Kit Manufacturer Next Season

BFC123 · Post by **BFC123** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:24 pm

Is this our last year of the Puma deal? If so, does anyone know if we’re changing manufacturer?

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:08 pm

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:16 pm

How long do we have to be in the PL to get a bespoke strip, like Arsenal?

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:18 pm

piston broke wrote:How long do we have to be in the PL to get a bespoke strip, like Arsenal?

Oi fam, when we start talking like them on our own TV channel we will get the same stuff, alright Bruv?
Blud, innit.

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:32 pm

You can have what you want, within the regulations, if you are prepared to pay for it.

So, generic kit it is for us then.

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:37 pm

No qualms with Puma this year. Both this season’s kits are fantastic.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:45 pm

Absolutely. The away strip is excellent

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:42 pm

Home one is best wev had for years

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:50 pm

cutsy123 wrote:Home one is best wev had for years

Really? Must look better live than on the telly.
I prefer West Ham's kit.

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:52 pm

When does the Puma deal run out?

I forever look on enviously at West Ham’s home shirts. Classic , traditional.

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:54 pm

I'd love an under armour kit not gonna lie... Purely for the training gear range...

Although I've always wondered what a kappa Burnley shirt would look like this

Yeahhhh probably look awful

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:57 pm

CoolClaret wrote:I'd love an under armour kit not gonna lie... Purely for the training gear range...

Although I've always wondered what a kappa Burnley shirt would look like this

Yeahhhh probably look awful

Probably like the Leeds one. (Most recent Kappa kit I can remember)

Not good if you need to lose a few pounds.

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:12 pm

chekhov wrote:Really? Must look better live than on the telly.
I prefer West Ham's kit.

Yeah nice fit too

Cheshireclaret · Post by **Cheshireclaret** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:23 pm

Another vote here for Under Armour. I can’t recall but I thought next season was the last for the current Puma deal?

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:41 pm

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:Probably like the Leeds one. (Most recent Kappa kit I can remember)

Not good if you need to lose a few pounds.

Somebody at Kappa has put in the hard yards designing that Leeds kit.

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:42 pm

This season's kits are the best in years.

whalleyclaret · Post by **whalleyclaret** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:14 pm

This seasons shirts are excellent - however Home strip needs white shorts please for us traditionalists and either white or claret and blue hooped socks next season!

CFS · Post by **CFS** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:20 pm

Hopped socks and play naked for all I care.

bumba · Post by **bumba** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:25 pm

cutsy123 wrote:Home one is best wev had for years

Away kit is best we've had in years, I think home kit is a shocker we those stupid dots all over and blue shorts.
Not liked it one bit

Billyblah · Post by **Billyblah** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:27 pm

CFS wrote:Hopped socks and play naked for all I care.

The lads are gonna hop around, butt naked except for socks?!

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:29 pm

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:Probably like the Leeds one. (Most recent Kappa kit I can remember)

Not good if you need to lose a few pounds.

It's a good job that I'm an Adonis then

CFS · Post by **CFS** » Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:35 pm

Billyblah wrote:The lads are gonna hop around, butt naked except for socks?!

Sorry meant hooped socks which are must have.

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:47 pm

I rarely buy our shirts but even I bought the home one this season - I think it's the best we've had for many years. The away kit is quality as well, apart from the Play Golf Clash on the sleeve, but we can't blame Puma for that!

PremierLeagueClass · Post by **PremierLeagueClass** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:59 am

Anybody know the answer to this question? I was under the impression we were with them for a while yet?

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:03 am

Technically the kit manufacturer is Genesis Sports, using a licence from Puma

Genesis Sports, based at the Sharston Industrial Estate, Wythenshawe, has won a new contract to continue as suppliers of Puma team sports kits, training wear and accessories in the UK and Ireland.

The licence will allow the £7.5m turnover company to build on its established partnerships with professional football clubs including Reading and Cardiff City, as well as rugby union and league teams.

Managing director John Howarth said: “We’ve just reached our tenth anniversary of working with Puma, so signing on the dotted line with them to extend the partnership is a real boost for us and provides us with a springboard for future growth.

“We can continue to deliver exceptional service to our partner clubs but this latest deal also allows us to spread our wings and widen our provision of high quality technical kit and training wear.”

Among the teams that play in kits made by Genesis are Burnley, Sheffield Wednesday, Preston North End, rugby union team Bath and rugby league's Castleford Tigers.

Genesis has also recently entered the education market in a move to broaden its revenue streams by supplying playing and training gear to college, university and school sports teams.

Tony Ward, general manager for Puma in the UK, said: “The team at Genesis Sports is equipped with the knowledge and industry expertise to give professional football clubs all the products and service they need.

“We’re happy to have completed this new deal with the company and look forward to developing our business partnership over the coming decade.”

Genesis, which has 45 staff, was founded in 1995 by Jonathan Hamburger, who is the current chairman, and John Howarth who is now the managing director.

Genesis has also re-launched its e-commerce website which offers a range of Puma kit, training wear, boots and accessories for professional and amateur football, rugby union and rugby league players.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... ma-4802887

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:54 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:Technically the kit manufacturer is Genesis Sports, using a licence from Puma

It was Genesis but I'm sure someone posted on the board a while ago that it was no longer the case.

In any case, we are still with Puma next season. Just hope the rumour I've heard that the away kit could be black is just that, a rumour.

Garnerssoap · Post by **Garnerssoap** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:00 am

Funkydrummer wrote:You can have what you want, within the regulations, if you are prepared to pay for it.

So, generic kit it is for us then.

I’ve heard this before. I’m no Alan Sugar but shouldn’t puma pay us to do our kits

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:00 am

Genesis, never the same since Peter Gabriel left.

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:19 am

ClaretTony wrote: Just hope the rumour I've heard that the away kit could be black is just that, a rumour.

I didn’t mind the black kit. I wasn’t so keen on the silver trim, but I thought it was nice. You can’t have white, yellow or blue every year, it’s nice to mix it up from time to time.

I’d like to see the design of this seasons away kit in Claret and Blue for the Home strip.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:21 am

claptrappers_union wrote:You can’t have white, yellow or blue every year

Don't know why not, they are the three popular colours that we can all relate to. The black and silver concoctions didn't sell either.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:21 am

Garnerssoap wrote:I’ve heard this before. I’m no Alan Sugar but shouldn’t puma pay us to do our kits

That's what you'd expect. The kit deals for most of the major clubs involve a high initial payment to the club and then royalties after a (generally very large) number of shirts are sold. It is possible that the payment/royalty would be lower with a bespoke kit given we don't sell huge volumes.

I imagine our deal isn't great which is partly made up for by the fact that we only sell in the clubshop so generate more profit there (but will limit people outside Burnley buying the shirt).

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:32 am

ClaretTony wrote:Don't know why not, they are the three popular colours that we can all relate to. The black and silver concoctions didn't sell either.

With Tony on this. I prefer our away kit colour to somehow relate to us as a club. White and blue are obvious, yellow less so, although there’s now a tradition going back 40 years of us wearing yellow away, so I don’t mind (and it’s the first away kit I owned as well).

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:34 am

martin_p wrote:With Tony on this. I prefer our away kit colour to somehow relate to us as a club. White and blue are obvious, yellow less so, although there’s now a tradition going back 40 years of us wearing yellow away, so I don’t mind (and it’s the first away kit I owned as well).

I include yellow for that very reason, we've been using it for over 40 years now and it is considered one of our colours for away kits. It's not a colour I like personally, and have never owned a yellow away shirt, but it has to be included.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:35 am

aggi wrote: I imagine our deal isn't great which is partly made up for by the fact that we only sell in the clubshop so generate more profit there (but will limit people outside Burnley buying the shirt).

You’d think it was time to take another look at this decision given:

a) you’d expect a wider market outside Burnley these days given our success, and

b) profit from shirt sales can’t be as big a deal as it was given the vast amounts of TV money we now get.

whentheballmoves · Post by **whentheballmoves** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:38 am

On the away kit, have a vote, like they did a fair few years ago now.
Everyone with a Clarets Number gets one vote.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:41 am

whentheballmoves wrote:On the away kit, have a vote, like they did a fair few years ago now.
Everyone with a Clarets Number gets one vote.

ha ha - that was in the Andrew Watson days. They were already manufacturing it and the vote could only ever going to have one result. Hardly surprising from him though.

I do think having a vote is a decent idea though.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:44 am

martin_p wrote:With Tony on this. I prefer our away kit colour to somehow relate to us as a club. White and blue are obvious, yellow less so, although there’s now a tradition going back 40 years of us wearing yellow away, so I don’t mind (and it’s the first away kit I owned as well).

We've had some great and iconic yellow kits, and personally I prefer them

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:49 am

I too hope we don't have black away shirts. I've always thought on a dark winters night that for players wearing black shirts it can't be easy for their teamates to pick them out in the distance. I'm sure I once read Fergie mentioning this.

4:20 · Post by **4:20** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:00 pm

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Forgetting the design for a moment, but I absolutely love it when we do a yellow and claret away kit, especially when bit colours are subdued a little.

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THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:03 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:We've had some great and iconic yellow kits, and personally I prefer them

The kit at the top which Sir Billy Hamilton is wearing had a magic badge!

Half the team wore it with the crest on the left breast and the other had the crest also bang in the middle, sometimes if a replacement shirt was needed mid match the player could have a shirt with a magic badge where it had moved position on the players original shirt

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:04 pm

Yellow and Claret together is the absolute business.

I did like the Blue and Claret one in the Play Off season though.

This season's kits are good as well.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:10 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Don't know why not, they are the three popular colours that we can all relate to. The black and silver concoctions didn't sell either.

This. Black and Silver have nothing to do with us. If someone at the club makes a decision to have a black kit I hope they say publicly that they made the decision. It will be an awful one.

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:17 pm

Yellow and claret is my favourite combo for an away kit, with white in 2nd place.

Not a fan of blue away kits at all, but they're still better than black.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:31 pm

Walton wrote:Yellow and claret is my favourite combo for an away kit, with white in 2nd place.

Not a fan of blue away kits at all, but they're still better than black.

It's all personal choice and white is my preferred option. But these are the three colours we've come to expect for our away kit and I think we should probably just alternate them in three year cycles.

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:34 pm

Random trivia - I have Ted McMinn's Yellow and Black shirt, framed on my wall, from the Boro v Burnley game pictured with Davis and Robson.

Back onto the topic, I like the yellow / claret combo and particularly liked the #awaywego style pictured with DEAN MARNEY, featuring the claret and yellow hooped socks. That said, I am a big fan of the current away shirt.

What about a black / tinfoil silver quarters style away shirt...

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:40 pm

Darthlaw wrote:Random trivia - I have Ted McMinn's Yellow and Black shirt, framed on my wall, from the Boro v Burnley game pictured with Davis and Robson.

No one had seen that shirt until the team came out at Middlesbrough that day - no mention of it previously.

Darthlaw wrote:What about a black / tinfoil silver quarters style away shirt...

Behave

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:56 pm

ClaretTony wrote:No one had seen that shirt until the team came out at Middlesbrough that day - no mention of it previously.

And there was me thinking it meant the earth, purely because it had been worn by my claret hero.

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:18 pm

I'm up for a black away kit but only if we get some lovely jade halves on it.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:24 pm

Nothing beats the green/black quadrants

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:52 pm

A lot of the World Cup kits have a retro feel and I'd be more than happy for that to be the case with our away kit if we had an updated version of the Billy Hamilton number. That's a proper kit, love it!