Life bans confirmed at West Ham

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:16 am

West Ham have issued lifetime bans to five individuals who invaded pitch against Burnley on March 10. A number of individuals have also been banned for life for throwing coins and objects.

tybfc · Post by **tybfc** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:20 am

After watching how their team performed they are all probably pleased.

simonclaret · Post by **simonclaret** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:23 am

When are they likely to hear about any sanction for the club?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:39 am

simonclaret wrote:When are they likely to hear about any sanction for the club?

That's a different process. The FA are investigating that and it is they who will take action against West Ham. This is West Ham trying to get their house in a bit of order I would think by banning those who they've identified as either pitch encroachment or missile throwing.

None of this gets to the problem though which is the situation between club and fans, particularly with the move to the London Stadium. It wasn't helped recently when Karren Brady, reportedly, met with their right wing group. They've moved forward on that this week with Sullivan having a meeting with their ISA who have called it a positive first meeting. To be honest, I think it is going to take a hell of a lot for them to come to any sort of agreement on things.

This morning's statement from West Ham re the life bans.

West Ham United can confirm that swift and decisive action has been taken against a number of spectators who breached stadium regulations or were found to have committed acts of severe violence and physical aggression at our recent Premier League match against Burnley.

Lifetime bans from all West Ham United matches, both home and away, have today been issued to five individuals who crossed safety barriers to enter the field of play – a criminal offence that is a severe breach of stadium safety regulations - while a number of individuals have also been banned for life for violently throwing coins or objects with intent to injure or harm on the bridge directly in front of the Directors’ Box.

Furthermore, a number of additional incidents, including attempted pitch incursions and acts of violence, are currently being investigated in collaboration with stadium operators LS185 and the police. The Club expect to issue further bans based on witness statements and the high quality CCTV footage available, prior to our next home match against Southampton on 31 March.

West Ham United would like to reiterate that the safety and security of our supporters, players and staff remains our absolute priority at London Stadium. We take a zero tolerance approach to any form of violence that endangers the welfare of others, and we are committed to ensuring a safe and comfortable environment for all spectators.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:48 am

The bloke who was chased up the stand to the right of us gave it a real go at getting away, I'm impressed if they physically caught him.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:49 am

Sidney1st wrote:The bloke who was chased up the stand to the right of us gave it a real go at getting away, I'm impressed if they physically caught him.

No arrests on the day, all been done with CCTV apparently although one pitch encroacher gave himself up.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:50 am

Yeah I saw that in the news about the bloke who handed himself in.

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:56 am

some of those pitch invaders moved a lot quicker than most the west ham players. ive no idea how some of their players didn't get escorted away for invading the pitch

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:57 am

The hipster looking prick certainly got a seeing to, for one

claret wizard · Post by **claret wizard** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:46 am

ZizkovClaret wrote:The hipster looking prick certainly got a seeing to, for one

There's video on you tube where you can see other West Ham fans punching him in the face as he returns to his seat.

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:53 am

claret wizard wrote:There's video on you tube where you can see other West Ham fans punching him in the face as he returns to his seat.

Yup, not great, but if you will put down your soy latte and enter the playing surface, that can well happen.

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:16 pm

I hope West Ham get a ban. The club have got the stadium for next to nowt and can't be arsed implementing the appropriate security to police their chavvy Essex supporters.
Throw the book at the dildo Kings I say

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:24 pm

Given they dont have their own security the people banned will most likely still attend

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:46 pm

Most of those fans banned for life will be diehard West Ham fans who have watched what is going on at their club with disdain.. We all know what it feels like when your club is on a downward spiral to oblivion don't we ? . Got to feel for them really ,It's just a shame they couldn't find a better way to protest than going on the pitch and disrupting the game like they did... I'm sure they will still find a way of watching the Hammers though..

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:48 pm

They're hardly in a downward spiral.

They're where everyone else expected West Ham to be, just the fans expected to be higher up the table.

JimmyMac'sMate · Post by **JimmyMac'sMate** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:55 pm

One person they have been studying on ctv ran on the pitch but did nothing so let him off his name Hendrick keep smiling utc

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 1:38 pm

Sidney1st wrote:They're hardly in a downward spiral.

They're where everyone else expected West Ham to be, just the fans expected to be higher up the table.

You've hit the nail on the head there Sidney1st!!

Since the millennium they've had 3 seasons outside the PL, finished top half PL 6 times and the rest has been mid-lower PL; exactly where they are now. They might think they should be doing better but they certainly don't have a recent history that suggests they'll do that (they've only finished higher than 9th once since 2000 for example). The stadium is a mess, the Boardroom is a mess, but the team is pretty much doing what they always do!!

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 1:46 pm

So Mark Noble gets a life ban then? Mmmm, they'll be needing a new captain I take it. (Let's hope the CCTV isn't that good or Our Ashley might get one too!)

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:04 pm

Dark Cloud wrote: Let's hope the CCTV isn't that good or Our Ashley might get one too!

Wenger said '...I saw nawthing!...'

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:05 pm

The one who handed himself in was the one who planted the corner flag on the centre spot was a 61 year old who has supported them for 49 years.

pureclaret · Post by **pureclaret** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:13 pm

Just wonder what life time ban means, is it 15 years, 10 years , or 1 season 2 seasons as they did not kill any one I did not see any of the supporters who ran on hit or kick or throw any one to the floor (did see two people who did throw someone and one kick a fan). Yes it is an offence but then there have been quite a few pitch invasions etc where either no bans or 2 years.

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:29 pm

Be interesting to see how lifetime bans are actually enforced. Do they have an automatic electronic system for identifying names? A rogues gallery of photographs in the ticket office and in the pockets of stewards? I suspect that most of them will give this season a miss but find ways to get back on to see games.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:31 pm

Bans are only as good as the system enforcing them.

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:17 pm

According to that irate bloke on YouTube they weren't West Ham fans but 'trendy's'. Apparantly if you have a beard and modern clothes you ain't a faaaakin pwopa geezer wurvee of suppowtin the faaaakin Iron!

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:38 pm

A trendy?

What the actual **** is one of those?
Are they a different species of football fan

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:49 pm

jlup1980 wrote:You've hit the nail on the head there Sidney1st!!

Since the millennium they've had 3 seasons outside the PL, finished top half PL 6 times and the rest has been mid-lower PL; exactly where they are now. They might think they should be doing better but they certainly don't have a recent history that suggests they'll do that (they've only finished higher than 9th once since 2000 for example). The stadium is a mess, the Boardroom is a mess, but the team is pretty much doing what they always do!!

While that is true what you have to also consider is that theyre performing at a similar level having moved from their spiritual home.

Had Burnley been moved to Nelson. The turf buldozed and sold off. Us move into a non footballing stadium at next to no cost with the promise of investment amd champions league and we were battling where we had always been I wouldnt pitch invade id burn the new place down!!!

Id sooner be where weve always been in the stadium weve always been than move to some flash new stadium out of town and be no better.

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:03 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:While that is true what you have to also consider is that theyre performing at a similar level having moved from their spiritual home.

Had Burnley been moved to Nelson. The turf buldozed and sold off. Us move into a non footballing stadium at next to no cost with the promise of investment amd champions league and we were battling where we had always been I wouldnt pitch invade id burn the new place down!!!

Id sooner be where weve always been in the stadium weve always been than move to some flash new stadium out of town and be no better.

"Had Burnley been moved to Nelson. The turf buldozed and sold off. Us move into a non footballing stadium at next to no cost with the promise of investment amd champions league and we were battling where we had always been I wouldnt pitch invade id burn the new place down!!!"

That's probably their next move..

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:14 pm

They've only been in the place a couple of seasons now.

It takes time to find the right manager and then build the squad for a crack at CL football.
Or were they expecting it to change over night??

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:46 pm

Sidney1st wrote:They've only been in the place a couple of seasons now.

It takes time to find the right manager and then build the squad for a crack at CL football.
Or were they expecting it to change over night??

I dont disagree but I too would be very impatient. Seeing clubs like Leicester win the league will only make it worse for WHU. One off or not!

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:51 pm

Leicester were in a unique situation where everyone was working together at the exact same time the top clubs had a rubbish season at virtually the same time.

Compare that to the following season when the top teams sorted themselves out, Chelsea poached Kante, the team struggled and eventually appeared to down tools for Ranieri.
That one season it all lined up nicely for Leicester who worked very hard to get that title, but any other season and it wouldn't happen.

West Ham are just a shambles, poor transfers, some odd managerial appointments etc.

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:01 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:While that is true what you have to also consider is that theyre performing at a similar level having moved from their spiritual home.

Had Burnley been moved to Nelson. The turf buldozed and sold off. Us move into a non footballing stadium at next to no cost with the promise of investment amd champions league and we were battling where we had always been I wouldnt pitch invade id burn the new place down!!!

Id sooner be where weve always been in the stadium weve always been than move to some flash new stadium out of town and be no better.

I agree completely with what you're saying. The off field side of things is an abomination. The change of stadium has been a total disaster. I don't think I've heard a single positive thing about the new stadium from a footballing viewpoint.

If we moved from the turf I'd hope to move into a purpose built football stadium at the very least! Surely that's a prerequisite for any club... apart from West Ham of course!!

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:05 pm

I think those who think it is down to results are wide of the mark.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 5:19 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I think those who think it is down to results are wide of the mark.

I think you're right up to a point, but I do wonder how vociferous the whole campaign would be if they were 7th in the league and looking comfortable. For some, I agree it would make no difference, but for a lot they just wouldn't be joining in or rocking the boat I suspect.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:12 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:I think you're right up to a point, but I do wonder how vociferous the whole campaign would be if they were 7th in the league and looking comfortable. For some, I agree it would make no difference, but for a lot they just wouldn't be joining in or rocking the boat I suspect.

The results are definitely part of it. Perhaps a convenient excuse.

If they were top not many would be complaining. I doubt any at City are now.

Clubs shouldnt move so far though. Its just a more local MK Dons. Stratford and West Ham are two completely different places.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:22 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:I think you're right up to a point, but I do wonder how vociferous the whole campaign would be if they were 7th in the league and looking comfortable. For some, I agree it would make no difference, but for a lot they just wouldn't be joining in or rocking the boat I suspect.

Agree to some extent Dark Cloud and no doubt those who ran on would not have done so had we not taken the lead. But the campaign has been going on a lot longer than the disappointing results, stretching back right to the beginning of last season. Nothing has been done, the club have buried their heads in the sand and this is the result.

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:25 pm

Sidney1st wrote:A trendy?

What the actual **** is one of those?
Are they a different species of football fan

They're the types who drink Gin.

Last year they were drinking Prosecco and the year before that, Vodka...

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:29 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:I think you're right up to a point, but I do wonder how vociferous the whole campaign would be if they were 7th in the league and looking comfortable. For some, I agree it would make no difference, but for a lot they just wouldn't be joining in or rocking the boat I suspect.

Yellow and green scarf brigade at Man U went quiet when the team were still winning under Fergie.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:15 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Yellow and green scarf brigade at Man U went quiet when the team were still winning under Fergie.

To be fair their campaign was ludicrous! The Glazers have been their most succesful ever owners!

Burnleyareback2 · Post by **Burnleyareback2** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:26 pm

JohnMac wrote:They're the types who drink Gin.

Last year they were drinking Prosecco and the year before that, Vodka...

Could we organise a Plastics v Trendy’s pre season game? Perhaps at MK Dons or the Venkys Bucket stadium?

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:43 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote: Stratford and West Ham are two completely different places.

Google maps: 3.3 miles between Boleyn Ground and London Stadium. 15 minutes drive through London traffic. 30 minutes public transport. Under an hour to walk.

I think it's only because the Olympics cleared everything before constructing all of Queen Elizabeth Park, including London Stadium and Westfield developed the shopping centre that the place is different from Upton Park/Boleyn.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:13 pm

Paul Waine wrote:Google maps: 3.3 miles between Boleyn Ground and London Stadium. 15 minutes drive through London traffic. 30 minutes public transport. Under an hour to walk.

I think it's only because the Olympics cleared everything before constructing all of Queen Elizabeth Park, including London Stadium and Westfield developed the shopping centre that the place is different from Upton Park/Boleyn.

I can walk to Nelson from the turf in less than an hour. I wouldnt want us to move there!

My dad lived in Stratford for some time, before the Olympics. Definitely a different place. Its the same distance and time roughly as Spurs to Arsenal.