Ant Arrested

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:07 am

Ant Mcpartlin arrested on suspicion of drink driving after crashing his car in London.(BBC)
Had quite a few problems lately, hope he's ok. Hope everyone else is ok, too, if others involved.

Edit : Three year old girl taken to hospital, thought to be involved in the incident.

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:11 am

Ah yes, the poor misunderstood alcoholic drug addict etc....

Blame it on mental health like "SOMEONE" and all is OK.

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:18 am

Guy has clearly got some problems. All rather sad and perhaps makes him an easy target. Needs help not criticism from people who obviously live perfect lives.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:20 am

Don't drink, don't smoke

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Damo · Post by **Damo** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:49 am

LoveCurryPies wrote:Guy has clearly got some problems. All rather sad and perhaps makes him an easy target. Needs help not criticism from people who obviously live perfect lives.

Yes, let's not criticise the millionaire drink driver

BroadIslandClaret · Post by **BroadIslandClaret** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:51 am

The cops must have had TINY handcuffs!

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:07 am

I dont like the proffesional Geordie but still feel all people struggling with mental health issues deserve compasion regardless of who they are.

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:55 am

Many people deserve sympathy but if he's caused an accident by drink driving we need to prioritize punishment.

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:21 am

PJ and Drunken

PutTheWheelieBinsOut · Post by **PutTheWheelieBinsOut** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:24 am

Be interesting to see if ITV suspends him, if that's even an option, I doubt they have the power? Probably go back to some posh rehab voluntarily.

The most important thing obviously is that everyone involved is ok.

BroadIslandClaret · Post by **BroadIslandClaret** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:39 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:I dont like the proffesional Geordie but still feel all people struggling with mental health issues deserve compasion regardless of who they are.

You are right, of course, but when ANYBODY gets behind the wheel under the influence and injures other or conversely endangers motorists with their actions (Carlisle) then I`m afraid, the action has to take precedence over their mental state. If Ant would`ve hit my car and injured my 3-year old child, I would certainly not be saying "poor Ant, come ere and give me a hug."

Caballo · Post by **Caballo** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:39 am

I would have had some sympathy but for his recent endorsement of online slots, we've to feel sorry for his addictions but he's allowed to make a few quid fuelling somebody else's misery.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:11 am

BroadIslandClaret wrote:You are right, of course, but when ANYBODY gets behind the wheel under the influence and injures other or conversely endangers motorists with their actions (Carlisle) then I`m afraid, the action has to take precedence over their mental state. If Ant would`ve hit my car and injured my 3-year old child, I would certainly not be saying "poor Ant, come ere and give me a hug."

This. The bottom line is drink driving. There is a choice. Innocent people have been involved including a child. I don't want to see him on telly again.

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:30 am

We can punish drink/driving offenders so as to deter others.
We can also have compassion and treat alcohol related problems and depression.
The two are not mutually exclusive.

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:57 am

Get the ducking stool out,if he drowns he's innocent..

Steddyman · Post by **Steddyman** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:00 am

Damo wrote:Yes, let's not criticise the millionaire drink driver

What has money got to to with whether or not somebody can suffer from mental health issues?

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:09 am

I have every sympathy for someone who is struggling with alcoholism, my dad had this problem and it ruined his life.

But if you are a millionaire then you can at least afford a bloody taxi so my sympathy goes to the 3 year old who seems to be getting forgotten in this.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:10 am

Money does not make a difference to whether someone suffers from mental health issues. It does affect the decision to drink drive in this case as he could afford a full time chauffeur and any taxi.

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:47 am

He's had a few drinks and decided to drive. It's a stupid thing to do and we all know if we take that chance and crash we could be in prison.

They'l no doubt temp suspend the saturday night thing they do,and i'd imagine it will make a mess of their other high profile work until it's resolved.I'm pretty sure though a bang to rights guilty plea on DD gets to court pretty quickly. He'll no doubt plead some mental health/stress/alco "issues" which are all horsesh1t. But 1st offence he'll get a big ban big fine and i'd imagine a bit of community service due to there being an accident and he's famous.

DD per se,is pretty minor in the "famous people crimes" list and very very rarely leads to a direct dismissal.Personally i couldn't give a sh1t but i'm thankful for his and the young girls sake that this wasn't a hell of a lot worse

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:53 am

AlargeClaret wrote:He'll no doubt plead some mental health/stress/alco "issues" which are all horsesh1t.

Just when you hope people are beginning to understand mental health issues

tybfc · Post by **tybfc** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:02 am

ClaretTony wrote:Just when you hope people are beginning to understand mental health issues

I don't think that the ignorance will disappear in our lifetime.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:13 am

ClaretTony wrote:Just when you hope people are beginning to understand mental health issues

Check out some of his previous posts on this board and you will quickly work out his views on mental health are not a big surprise.

There was a thread on the keirby hotel where he posted possibly the funniest post I have ever seen on this board - unfortunately it was not supposed to be funny. This guy makes Jim Davidson look like Mary Whitehouse.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:16 am

I empathise with him as the very medium that made him into who he is today is likely to be a large part of the personal struggles he is dealing with. He was wrong to drink and drive, and fortunately no one was seriously injured in the incident. I hope the 3 year old doesn't have any long lasting anxiety issues from this either. It was a mistake, and his mental health will not be helped by carrying the burden of this incident as well. Hindsight is always wonderful in situations like this, isn't it...?

I hope, for his sake, that he removes himself from the public limelight and gets help, proper help - and if that means he is no longer on the TV then so be it - the last thing he needs is for pressure to continue with his TV life because other will lose out (financially).

BigChaCha · Post by **BigChaCha** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:16 am

I have always preferred Dec to Ant!

There is something about Ant that has always made me think he's not quite as nice as his act is portraying. He has an arrogance and cocksureness that would normally make me distrust a person and he often treats the public in some of his shows with complete disdain, just like Noel Edmonds did in Noels House Party!

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:19 am

Possibly behaves the way he does as a front to keep himself together whilst dealing with his demons, or not in this instance.

Maybe when he's recovered and back on the wagon you may see the real Ant and change your opinion of him.

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:22 am

He's done well to get his driving license in the first place, after being blinded as a teenager.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:00 am

I do believe this fella has mental issues, all caused by his celebrity and lifestyle, but the post above is correct. A good lawyer and a plead for understanding can get any muppet off with what is a crime. Very similar to all the athletes abusing drugs and then having a prescription but they took too much.
I have every sympathy for anybody with genuine mental problems but it is becoming the cop out of choice for celebs.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:01 am

piston broke wrote:I have every sympathy for anybody with genuine mental problems but it is becoming the cop out of choice for celebs.

Oh dear

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:06 am

NottsClaret wrote:He's done well to get his driving license in the first place, after being blinded as a teenager.

AH CANNAE SEE

ClaretFelix · Post by **ClaretFelix** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:07 am

piston broke wrote:I do believe this fella has mental issues, all caused by his celebrity and lifestyle, but the post above is correct. A good lawyer and a plead for understanding can get any muppet off with what is a crime. Very similar to all the athletes abusing drugs and then having a prescription but they took too much.
I have every sympathy for anybody with genuine mental problems but it is becoming the cop out of choice for celebs.

His mental health issues stemmed from a botched knee op and his over reliance on prescribed medication. This led to his addiction.

No details have yet come out about whether he’s been charged or not, but in my view, being a celebrity or in the public eye should have no bearing on any punishment. Nor should it in other cases where well known people find themselves in front or a judge

tybfc · Post by **tybfc** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:07 am

piston broke wrote:I do believe this fella has mental issues, all caused by his celebrity and lifestyle, but the post above is correct. A good lawyer and a plead for understanding can get any muppet off with what is a crime. Very similar to all the athletes abusing drugs and then having a prescription but they took too much.
I have every sympathy for anybody with genuine mental problems but it is becoming the cop out of choice for celebs.

I am genuinely interested in how and why you believe that his mental health issues are caused by his celebrity and lifestyle (whatever that means).

Do you know him personally?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:08 am

tybfc wrote:I am genuinely interested in how and why you believe that his mental health issues are caused by his celebrity and lifestyle (whatever that means).

Do you know him personally?

It's a sad state of affairs tybfc but people who don't understand mental issues too often make comments like that

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:13 am

Mental health issues may explain drink driving but they don't excuse it. He needs both an appropriate punishment and appropriate care, the two not being mutually exclusive.

tybfc · Post by **tybfc** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:17 am

ClaretTony wrote:It's a sad state of affairs tybfc but people who don't understand mental issues too often make comments like that

Yes it is and is why I made an earlier comment that people will still be ignorant of this in our lifetimes.

Mental health problems can be swept under the carpet all too easily instead of being dealt with as would a broken leg in an A&E department of a hospital.

But too many people want to and do ignore it.

IWOODLOVETT · Post by **IWOODLOVETT** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:25 am

I'm surprised he hasn't got a driver/minder or that the poor little chap couldn't afford a taxi. Maybe it was one of his naughty, mischievous pranks that went wrong. Tut, tut!!!

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:14 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Just when you hope people are beginning to understand mental health issues

CT

I was referring not to mental health issues as such but the way celebs use them all too often as a catch all cop out when they get caught out, be it drinking , drugs, women and so forth.

dales_claret · Post by **dales_claret** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:18 pm

My grandma was killed by a drunk driver so no sympathy whatsoever......Throw away the ******* key

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:26 pm

It can't have taken much alcohol to put him over the limit.

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:26 pm

TVC15 wrote:Check out some of his previous posts on this board and you will quickly work out his views on mental health are not a big surprise.

There was a thread on the keirby hotel where he posted possibly the funniest post I have ever seen on this board - unfortunately it was not supposed to be funny. This guy makes Jim Davidson look like Mary Whitehouse.

TVC15

With the greatest of respect it’s a little presumptuous to guage anyones views on MH based off a long begone experience at the old Keirby .( one of a good few) I’m glad the post got a laugh though as if you can’t have a chuckle at such drunken debauchery I guess ya never will.

My MH comment was referring to how it’s a very common get out clause for bad behaviour in celebs, therefore cheapening the genuine cases. Have a good day

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:27 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:CT

I was referring not to mental health issues as such but the way celebs use them all too often as a catch all cop out when they get caught out, be it drinking , drugs, women and so forth.

Sorry mate, I disagree, drink driving by its very nature is a mental health issue. Just by asking "Who in their right mind would drink and drive?" should highlight that to anyone.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:27 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:CT

I was referring not to mental health issues as such but the way celebs use them all too often as a catch all cop out when they get caught out, be it drinking , drugs, women and so forth.

I suppose we'll never quite know or understand the demons some people have. Robin Williams was greatly misunderstood and it resulted in him taking his own life.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:30 pm

has he pleaded guilty or is he going to have a bushtucker trial ?

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:34 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:Sorry mate, I disagree, drink driving by its very nature is a mental health issue. Just by asking "Who in their right mind would drink and drive?" should highlight that to anyone.

Rick

It’s a fair point but to say that every DRink driver who ever was has a MH issue is just silly. While I don’t doubtbfor 1 min that people suffering from a MH may well “DD” Id have thought the vast majortiy fall into the idiotic /careless/chanced it after a few types .

Perhaps Ant/Dec has a serious MH issue ? Perhaps he just chanced it after his Sunday dinner?

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:50 pm

There's a big difference between clinical depression and felling down.

I feel as though more of the latter are pretending to be the former.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:54 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:TVC15

With the greatest of respect it’s a little presumptuous to guage anyones views on MH based off a long begone experience at the old Keirby .( one of a good few) I’m glad the post got a laugh though as if you can’t have a chuckle at such drunken debauchery I guess ya never will.

My MH comment was referring to how it’s a very common get out clause for bad behaviour in celebs, therefore cheapening the genuine cases. Have a good day

Not really that presumptious when you see some of your other posts. To put it kindly some of your views appear a bit old fashioned (less kindly out of the dark ages)

In terms of your MH comment maybe you should have worded it like you have now rather than describing it as horsesh-it.

Nobody is saying what this guy did can be excused but his problems with alcohol and stress have been well documented so to say his MH issues are fabricated is as you like to put it a "little presumptious"

arise_sir_charge · Post by **arise_sir_charge** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:16 pm

I think it’s fair to assume that Ant has mental health issues bearing in mind he spent the summer in a self imposed rehab.

Does that excuse his drink driving, no it doesn’t. It does however go some way to explaining howa well paid, well respected celebrity has got himself into this position.

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:48 pm

conyoviejo wrote:Get the ducking stool out,if he drowns he's innocent..

He won't drown though because he's male, therefore he's boy ant.

ClaretDiver · Post by **ClaretDiver** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:34 pm

Stepped down from all TV projects for the immediate future!

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:56 pm

Sunday Afternoon Towed Away

TractorFace · Post by **TractorFace** » Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:31 pm

I've never understood their (Ant & Dec) popularly. Apparently, their Saturday evening show is among the highest ratings on TV.

Also, Drink Driving doesn't automatically equate mental illness. Arrogance and selfishness, I would have thought.