Jay Rodriguez

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:58 am

I don't post much on here these days but when I do it's worth listening to.

You heard it here first boys and girls:

The lad is coming home and will start next season as that number 10 we have been crying out for.

BroadIslandClaret · Post by **BroadIslandClaret** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:05 am

I`m going to lowball this and say only 27 replies to this post.

bfcmatt · Post by **bfcmatt** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:45 am

Diesel wrote:I don't post much on here these days but when I do it's worth listening to.

You heard it here first boys and girls:

The lad is coming home and will start next season as that number 10 we have been crying out for.

I have heard the same, also that it nearly happened in the last window.

COYC73 · Post by **COYC73** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:59 am

I’ve also heard the same too.....

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:13 am

Had he not played for Burnley I doubt there would be the slightest interest in signing him.

COYC73 · Post by **COYC73** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:29 am

Spijed wrote:Had he not played for Burnley I doubt there would be the slightest interest in signing him.

He can be Walters replacement

Still hope we sign a decent striker as well as him though....

bfc1984 · Post by **bfc1984** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:40 am

Love it when people pretend to be in the know, A 5 a.m post telling us all we are signing somebody because of a ****** up conversation at 5 a.m between you and your friend won’t make me fall for it! Don’t need him let’s jog on, what’s he going to do clean wood and Barnes boots?

bfc1984 · Post by **bfc1984** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:45 am

Anyway crying out for? 7th your crying? Really?

Bertiebeehead · Post by **Bertiebeehead** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:47 am

I can also confirm that Rodriguez will be coming back. Along with Tripper and Ings. Stan will also take over from Dyche.

Selby Claret · Post by **Selby Claret** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:56 am

Older than Wood
Less goals this season than Wood
Older than Barnes
Less goals this season than Barnes
Older than Vokes
Only one goal more than Vokes

If he was free then I’d say take a punt but will likely command a fee similar to last year so WBA can recoup most of it.

It’s a no from me

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:02 am

Diesel wrote:I don't post much on here these days but when I do it's worth listening to.

That sealed it for me. Welcome home Jay

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:11 am

It's easy to say no to Rodriguez at present because he's playing in an incredibly poor West Brom team. That doesn't make him a bad player all of a sudden. I'm not saying I'd want us to sign him, but I certainly wouldn't want us to rule him out. He'd improve the squad.

Jimmymaccer · Post by **Jimmymaccer** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:12 am

I saw him looking in Petty’s Estate Agency shop window the other day, looking at those semi detached houses in Worsthorne......

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:16 am

Jimmymaccer wrote:I saw him looking in Petty’s Estate Agency shop window the other day, looking at those semi detached houses in Worsthorne......

A Premier League footballer looking at a semi detached house?

Says to me he is lacking ambition!

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:20 am

Good when he was here and was nice to have a local lad. He is not as good now and vastly overpaid. We've moved on hopefully.

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:22 am

Hes not good enough haha

Burnley will be aiming much bigger come summer and in a euro spot

Siddo · Post by **Siddo** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:43 am

cutsy123 wrote:Hes not good enough haha

Burnley will be aiming much bigger come summer and in a euro spot

Does he sign Monday Cutsy?

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:45 am

JohnMac wrote:A Premier League footballer looking at a semi detached house?

Says to me he is lacking ambition!

Doesn't he own lots of property in the Burnley areas for rental purposes?

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:48 am

Siddo wrote:Does he sign Monday Cutsy?

Not this time siddo

Id be disappointed if we did. We should be aiming for internationals

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:48 am

We won't increase our wage cap by that much, especially for someone who isn't a stand out player.
Only gets a mention because he's a former player, other than that based on his last couple of seasons there wouldn't be much interest, especially on those wages.

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:56 am

When you look at the form of Rodriguez, Keane, Ings and Gray since they left us it made me wonder how many Burnley players have gone onto bigger and better things while SD has been here.

Possibly Tripper, even then I'd say he played better for us before his transfer.

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:02 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:Doesn't he own lots of property in the Burnley areas for rental purposes?

I thought you had to be in 'Homes Under the Hammer' to build a property portfolio

claretabroad · Post by **claretabroad** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:04 am

Would I like him back? Yes
Would SD want him? Maybe
Will it happen? Very doubtful

He's not the same player he was after the bad injuries and his wages would be a massive issue for is. There are better, healthier and cheaper options out there.

Zom Zom · Post by **Zom Zom** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:05 am

cutsy123 wrote:Not this time siddo

Id be disappointed if we did. We should be aiming for internationals

We don't just buy internationals.

We make them.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:24 am

claretabroad wrote:He's not the same player he was after the bad injuries

Do injuries really affect players these days?

Both Barnes and Vokes had similar knee injuries and are now far better players than they were before getting injured in the same way.

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:28 am

Jay would be an excellent addition to the Burnley squad, he really would. Please don't let your opinion be skewed by the fact that he's playing for a team on the way down. At WBA he almost always gets played wide in a 3, which is more of a five than a three. He hardly has anyone to pass to and he doesn't score goals because his role hasn't enabled him to, in a side which creates so little. I bet Dawson has had more attempts on goal than Jay. I'm not sure there's anything in it, but if there is, I'd certainly want us to be interested. Jay hasn't been injured for ages, so that shouldn't put us off. I bet his old man would like the move too! Don't get ahead of yourselves folks. We need to remember why we're doing so well. Jay fits the bill.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:31 am

He played on the wide of a 3 at Southampton ...

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:32 am

JohnMcGreal · Post by **JohnMcGreal** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:08 am

Although Jay was a very good player for us several years ago, I'd like to think that we're setting our sights higher than him when it comes to player recruitment in the summer.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:40 am

The OP averages 3.8 posts daily, so not a rare poster.

However, just as a personal view, Jay Rodriguez is a total Claret so no question of his commitment.

He is a good header of the ball and a good striker. He can tackle and just behind the striker would be ideal. There is room in the squad and we would score more goals and not lose out defensively.

I would be chuffed if he returned. Whether he will is a different issue.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:40 am

Sidney1st wrote:He isn't a big name signing...

He didn't say he would be.

Claret Till I Die · Post by **Claret Till I Die** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:42 am

Sidney1st wrote:He played on the wide of a 3 at Southampton ...

Southampton's 3 were a lot more fluid than WBAs. They were given licence to roam across the frontline under Pochettino

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:44 am

Sidney1st wrote:He isn't a big name signing...

That's not what I'm saying! What I'm suggesting is Rodriguez plus a big name signing and maybe even 1 other attacking signing.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:59 am

The way it's written he's naming jay as the big name.

Maybe add "plus" to a big name signing next time.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:04 am

Sidney1st wrote:The way it's written he's naming jay as the big name.

Maybe add "plus" to a big name signing next time.

The way it's written is crystal clear he meant three players and the reference to a big name wasn't Rodriguez:

"Burnley replace those 3 players with Rodriguez (one), a big name signing (two) and 1 other striker (three)"

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:05 am

Jay has been OK this season without the goals he used to score.
He runs as hard, leaps as high. In the right team he is still a player.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:06 am

Selby Claret wrote:Older than Wood
Less goals this season than Wood
Older than Barnes
Less goals this season than Barnes
Older than Vokes
Only one goal more than Vokes

If he was free then I’d say take a punt but will likely command a fee similar to last year so WBA can recoup most of it.

It’s a no from me

I imagine a Championship club would like to get him off their wage bill. So he won't be too expensive.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:09 am

Sidney1st wrote:The way it's written he's naming jay as the big name.

Maybe add "plus" to a big name signing next time.

The use of commas makes it clear enough. You now understand what I meant so no harm done

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:11 am

taio wrote:The way it's written is crystal clear he meant three players and the reference to a big name wasn't Rodriguez:

"Burnley replace those 3 players with Rodriguez (one), a big name signing (two) and 1 other striker (three)"

Thanks for the English lesson, I read it differently, not hard to see why and it wasn't necessarily meaning we drop 3 and get 3 in.

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:13 am

Hel.do well in the champ we em next season

As i said previous we need to be aiming for fresh quality

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:29 am

All the offending posts have now been removed from the thread and the instigator has had his account suspended for one week.

Thanks to IanMcL for reporting the problem but can I please ask others not to respond with follow up posts, all it does is make it more time consuming when clearing up the thread.

Tony

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:03 pm

IndigoLake wrote:It's easy to say no to Rodriguez at present because he's playing in an incredibly poor West Brom team. That doesn't make him a bad player all of a sudden. I'm not saying I'd want us to sign him, but I certainly wouldn't want us to rule him out. He'd improve the squad.

I dont know why people keep making excuses as to why we should sign a player who has a poor reord of injuries, a poor goalscoring record since those injuries and who has spent the season as the main forward signing in one of the premier leagues worse ever teams.

Was a good player for us and a nice lad. But no time for sentiment.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:15 pm

This summer needs to be a ruthless one or we could well find ourselves dragged into a proper relegation scrap next season. Have to look at Rodriguez and think “is he really what we need”. I think no. Not a natural number 10, got better strikers, and should be signing a better winger. Arfield and GKN probably won’t be here next season.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:16 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:I dont know why people keep making excuses as to why we should sign a player who has a poor reord of injuries, a poor goalscoring record since those injuries and who has spent the season as the main forward signing in one of the premier leagues worse ever teams.

Was a good player for us and a nice lad. But no time for sentiment.

First of all, there are no excuses from me! I'm very much on the fence about Rodriguez. However, he's a PL player for a reason and he was capped for England for a reason. Now, I know those things don't make him a good player - some very average players have appeared in the PL and received caps. However, I'm just trying to be open-minded as to what he could bring to us. He's certainly different to Barnes and Wood and I feel he'd offer enough as a squad player. Certainly won't offer less than our other forwards have!

Rodriguez has had injuries but has also been fit for a while now. If we signed him, it would be because we feel he's seen the worst of them. Also, I would think we've learned something about not writing off players because they're part of a poor team. We signed Pope, Gudmundsson and Heaton from relegated teams (from the Championship no less!). So I think there's a lot to it such as the coaching the player is getting, how he fits in with the ethos of the club and style of play etc. Many Derby fans were happy to see the back of Hendrick and Villa fans weren't exactly crying over Lowton or Westwood leaving. There are probably plenty more examples.

So with regard to sentiment - there's none from me. I'm not from Burnley and I'm not even from Lancashire. Never lived there and never will. I don't care that Jay is from Burnley (though I do think it would help in terms of his performances if he was playing for his hometown club again). I'm just not ruling Rodriguez out. Lots of people argue that fans are biased over Jay because he's a Burnley lad. I'd actually say that you're far more likely to see comments saying that people only want to sign him because he's 'one of our own'. It probably actually goes against him as you can see from some of the comments on this thread.

Sorry for the essay, haha

Just trying to be open-mined about such a signing.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:21 pm

Fair enough indigo. Csnt argue with your post. Just dont think we should be looking at him now. If we signed him I would fully support him.

Think we actually need to be looking at a smaller, quicker goal poacher to compliment Wood, Barnes or even Vokes. And thee creativity from wide.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:25 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Fair enough indigo. Csnt argue with your post. Just dont think we should be looking at him now. If we signed him I would fully support him.

Think we actually need to be looking at a smaller, quicker goal poacher to compliment Wood, Barnes or even Vokes. And thee creativity from wide.

Yes, think we're in agreement in terms of what we need. I'd also like to see us add some pace and creativity both out wide and up front (or behind the main striker). Plenty of work to do!

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:32 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote: Think we actually need to be looking at a smaller, quicker goal poacher to compliment Wood, Barnes or even Vokes. And thee creativity from wide.

They don't have to be smaller but we do need a quicker goalpoacher. Just as an alternative. Next year it could be Nakhi, if not I don't think he'll be around much longer.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:32 pm

I hate these wildly cocky, this is a fact but no reason explained why it's true, posts.

Load of old crap and Jay Rod isn't good enough for us so no thanks.

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:34 pm

Westwood and Lowton are examples of good players being not overly popular because some fans have an unrealistic view of their clubs position. A bit like some of our own with regard to Wells and Walters.

Jay Rod would be a good addition to our squad, Lionel Messi would be a good addition to our first XI.

BroadIslandClaret · Post by **BroadIslandClaret** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:37 pm

BroadIslandClaret wrote:I`m going to lowball this and say only 27 replies to this post.

Unsurprisingly, wrong.