Looking like a 3 way shootout for 7th

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:24 pm

Gap 7 points to Watford and below with everyone having a far inferior GD

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:30 pm

Spijed wrote:Gap 7 points to Watford and below with everyone having a far inferior GD

Just posted similar on the other thread.
Late wins for Everton and Bournemouth mean that a top 10 finish isn't guaranteed yet, but we'll have to have a fairly bad run to finish below Bournemouth.
If we play to our usual level and have even the smallest bit of luck, then it should be a 3 horse race for 7th with us as favourites.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:33 pm

Leicester's fixtures look quite favourable for them.

Chelsea H
Brighton A
Newcastle H
Us A (the exception

)
Southampton H
Palace A
West Ham H
Spurs A

halfmanhalfbiscuit · Post by **halfmanhalfbiscuit** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:34 pm

Poor form that from Stanislas.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:43 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Leicester's fixtures look quite favourable for them.

Chelsea H
Brighton A
Newcastle H
Us A (the exception )
Southampton H
Palace A
West Ham H
Spurs A

And
Arsenal (yet to be arranged) H

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:45 pm

I wouldn't want any of those Leicester away fixture. Battles the lot of them.

halfmanhalfbiscuit · Post by **halfmanhalfbiscuit** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:48 pm

jdrobbo wrote:I wouldn't want any of those Leicester away fixture. Battles the lot of them.

Yes, they'll be some teams battling for their lives.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:52 pm

jdrobbo wrote:I wouldn't want any of those Leicester away fixture. Battles the lot of them.

Then again, WBA & Stoke away won't be easy for us.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:53 pm

I'd back us against the lot of em.

I really would.

halfmanhalfbiscuit · Post by **halfmanhalfbiscuit** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:56 pm

Spijed wrote:Then again, WBA & Stoke away won't be easy for us.

When West Brom went 0-1 up today I thought it's proabably a good result for us as it sees off Bournemouth. But the last thing we need is West Brom getting a bit of steam just before we play them.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:57 pm

Caernarfon_Claret wrote:And
Arsenal (yet to be arranged) H

Crumbs!

Another 3 points for them then.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:04 pm

And Everton's fixtures

Man City H
Liverpool H
Swansea A
Newcastle H
Huddersfield A
Southampton H
West Ham A

rincon · Post by **rincon** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:08 pm

could be a 4 way shootout for 7th
with us pipping the gunners for 6th spot

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:58 pm

rincon wrote:could be a 4 way shootout for 7th
with us pipping the gunners for 6th spot

Wouldn't that therefore be a 2 or 3 way shoot out for 8th, if Arsenal are to finish 7th!!

rincon · Post by **rincon** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:25 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:Wouldn't that therefore be a 2 or 3 way shoot out for 8th, if Arsenal are to finish 7th!!

yes it would, but mine sounds better

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:56 pm

I’m confident of a top 9 finish. We have a slim chance of 6th place but more realistically 7th-9th. I’m guessing it will be 7th or 8th.

Our key players getting injured has cost us a comfortable top 6 finish. However, which of us really believed we would finish 7th or 8th? What a season!

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:06 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:However, which of us really believed we would finish 7th or 8th? What a season!

Absolutely. I think most fans would have been happy with 7th or 8th from the bottom.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:23 pm

It is a 2 way battle for 6th.

One if those 2 will finish 7th. The rest are looking at 8th.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:42 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:Our key players getting injured has cost us a comfortable top 6 finish.

Doesn't work like that.

Had we had more players fit and been closer to Arsenal then both clubs may have possibly changed the way previous games were played. We might never have got a draw against Man City, for example if Defour & Brady had been fit. Arsenal may have approached some of their matches in a different manner had we been breathing down their necks.

And let's not forget that Lennon has had a good impact and is possibly a better player than Brady anyway.

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:56 pm

So it's a 2 way shoot-out for 6th, a 3 way shoot-out for 7th, and a 2 or 3 way shoot-out for 8th.
That's not to mention 7th.
I'm confused

.

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:00 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:Our key players getting injured has cost us a comfortable top 6 finish.

Also, if you follow that logic, you have to admit that other club's players injuries would have cost them points too. In other words we'd probably be about where we are.

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:10 pm

So it guarantees us another 20m approx as a minimum. Unless we have a catastrophic end to the season we're nailed on for top 10.

Crazy really as our turnover in the championship wasn't a great deal more than that. Before parachute payments started coming into us obviously.

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:14 pm

I think weve a cracking chance of beating WBA and Watford.

Then the Leicester game will be massive.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:16 pm

I don’t think we’ll finish 7th, but we’re now at the stage where it’ll be a tad disappointing if we don’t finish in the top half.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:05 pm

rincon wrote:could be a 4 way shootout for 7th
with us pipping the gunners for 6th spot

That's the one!

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:05 pm

Spijed wrote:
Doesn't work like that.

Had we had more players fit and been closer to Arsenal then both clubs may have possibly changed the way previous games were played. We might never have got a draw against Man City, for example if Defour & Brady had been fit. Arsenal may have approached some of their matches in a different manner had we been breathing down their necks.

And let's not forget that Lennon has had a good impact and is possibly a better player than Brady anyway.

As far as Im concerned had we had everybody 100% fit each game we’d be at least 43 points clear at the top.

We are bloody fantastic!!

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:15 pm

Now I'd be surprised if we finish below 9th.
Fantastic achievement.

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Sun Mar 18, 2018 12:29 am

Can’t see Everton getting much out of their next two games, and I don’t see Leicester’s run-in being any easier than ours.

Our next home game will be massive.

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:12 am

we've been 7th or above all season, if we finish 8th i will be disappointed, we have a chance for Europe, it may never happen again.

BroadIslandClaret · Post by **BroadIslandClaret** » Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:36 am

Burnley 53
Leicester 51
Everton 49

Will that mean Europe?

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:54 am

BroadIslandClaret wrote:Burnley 53
Leicester 51
Everton 49

Will that mean Europe?

If we finish 7th and Utd or Spurs win the FA cup.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:09 am

claretandy wrote:If we finish 7th and Utd or Spurs win the FA cup.

Or Chelsea

BroadIslandClaret · Post by **BroadIslandClaret** » Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:15 am

claretandy wrote:If we finish 7th and Utd or Spurs win the FA cup.

NAILED ON!!!!!!!

Claret&Green · Post by **Claret&Green** » Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:19 am

halfmanhalfbiscuit wrote:When West Brom went 0-1 up today I thought it's proabably a good result for us as it sees off Bournemouth. But the last thing we need is West Brom getting a bit of steam just before we play them.

3 league teams WBA have beaten this season Bournemouth, Brighton & Burnley. All the Bs

Claret&Green · Post by **Claret&Green** » Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:24 am

BroadIslandClaret wrote:Burnley 53
Leicester 51
Everton 49

Will that mean Europe?

Only if we finish 7th AND Chelski, **** Utd or Spurs win FA Cup AND gooners win Europa league

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:30 am

It makes no difference whether or not Arsenal win the Europa Cup.

Claret&Green · Post by **Claret&Green** » Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:38 am

scouseclaret wrote:It makes no difference whether or not Arsenal win the Europa Cup.

If Utd or Spurs win FACup then two Europa League places go to 5th & 6th, we only get 2 Europa places(6 Europe places total) .. England only get 7th if one of their clubs win Europa a get extra Champions League place, as Utd did last season. Utd were technically representing UEFA in champions league not EPL

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:13 am

Well, West Brom can't catch us. Two more to go!

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:35 am

Claret&Green wrote:If Utd or Spurs win FACup then two Europa League places go to 5th & 6th, we only get 2 Europa places(6 Europe places total) .. England only get 7th if one of their clubs win Europa a get extra Champions League place, as Utd did last season. Utd were technically representing UEFA in champions league not EPL

5th placed team get a spot
FA Cup winners get a spot
League Cup winners get a spot.

In the instance that a cup winner qualifies through their league position the next highest team in the table qualifies. Doesn't matter about Arsenal in Europa.

NRC · Post by **NRC** » Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:47 am

Getting ahead of ourselves a little here lads. Last season’s early visit to the beach by the squad is still playing on my mind....

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sun Mar 18, 2018 12:56 pm

Claret&Green wrote:If Utd or Spurs win FACup then two Europa League places go to 5th & 6th, we only get 2 Europa places(6 Europe places total) .. England only get 7th if one of their clubs win Europa a get extra Champions League place, as Utd did last season. Utd were technically representing UEFA in champions league not EPL

The Premier League gets 7 European spots. Assuming Manu, Spurs or Chelsea win the FA cup 7th place definitely gets in the Europa league.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:04 pm

As long as Southampton don't win the FA Cup it's now just as straight shootout to finish 7th and get in the Europa league.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:03 pm

Form looking good over last few matches:

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Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:16 pm

7th means you still have to qualify for Europa League so depends who you have to play to make Europa League proper.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:19 pm

Caernarfon_Claret wrote:7th means you still have to qualify for Europa League so depends who you have to play to make Europa League proper.

Isn't the qualifying round usually played against some part time Albanian sheep farmers though?

NL Claret · Post by **NL Claret** » Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:50 pm

Spijed wrote:Isn't the qualifying round usually played against some part time Albanian sheep farmers though?

I can see one of the following UTC meltdowns occurring:

A - we don't qualify for the Champions or Europa League

B - we lose on away goals to KF Skënderbeu Korçë in the Europa League qualifying round with loads of posters missing out on tickets due to club only taking 200 allocation.

SparkyClaret · Post by **SparkyClaret** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:01 am

NL Claret wrote:I can see one of the following UTC meltdowns occurring:

A - we don't qualify for the Champions or Europa League

B - we lose on away goals to KF Skënderbeu Korçë in the Europa League qualifying round with loads of posters missing out on tickets due to club only taking 200 allocation.

As long as we don’t lose against Trelleborgs, I won’t care

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:36 pm

Think Everton had Hadjuk Split in the final qualifier, certainly not mugs.