 pm

Tall Paul wrote:I didn't say he didn't deserve it, I said that Palace were hardly dead when he took over.

Also, before he was appointed they'd won two games, not one, and they didn't stop Liverpool winning the title, even if Liverpool had won that game they'd have still finished second.

One out of three isn't bad I suppose.
They'd lost 10 out of 12 league games.

That's pretty dead.

Don't know where you got your 'won 2 games' from. Pulis was appointed 23/11/13, the day they won their second game.
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Re: If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

Post by thelaughingclaret » Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:00 pm

Pep will win it for sure. What he has done with a limited budget is remarkable. No other manger on earth could get even close to winning the league with a budget and a squad of players like he has a city. If it wasn’t for him city would’ve been relegation certainties for sure.

If you couldn’t tell I am being sarcastic. All acalades will go to the big clubs and the media darlings. Dyche nor any Burnley player has won manger/Player of the month this season yet we sit in 7th. What does that tell you.

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Re: If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:03 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:They'd lost 10 out of 12 league games.

That's pretty dead.

Don't know where you got your 'won 2 games' from. Pulis was appointed 23/11/13, the day they won their second game.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footb ... ghter.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The 55-year-old was on Monday unveiled as the Eagles' new manager on a two-and-a-half-year deal, replacing Ian Holloway who resigned from the job a month ago.
25/11/2013

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Re: If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

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Re: If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

Post by Foulthrow » Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:08 pm

I hope they give it to the manager of the team who finishes third. That's how it works isn't it?

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Re: If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:08 pm

So you're going to credit him with a win even though he didn't actually take charge of the team for that game?

Odd.

i'll accept my dates are incorrect.

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Re: If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

Post by Tall Paul » Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:09 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:They'd lost 10 out of 12 league games.

That's pretty dead.

Don't know where you got your 'won 2 games' from. Pulis was appointed 23/11/13, the day they won their second game.
OK, I suppose technically they'd only won one when he was appointed, but the caretaker manager was in charge for that game so Pulis had nothing to do with it.

They'd only lost 9 though, not 10 and if you're counting that win as his first game it was 9 out of 11.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/24968969" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Three points from safety with 26 games to go is far from dead.

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Re: If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

Post by Tall Paul » Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:12 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/25067809

Datestamped 23/11/13
Caretaker manager Keith Millen remained in charge for Saturday's 1-0 victory at Hull, with Pulis's first game coming against Norwich next weekend.
So your own link says that he didn't take charge until after they'd won 2 games.
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Re: If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

Post by Spijed » Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:12 pm

Table the day before he took over. Nowhere near what you what call a perilous position with so many games left to play. Win a couple in the PL and you move up the table. Just look at Swansea this season.
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Re: If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

Post by UpTheBeehole » Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:13 pm

Spijed wrote:Table the day before he took over. Nowhere near what you what call a perilous position with so many games left to play. Win a couple in the PL and you move up the table. Just look at Swansea this season.
He was appointed 23/11/2013

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Re: If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

Post by Spijed » Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:14 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:He was appointed 23/11/2013
Even so, hardly cast adrift when you see the position of Swansea this season!

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Re: If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:48 pm

Pulis did a good job at Palace, but they weren't exactly marooned at the bottom of the table.

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Re: If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

Post by UpTheBeehole » Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:56 pm

Tony Pulis has been named Premier League LMA Manager of the Year at a glittering end of season ceremony on Monday evening.

The Crystal Palace masterminded the club’s incredible escape from relegation after taking over when they only had four points in the Barclays Premier League. Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers won the overall LMA Manager of the Year.

The LMA award is based on the resources available to each manager and is voted for by its members.

Palace, who were promoted last season via the play-offs, have an annual wage bill of £31m. Premier League champions Manchester City paid £233m a year in salaries in their last set of accounts.

Pulis guided Palace to an 11th placed finish in the Premier League and he will attend this evening’s dinner in London.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... racle.html

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Re: If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

Post by Spijed » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:04 pm

The LMA award is based on the resources available to each manager and is voted for by its members.

If that's the case then SD should win by a country mile.

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Re: If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:09 pm

5 points adrift after 11 games is a remarkable escape then :roll:

Should be nailed on for Hodgson to win it this year then, virtually the same position after 11 games, just 6 points adrift instead of 5.

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Re: If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

Post by Spijed » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:18 pm

Sidney1st wrote:5 points adrift after 11 games is a remarkable escape then :roll:

Should be nailed on for Hodgson to win it this year then, virtually the same position after 11 games, just 6 points adrift instead of 5.
Look at what Carvalhal has done at Swansea this year.

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Re: If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

Post by BurnleyFC » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:18 pm

It’ll be Chris Hughton, whether Brighton get relegated or not :roll:

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Re: If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

Post by Sidney1st » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:19 pm

Spijed wrote:Look at what Carvalhal has done at Swansea this year.
He's worth awarding it too just for the strange comments / analogies he makes :lol: :lol:

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Re: If Pulis got the PL manager of the year in 2014

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:29 pm

If Huddersfield stay up Wagner absolutely deserves it.

Closely followed by Hughton, Dyche and Benitez. Howe has also overachieved again.

Winning the league in style with City is an achievement. But its all relative to resources and suchlike. Us finishing 7th would be far more impressive than City winning the league imo.
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