Well worth buying the Times today for a superb article by Henry Winter with the above headline. The link below only works if you are a subscriber I think but would recommend everyone finds a way of reading this. Very proud to be a Claret when you get one of our best football writers extolling Sean's virtues as effusively as in this article. My favourite sentence is "Dyche is very much an adherent to the All Blacks "no dickhead policy" !
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HENRY WINTER
March 19 2018, 5:00pm, The Times
Sean Dyche is becoming England manager by stealth
Henry Winter
When Nick Pope, the Burnley goalkeeper, was called up by England, the Nick Pope who used to advise the Ministry of Defence on UFOs started receiving messages of congratulations.
As outlandish call-ups go, an expert on unidentified flying objects would be quite useful given England’s penalty history but this was only the usual Twitter mix-up and malarkey.
Pope, right, will be vying with Joe Hart, Jack Butland and Jordan Pickford to start in goal on Friday
Pope, right, will be vying with Joe Hart, Jack Butland and Jordan Pickford to start in goal on Friday
EDDIE KEOGH/REX FEATURES
“Congratulations to my namesake, the ‘other’ Nick Pope, who just got his first England football call-up,” UFO Pope tweeted about BFC Pope. “Stand by for more confusion as I get media questions about defending against penalties, while he gets ones about the Pentagon’s UFO program!”
UFO Pope did get questions, including a Burnley fan inquiring, “What’s your opinion on Ben Mee not getting picked? Surely playing behind him and Tarks would have been better for England?” It was a fair question to ask, even if not necessarily of a specialist on alien life.
James “Tarks” Tarkowski, Mee’s fellow minister of central defence at Turf Moor, is in the England squad to face Holland and Italy.
Given that Mee galvanises those he plays alongside, as one look at Michael Keane’s stutters since leaving for Everton last summer would suggest, Burnley fans understandably are campaigning for their captain’s inclusion. It may only be that his height (5ft 11in) is counting against Mee in Gareth Southgate’s eyes but Burnley fans love his defensive nous, his blocking and tackling.
The fact that there’s a debate about Burnley’s close encounters with the England squad simply highlights the amazing job that Sean Dyche is doing at Turf Moor. The Burnley manager is off on a quick skiing trip during the international break, and no wonder with 16 players away with their countries after enjoying such good form under their charismatic manager.
After 42 years without an England connection, Burnley have now had five players called up under a delighted Dyche, living up to his billing as the “proudest man in Proudsville”.
It’s almost becoming a routine for Dyche, taking a call from the England manager, who tells him that his Burnley players are getting their first international summons, initially Tom Heaton by Roy Hodgson, then Jack Cork, Pope, Keane and Tarkowski by Southgate.
Before informing the players, Dyche gathers Ian Woan, Tony Loughlan and Billy Mercer, the team behind the team, in the staff office at Barnfield. The players are then invited up for “some news”. Last Thursday, it was the turn of Pope and Tarkowski to enter the room, receive the glad tidings, handshakes all round and then back to work.
Just as Tony Philliskirk must take plenty of credit for Tarkowski’s development at Oldham Athletic, so can Dyche for Danny Ings’s rise before being capped at Liverpool, and for Kieran Trippier’s improvement with the full back eventually becoming an England international under Mauricio Pochettino. Tottenham’s former Southampton manager leads the way with 12 players having made their England debuts while under his club guidance. Of present Premier League managers, Dyche is next with three: Keane, Heaton and Cork, and two pending. He’s almost becoming England manager by stealth.
Dyche, as he always says, is not a “fashionable” manager, not trendy like Pochettino, but Burnley lie seventh in the Premier League and that position will guarantee European football, unless Southampton win the FA Cup.
Dyche’s influence at Turf Moor has had a clear knock-on effect with the international team
Dyche’s influence at Turf Moor has had a clear knock-on effect with the international team
LYNNE CAMERON/GETTY IMAGES
Leicester City and Everton could catch them but even if they do, Burnley are still massively overachieving on a wage bill that is comfortably bottom three. Dyche’s achievement is formidable.
Two caveats do need to be attached to the dynamic Dyche narrative: first, that Burnley’s board deserve credit for their support, not panicking over relegation in 2015, and second, that this is not the hardest England squad in history to get into, and that’s putting it politely.
Yet Dyche’s story is uplifting and a lesson to some other clubs and managers. The only top-division manager sponsored by a surf shop and café in Devon, Dyche’s prominence is a celebration of the essentials of his profession, arguably most professions: hard work and teamwork.
When he arrived at Burnley in 2012, Dyche promised staff that there would be “sweat on the shirt”, referring to his own work ethic. His sports science is on point, his willingness to graft every hour possible is well-established, and his attention to detail immense.
He spends hours analysing opposition, hunting weak points, as he did when telling his players to target Liverpool’s Trent Alexander-Arnold with long diagonals at Anfield in September, and Robbie Brady worked the young right back over, leading to Scott Arfield’s goal.
Burnley have drawn at Anfield, won at Stamford Bridge, won at Goodison Park and drawn at Old Trafford so far this season, demonstrating how Dyche learnt from last season’s problems on the road, and has set up Burnley to be far more effective and smart. They also held mighty Manchester City at Turf Moor.
Dyche’s gruff voice and bouncer demeanour belies a keen footballing brain, befitting somebody who learnt under Brian Clough. He’s a mix of engaging company, laughing about his image, yet slightly prickly at not being given full credit for the sophistication of much of his work at Burnley.
Privately, Dyche wonders why he is not linked with top jobs. That’s not arrogance, that’s simply a reflection of his belief in himself and of his backroom team to develop players. Could he deal with big egos? Only opportunity and time would tell, but Dyche would definitely back himself to.
Focusing on Dyche is particularly appropriate in England fortnight, as he will probably be the home-grown candidate highest up the football pyramid when the FA next resume their search for the England manager.
Dyche’s “sweat on the shirt” promise on his arrival also related to his demands on players. Dyche insists they train as they play, with a match-day intensity, and no hats or gloves. They also have this mantra at Burnley where being “fit” is different from being “Dyche fit”.
He runs them hard, building up speed and stamina, and the 46-year-old himself can often be seen lapping the woods by Gawthorpe Hall. When the mercurial Belgian Steven Defour arrived in 2016, Dyche told him that he would sharpen him up, get him in shape — “Dyche fit” — because he was short on conditioning and confidence.
“We’ll get you right,” Dyche promised. Defour responded, and was playing well this season, even scoring at Old Trafford on Boxing Day, before a knee injury intervened.
Dyche is a master communicator, and a great one for feedback, whether being brutally honest about a player’s performance or sitting down and running through video analysis with an individual. As a player he maximised his own abilities, and he likes hungry players.
Of the five associated with England, Heaton and Pope both arrived having been relegated to League One with Bristol City and Charlton Athletic respectively and the pair have shone under Mercer, the goalkeeping coach. Dyche has a huge call to make when Heaton is fully fit again. Pope has been that good.
Keane was going nowhere at Manchester United and was immediately revitalised by Dyche. Cork enjoyed a decent reputation at Swansea City, but within four months of working under Dyche made his England debut. Tarkowski came in after some disagreements at Brentford (although there were mitigating circumstances as his mother was gravely ill back in Manchester).
Dyche does due diligence on recruits. He checks out backgrounds and quirks, gathering information from his many contacts within the game, managers and coaches. Dyche is very much an adherent to the All Blacks’ “no dickhead policy”.
It showed the class of Dyche’s players that they looked after West Ham United mascots during the disturbances at the London Stadium. The mother of one of the mascots got a message through to Jeff Hendrick, the midfielder, to say a “huge thank you for keeping my son safe”.
Dyche works on such a tight budget that he cannot afford mistakes. His judgment has to be right. Burnley’s record outlay is £15 million for Chris Wood, a New Zealand international looked at by a few Premier League clubs during his prolific time at Leeds United who doubted whether he could do it in the top flight.
Dyche did his research, brought him in and Wood’s seven Premier League goals in 17 appearances include an injury-time equaliser against Tottenham Hotspur at Wembley. Dyche the alchemist had done it again. He will be following the England progress of Pope and Tarkowski with pride and interest.
"End of article"
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1 hour ago
I think Hughton may just take it in 2022, with Dyche following...They both have jobs for life at Brighton and Burnley, and have a good group of players who train well and are ambassadors in their community. I would rather support a team like Burnley - Europe! Cloughie did well in Europe... - than support Manchester Abu Dhabi. I feel Spurs and Liverpool have better players, and are the best teams to watch, but Sean will think hard if he is offered the Arsenal job in 2019. He may even get the Man Utd job...
Buda Guy
1 hour ago
Dyche for Arsenal. Get in.
Lea Soar
6 hours ago
Dont underestimate the role of Ian Woan at Burnley (another Nottingham Forest alumni).
And the Burnley Chairman is outstanding.
Ian Rhodes
10 hours ago
Dyche has worked wonders and will continue to do so. The fact that this article has to address and excuse the way he looks and talks, is a ridiculous example of what the masses expect an England manager to be.
Such utter idiocy is why England will never win a thing.
12 hours ago
Chris Hughton for me. Would be a brilliant England manager and would do a great deal for equality of opportunity in football as a bonus.
Ian Rhodes
10 hours ago
Houghton is doing a great job but what you suggest is positive discrimination, which does no one any favours.
HENRY WINTER
March 19 2018, 5:00pm, The Times
Sean Dyche is becoming England manager by stealth
Henry Winter
When Nick Pope, the Burnley goalkeeper, was called up by England, the Nick Pope who used to advise the Ministry of Defence on UFOs started receiving messages of congratulations.
As outlandish call-ups go, an expert on unidentified flying objects would be quite useful given England’s penalty history but this was only the usual Twitter mix-up and malarkey.
Pope, right, will be vying with Joe Hart, Jack Butland and Jordan Pickford to start in goal on Friday
Pope, right, will be vying with Joe Hart, Jack Butland and Jordan Pickford to start in goal on Friday
EDDIE KEOGH/REX FEATURES
“Congratulations to my namesake, the ‘other’ Nick Pope, who just got his first England football call-up,” UFO Pope tweeted about BFC Pope. “Stand by for more confusion as I get media questions about defending against penalties, while he gets ones about the Pentagon’s UFO program!”
UFO Pope did get questions, including a Burnley fan inquiring, “What’s your opinion on Ben Mee not getting picked? Surely playing behind him and Tarks would have been better for England?” It was a fair question to ask, even if not necessarily of a specialist on alien life.
James “Tarks” Tarkowski, Mee’s fellow minister of central defence at Turf Moor, is in the England squad to face Holland and Italy.
Given that Mee galvanises those he plays alongside, as one look at Michael Keane’s stutters since leaving for Everton last summer would suggest, Burnley fans understandably are campaigning for their captain’s inclusion. It may only be that his height (5ft 11in) is counting against Mee in Gareth Southgate’s eyes but Burnley fans love his defensive nous, his blocking and tackling.
The fact that there’s a debate about Burnley’s close encounters with the England squad simply highlights the amazing job that Sean Dyche is doing at Turf Moor. The Burnley manager is off on a quick skiing trip during the international break, and no wonder with 16 players away with their countries after enjoying such good form under their charismatic manager.
After 42 years without an England connection, Burnley have now had five players called up under a delighted Dyche, living up to his billing as the “proudest man in Proudsville”.
It’s almost becoming a routine for Dyche, taking a call from the England manager, who tells him that his Burnley players are getting their first international summons, initially Tom Heaton by Roy Hodgson, then Jack Cork, Pope, Keane and Tarkowski by Southgate.
Before informing the players, Dyche gathers Ian Woan, Tony Loughlan and Billy Mercer, the team behind the team, in the staff office at Barnfield. The players are then invited up for “some news”. Last Thursday, it was the turn of Pope and Tarkowski to enter the room, receive the glad tidings, handshakes all round and then back to work.
Just as Tony Philliskirk must take plenty of credit for Tarkowski’s development at Oldham Athletic, so can Dyche for Danny Ings’s rise before being capped at Liverpool, and for Kieran Trippier’s improvement with the full back eventually becoming an England international under Mauricio Pochettino. Tottenham’s former Southampton manager leads the way with 12 players having made their England debuts while under his club guidance. Of present Premier League managers, Dyche is next with three: Keane, Heaton and Cork, and two pending. He’s almost becoming England manager by stealth.
Dyche, as he always says, is not a “fashionable” manager, not trendy like Pochettino, but Burnley lie seventh in the Premier League and that position will guarantee European football, unless Southampton win the FA Cup.
Dyche’s influence at Turf Moor has had a clear knock-on effect with the international team
Dyche’s influence at Turf Moor has had a clear knock-on effect with the international team
LYNNE CAMERON/GETTY IMAGES
Leicester City and Everton could catch them but even if they do, Burnley are still massively overachieving on a wage bill that is comfortably bottom three. Dyche’s achievement is formidable.
Two caveats do need to be attached to the dynamic Dyche narrative: first, that Burnley’s board deserve credit for their support, not panicking over relegation in 2015, and second, that this is not the hardest England squad in history to get into, and that’s putting it politely.
Yet Dyche’s story is uplifting and a lesson to some other clubs and managers. The only top-division manager sponsored by a surf shop and café in Devon, Dyche’s prominence is a celebration of the essentials of his profession, arguably most professions: hard work and teamwork.
When he arrived at Burnley in 2012, Dyche promised staff that there would be “sweat on the shirt”, referring to his own work ethic. His sports science is on point, his willingness to graft every hour possible is well-established, and his attention to detail immense.
He spends hours analysing opposition, hunting weak points, as he did when telling his players to target Liverpool’s Trent Alexander-Arnold with long diagonals at Anfield in September, and Robbie Brady worked the young right back over, leading to Scott Arfield’s goal.
Burnley have drawn at Anfield, won at Stamford Bridge, won at Goodison Park and drawn at Old Trafford so far this season, demonstrating how Dyche learnt from last season’s problems on the road, and has set up Burnley to be far more effective and smart. They also held mighty Manchester City at Turf Moor.
Dyche’s gruff voice and bouncer demeanour belies a keen footballing brain, befitting somebody who learnt under Brian Clough. He’s a mix of engaging company, laughing about his image, yet slightly prickly at not being given full credit for the sophistication of much of his work at Burnley.
Privately, Dyche wonders why he is not linked with top jobs. That’s not arrogance, that’s simply a reflection of his belief in himself and of his backroom team to develop players. Could he deal with big egos? Only opportunity and time would tell, but Dyche would definitely back himself to.
Focusing on Dyche is particularly appropriate in England fortnight, as he will probably be the home-grown candidate highest up the football pyramid when the FA next resume their search for the England manager.
Dyche’s “sweat on the shirt” promise on his arrival also related to his demands on players. Dyche insists they train as they play, with a match-day intensity, and no hats or gloves. They also have this mantra at Burnley where being “fit” is different from being “Dyche fit”.
He runs them hard, building up speed and stamina, and the 46-year-old himself can often be seen lapping the woods by Gawthorpe Hall. When the mercurial Belgian Steven Defour arrived in 2016, Dyche told him that he would sharpen him up, get him in shape — “Dyche fit” — because he was short on conditioning and confidence.
“We’ll get you right,” Dyche promised. Defour responded, and was playing well this season, even scoring at Old Trafford on Boxing Day, before a knee injury intervened.
Dyche is a master communicator, and a great one for feedback, whether being brutally honest about a player’s performance or sitting down and running through video analysis with an individual. As a player he maximised his own abilities, and he likes hungry players.
Of the five associated with England, Heaton and Pope both arrived having been relegated to League One with Bristol City and Charlton Athletic respectively and the pair have shone under Mercer, the goalkeeping coach. Dyche has a huge call to make when Heaton is fully fit again. Pope has been that good.
Keane was going nowhere at Manchester United and was immediately revitalised by Dyche. Cork enjoyed a decent reputation at Swansea City, but within four months of working under Dyche made his England debut. Tarkowski came in after some disagreements at Brentford (although there were mitigating circumstances as his mother was gravely ill back in Manchester).
Dyche does due diligence on recruits. He checks out backgrounds and quirks, gathering information from his many contacts within the game, managers and coaches. Dyche is very much an adherent to the All Blacks’ “no dickhead policy”.
It showed the class of Dyche’s players that they looked after West Ham United mascots during the disturbances at the London Stadium. The mother of one of the mascots got a message through to Jeff Hendrick, the midfielder, to say a “huge thank you for keeping my son safe”.
Dyche works on such a tight budget that he cannot afford mistakes. His judgment has to be right. Burnley’s record outlay is £15 million for Chris Wood, a New Zealand international looked at by a few Premier League clubs during his prolific time at Leeds United who doubted whether he could do it in the top flight.
Dyche did his research, brought him in and Wood’s seven Premier League goals in 17 appearances include an injury-time equaliser against Tottenham Hotspur at Wembley. Dyche the alchemist had done it again. He will be following the England progress of Pope and Tarkowski with pride and interest.
"End of article"
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1 hour ago
I think Hughton may just take it in 2022, with Dyche following...They both have jobs for life at Brighton and Burnley, and have a good group of players who train well and are ambassadors in their community. I would rather support a team like Burnley - Europe! Cloughie did well in Europe... - than support Manchester Abu Dhabi. I feel Spurs and Liverpool have better players, and are the best teams to watch, but Sean will think hard if he is offered the Arsenal job in 2019. He may even get the Man Utd job...
Buda Guy
1 hour ago
Dyche for Arsenal. Get in.
Lea Soar
6 hours ago
Dont underestimate the role of Ian Woan at Burnley (another Nottingham Forest alumni).
And the Burnley Chairman is outstanding.
Ian Rhodes
10 hours ago
Dyche has worked wonders and will continue to do so. The fact that this article has to address and excuse the way he looks and talks, is a ridiculous example of what the masses expect an England manager to be.
Such utter idiocy is why England will never win a thing.
12 hours ago
Chris Hughton for me. Would be a brilliant England manager and would do a great deal for equality of opportunity in football as a bonus.
Ian Rhodes
10 hours ago
Houghton is doing a great job but what you suggest is positive discrimination, which does no one any favours.
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Not sure what SD is doing on a skiing holiday mind you...thought he was injured !
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Is it coming to the point where we need two coaches?
Of course Dyche as the defensive coach. Lawton, Mee, Tarks, Keane, Tripper, Taylor, Heaton and Pope at the back for England.
Not all at once mind!
i.e. players who know each other well and play (or have played) regularly together.
Of course Dyche would stay with us and take his backroom staff with him when there is an international break.
I am just stuck on the offensive coach. Pochettino? Klopp?
Mind you, I do think we should see how Southgate gets on, without all this debate before he has even failed!
Of course Dyche as the defensive coach. Lawton, Mee, Tarks, Keane, Tripper, Taylor, Heaton and Pope at the back for England.
Not all at once mind!
i.e. players who know each other well and play (or have played) regularly together.
Of course Dyche would stay with us and take his backroom staff with him when there is an international break.
I am just stuck on the offensive coach. Pochettino? Klopp?
Mind you, I do think we should see how Southgate gets on, without all this debate before he has even failed!
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Proud as punch.
You can easily run out of words to describe what SD has brought to and means to this club and team. That said it has all come very quickly, and because of that he himself would admit that he still has a few boxes to tick, before he would be ready to take on a top 6 club or England. Not that he wouldn't be ready to give it his all, but to be successful, another couple of seasons at Burnley at least would do him and us no harm at all. He appears to be a sponge at learning about himself, the game, tactics, training, players, sports science.......
We are very lucky to have him.
You can easily run out of words to describe what SD has brought to and means to this club and team. That said it has all come very quickly, and because of that he himself would admit that he still has a few boxes to tick, before he would be ready to take on a top 6 club or England. Not that he wouldn't be ready to give it his all, but to be successful, another couple of seasons at Burnley at least would do him and us no harm at all. He appears to be a sponge at learning about himself, the game, tactics, training, players, sports science.......
We are very lucky to have him.
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The next time people question a player who contribution to the dressing room is highly valued, maybe they should read that comment.Dyche is very much an adherent to the All Blacks’ “no dickhead policy”.
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Very good article and well researched.
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I wonder how many of those suggesting Chris Hughton on the Times site are aware of his 50 plus caps for the Republic of Ireland.
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I like reading Henry Winter, more so when he writes about us, and even more so when he's positive about us.
It's good that someone from outside of our club can see just what an outstanding manager we have.
It's good that someone from outside of our club can see just what an outstanding manager we have.
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Cheers for the find, StAlbans, and the first picture, I've seen, of Nick Pope wearing the 3 Lions.
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Any Burnley fans moaning about certain things this season or about SD read that article feel proud and fortunate we have such a great manager at our club because he won't be here forever. The club will be around for quite a while but these times we are enjoying might not be.
The club is aligned and its thanks to the board and especially SD.
The club is aligned and its thanks to the board and especially SD.
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High altitude training. Skiing is very good for fitness levels......unless you fall and hurt yourself.Stalbansclaret wrote:Not sure what SD is doing on a skiing holiday mind you...thought he was injured !
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Henry Winter is ace
When asked for the best atmosphere of the season a few years ago on the radio that he's been in, he said "Burnley v Spurs in the league cup semi-final"
Top bloke
When asked for the best atmosphere of the season a few years ago on the radio that he's been in, he said "Burnley v Spurs in the league cup semi-final"
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Excellent article.
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If our current Burnley squad were to play the current England squad (minus our players), who do you think would win? Would a team that plays together week in week out be better than a collection of England's best footballers?
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I reckon we'd take them.LoveCurryPies wrote:If our current Burnley squad were to play the current England squad (minus our players), who do you think would win? Would a team that plays together week in week out be better than a collection of England's best footballers?
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Would be a proper friendly!Sidney1st wrote:I reckon we'd take them.
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Burnley v England. Can anyone make this happen?
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With Harry Kane, England. Without, I think we'd have a chance. He's England's only top-top-top (Merson style) player.LoveCurryPies wrote:If our current Burnley squad were to play the current England squad (minus our players), who do you think would win? Would a team that plays together week in week out be better than a collection of England's best footballers?
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Burnley would win without a doubt.LoveCurryPies wrote:If our current Burnley squad were to play the current England squad (minus our players), who do you think would win? Would a team that plays together week in week out be better than a collection of England's best footballers?
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Seans just a brilliant human. Forget football nouse and all that. He’s a good man and thats why he gets out of the players what he does.
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Is it just me that thinks that Dyche would be foolish to take on the England job? Call it controversial but i honestly don't think it would suit him.
At present he can vet any incoming players and only signs those he deems as having the right personality. With England he only has a certain pool of players to pick from. That is his lot. Lots of primadonnas, egos, big club charlies. He would be almost forced to select players that wouldnt neccessarily suit the way he works and that have his ethos.
Add to that he would only have a week or so before any game to get them "Dyche fit" and to fit in with his style.
These are crucial aspects to the way he works. He can mould a team together. Build a team. With England this is not really possible and he will be trying to train players that already have a style of play ingrained into them by their own club manager. A problem any England manager faces.
Team spirit and togetherness is also a biggy. Getting players from a variety of clubs for just a week and bonding them in total togetherness?...nah..can't see it.
The England job would not suit SD at all.
At present he can vet any incoming players and only signs those he deems as having the right personality. With England he only has a certain pool of players to pick from. That is his lot. Lots of primadonnas, egos, big club charlies. He would be almost forced to select players that wouldnt neccessarily suit the way he works and that have his ethos.
Add to that he would only have a week or so before any game to get them "Dyche fit" and to fit in with his style.
These are crucial aspects to the way he works. He can mould a team together. Build a team. With England this is not really possible and he will be trying to train players that already have a style of play ingrained into them by their own club manager. A problem any England manager faces.
Team spirit and togetherness is also a biggy. Getting players from a variety of clubs for just a week and bonding them in total togetherness?...nah..can't see it.
The England job would not suit SD at all.
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Re: Dyche is England manager by stealth The Times today
He could apply the same things to the England job.
England managers restrict themselves to a pool of players because they seemingly pick the best players and not the best team.
I suspect Dyche would pick the best team, much to the disgust of most football fans and the media.
England managers restrict themselves to a pool of players because they seemingly pick the best players and not the best team.
I suspect Dyche would pick the best team, much to the disgust of most football fans and the media.
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'Burnley manager is off on a quick skiing trip during the international break, and no wonder with 16 players away with their countries after enjoying such good form under their charismatic manager.'
Have we really got 16 players away on international duty?
Have we really got 16 players away on international duty?
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Re: Dyche is England manager by stealth The Times today
Joey B
Pope & Tarks
Vokes
Hendrick & Long? - I'm assuming Ward didn't get a call up.
Arfield.
Wood isn't off with New Zealand this time round.
Pope & Tarks
Vokes
Hendrick & Long? - I'm assuming Ward didn't get a call up.
Arfield.
Wood isn't off with New Zealand this time round.
Re: Dyche is England manager by stealth The Times today
Apparently the mountain has come to him .Stalbansclaret wrote:Not sure what SD is doing on a skiing holiday mind you...thought he was injured !
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I was interviewed outside the ground before the West Ham game, along with Tony, JDR and a few others. The question they broadcast was whether we could achieve similar next season. My answer was as long as Sean Dyche is Manager, without a doubt we can. They also asked whether Sean was our biggest asset (100% that he is) and whether there was a risk we would lose him. I asked where he would go that would be better than where he is now and that he has just signed a 4.5 year deal so would be very expensive if anyone did fancy a punt. And finally that I felt we would lose SD in 2022 when he is appointed England manager after the latest failure in the World Cup. Time will tell....
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Re: Dyche is England manager by stealth The Times today
Absolutely spot on is that - he gets back the respect and honesty he gives the players.Dyched wrote:Seans just a brilliant human. Forget football nouse and all that. He’s a good man and thats why he gets out of the players what he does.
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I was thinking the same. When does a bloke who’s been involved in football all his life have chance to learn to ski?Stalbansclaret wrote:Not sure what SD is doing on a skiing holiday mind you...thought he was injured !
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I don’t think he’d even consider it - certainly not at this stage of his career. Apart from it being a total career dead-end, SD strikes me as someone who needs the day-to-day involvement. The only reason he might be interested is a way of proving he can handle “big egos”, but the odds wouldn’t be on his side - certainly with the current crop of players!Somethingfishy wrote:Is it just me that thinks that Dyche would be foolish to take on the England job? Call it controversial but i honestly don't think it would suit him.
At present he can vet any incoming players and only signs those he deems as having the right personality. With England he only has a certain pool of players to pick from. That is his lot. Lots of primadonnas, egos, big club charlies. He would be almost forced to select players that wouldnt neccessarily suit the way he works and that have his ethos.
Add to that he would only have a week or so before any game to get them "Dyche fit" and to fit in with his style.
These are crucial aspects to the way he works. He can mould a team together. Build a team. With England this is not really possible and he will be trying to train players that already have a style of play ingrained into them by their own club manager. A problem any England manager faces.
Team spirit and togetherness is also a biggy. Getting players from a variety of clubs for just a week and bonding them in total togetherness?...nah..can't see it.
The England job would not suit SD at all.
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Re: Dyche is England manager by stealth The Times today
Great OP and some great responses. Dyche is a top manager and top human being...... compare him to that odious little portugese turd at Man U and you almost feel sorry for their fans.
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Not 16 then? So why is SD off skiing? Because the season is over in his eyes, perhaps?Sidney1st wrote:Joey B
Pope & Tarks
Vokes
Hendrick & Long? - I'm assuming Ward didn't get a call up.
Arfield.
Wood isn't off with New Zealand this time round.
Great attitude!
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He doesn't need to handle big egos.scouseclaret wrote:I don’t think he’d even consider it - certainly not at this stage of his career. Apart from it being a total career dead-end, SD strikes me as someone who needs the day-to-day involvement. The only reason he might be interested is a way of proving he can handle “big egos”, but the odds wouldn’t be on his side - certainly with the current crop of players!
He researches the players he's interested in signing first because he doesn't want the stupid egos.
With egos comes problems and we'd end up with someone like Mahrez unable to play because his heads up his arse.
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Re: Dyche is England manager by stealth The Times today
A very good article. More considered and insightful than most. Henry Winter is usually sound, but I have got very irritated by what seems to be his one man crusade to get Arsene Wenger sacked. Journalists should report what is happening - not try and influence events.
IMHO, of course.
As an aside, I don't see why Chris Hughton having played for Ireland has to do with his suitability, or otherwise, for managing the England team ( as commented on above) Sven and Fabio weren't born in England - which Chris Hughton was - and they both managed the national side.
IMHO, of course.
As an aside, I don't see why Chris Hughton having played for Ireland has to do with his suitability, or otherwise, for managing the England team ( as commented on above) Sven and Fabio weren't born in England - which Chris Hughton was - and they both managed the national side.