ARTICLE: Heaton available but Mee and JBG doubtful

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:44 pm

Early team news for trip to Watford

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Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:00 pm

There goes any chance of a clean sheet if Mee is injured.

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:08 pm

What's up with them? Article quite short and sweet.

clarethead · Post by **clarethead** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:17 pm

I know it's been discussed already, but wow, what a decision the Manager has... pull Pope and damage his England World Cup chances or keep Tom on the bench and damage his own and probably last World Cup chance. Dyche, I am sure, will probably only be thinking about Burnley FC, but who knows what is best for us... neither deserve to be on the bench for these last few (but important) games...

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:19 pm

Milltown1882 wrote:There goes any chance of a clean sheet if Mee is injured.

Against teams from the top 6, we haven't kept a clean sheet whoever played. Against teams outside the top 6, Long has played 6 games with 3 clean sheets and 3 total goals conceded.

Moorite · Post by **Moorite** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:27 pm

dsr wrote:Against teams from the top 6, we haven't kept a clean sheet whoever played. Against teams outside the top 6, Long has played 6 games with 3 clean sheets and 3 total goals conceded.

4 of them games was in place of Tarky. Mee was still playing.

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:28 pm

clarethead wrote:I know it's been discussed already, but wow, what a decision the Manager has... pull Pope and damage his England World Cup chances or keep Tom on the bench and damage his own and probably last World Cup chance. Dyche, I am sure, will probably only be thinking about Burnley FC, but who knows what is best for us... neither deserve to be on the bench for these last few (but important) games...

Personally don` think it is a `decision` at all. Pope has been outstanding since Heaton`s injury and will not be dropped. If he was (which he won`t) it would go against the mantra of `the shirt is yours until you lose it` which seems to be at the heart of Dyche`s team/group ethos. Saying that, Taylor was excellent and growing into his left-back role but Ward eventually got `his` shirt back.

Alas, I fear it`ll be Pickford, Butland and incredibly Hart (if they want his experience, just give Hart an `ambassador` role a la Beckham) on the plane to Russia.

One hell of a decision to make though for Dyche at the end of the season as I don`t see both Pope and Heaton with us next season. Both of `em are Top 7 Premier League keepers

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:29 pm

Moorite wrote:4 of them games was in place of Tarky. Mee was still playing.

Ben Mee has missed two games this season - Watford and Stoke at home - we kept clean sheets in both.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:37 pm

There is no way that he will drop Pope. And rightly so even though Heaton is the better keeper and captain.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:42 pm

Heaton is just going to have to wait until pre season then battle it out with Pope for the number 1 spot. As for Saturday with Mee and JBG doubtful in Dyche speak usually means not a cat in hells chance of playing.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:44 pm

No reason whatsoever for Pope to be dropped. Performing magnificently.

And Kevin Long will do his customary efficient fill-in.(if required)
Yes, a couple of goals could be laid at his door when he's played, like losing his man at
Newcastle (i think), but overall he's done a good job. No-one's claiming he's another Mee or Tarks.

We'll be fine.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:47 pm

Make them play with one leg!

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:18 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:There is no way that he will drop Pope. And rightly so even though Heaton is the better keeper and captain.

I honestly don't think we've missed Heaton's captaincy.
For a GK he's a good captain, but I'd prefers an outfield player and Mee has more than stepped up.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:20 pm

Mee unavailable? or not selected?

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:37 pm

He says Mee is "doubtful", bill.
Thats usually manager-speak for injured.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:43 pm

If there is no Mee who will be captain ? Pope should keep the shirt too.

Ashingtonclaret46 · Post by **Ashingtonclaret46** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:44 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:No reason whatsoever for Pope to be dropped. Performing magnificently.

And Kevin Long will do his customary efficient fill-in.(if required)
Yes, a couple of goals could be laid at his door when he's played, like losing his man at
Newcastle (i think), but overall he's done a good job. No-one's claiming he's another Mee or Tarks.

We'll be fine.

It wasn't Newcastle because that was a penalty when Bardsley fouled Kenedy on the far edge of the box.

Long has done a good job when called on as far as I am concerned although, at a pinch, we could bring Tom in and use Nick's height at centre back!

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:01 pm

Blackrod wrote:If there is no Mee who will be captain ? Pope should keep the shirt too.

I would guess at Cork or perhaps Ward.

That said Westwood captained Crewe and sometimes Villa at a young age. We have plenty of leaders throughout the team.

BleedingClaret · Post by **BleedingClaret** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:07 pm

Blackrod wrote:If there is no Mee who will be captain ? Pope should keep the shirt too.

Tarks or Cork

Heaton's Gloves · Post by **Heaton's Gloves** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:10 pm

boatshed bill wrote:Mee unavailable? or not selected?

My thoughts exactly! Won’t sign then fair do’s. Need to start looking to replace methinks. Will be a sad loss, but cannot have players bigger than the club.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:17 pm

Heaton's Gloves wrote:My thoughts exactly! Won’t sign then fair do’s. Need to start looking to replace methinks. Will be a sad loss, but cannot have players bigger than the club.

People really think this? And even more so, are ready for us to move him on without any evidence that he isnt happy?

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:18 pm

Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:It wasn't Newcastle because that was a penalty when Bardsley fouled Kenedy on the far edge of the box.

But wasnt that penalty saved? Lascelles scored for them, ours went down as an own goal.
Im sure that was the match Kevin Long lost his marker for their goal, could be wrong, though.

But Pope definitely saved the peno.

Heaton's Gloves · Post by **Heaton's Gloves** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:24 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:People really think this? And even more so, are ready for us to move him on without any evidence that he isnt happy?

It think it’s possible given that our manager has said more than once recently that he is ‘not concerned’ that Mee has not signed a new contract. He could go for free at the end of next season. I hope this clears up my perfectly rational belief. He may be injured, but it’s the first I’ve heard of it. Anybody else wanting to question what is my opinion, I hope this explanation helps a little. No long lists of follow on snowflake comments. Cheers.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:33 pm

boatshed bill wrote:Mee unavailable? or not selected?

I'm surprised you would think SD that childish and amateurish. Seventh place and Europe are up for grabs. We go strong all the way.

Ashingtonclaret46 · Post by **Ashingtonclaret46** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:51 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:But wasnt that penalty saved? Lascelles scored for them, ours went down as an own goal.
Im sure that was the match Kevin Long lost his marker for their goal, could be wrong, though.

But Pope definitely saved the peno.

Electro --you are correct. It was the first game I saw this year after suffering a bad head injury ----I should have got the brain in order! Thanks for putting me right.

CleggHall · Post by **CleggHall** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:52 pm

Correct Electro, penalty at Newcastle was saved but Long lost his man when Lascelles headed in from a corner.
Ashington comes from a pit village and has no head for heights up in the Gods at the Leazes end!

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:59 pm

Ben Mee and SD far too professional to play silly games ,though the Mee fan boys seem hysterical that he may move on and we’ll simply replace him .Id be sad to see him go but if he does we quickly move on .

Ashingtonclaret46 · Post by **Ashingtonclaret46** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:01 pm

CleggHall wrote:Correct Electro, penalty at Newcastle was saved but Long lost his man when Lascelles headed in from a corner.
Ashington comes from a pit village and has no head for heights up in the Gods at the Leazes end!

Haha Clegg --except I was sat in with the Toon fans ---the advantage of living in a pit village and supporting Burnley.
It is a good job that I can just enjoy a game without getting too involved these days and can sit in an area nearer to the pitch!

ClaretAL · Post by **ClaretAL** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:55 pm

Wasn't it about this time last year where Mee {and Keano)suffered a very unpublished injury and we finished the season with a makeshift back 4? Move on the cards?

Jimmymaccer · Post by **Jimmymaccer** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:01 pm

Ooh eck, the same injury Keano got with just a few games to go!

So

“A message, to you Ben Mee, don’t go.......
A message to you Ben Mee, don’t go..........”

As Lord Barton would sing........

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:06 pm

piston broke wrote:I'm surprised you would think SD that childish and amateurish. Seventh place and Europe are up for grabs. We go strong all the way.

I don't "think" anything about this. Just asking. There is nowhere saying Mee is injured as far as I know.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:16 pm

Sorry if its been already asked but what injury is Ben Mee carrying and approx. how long is he expected to be out

Duffer_ · Post by **Duffer_** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:18 pm

Broken wrist and about 9 weeks...according to some.

UTC!

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:19 pm

Heard he is touch and go.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:20 pm

That's not good-so out for the season and presumably done in training

claretlegend · Post by **claretlegend** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:24 pm

Dyche despcribed it as a 'knock' in the ClaretsPlayer interview today.

Darnhill Claret · Post by **Darnhill Claret** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:25 pm

Broken wrist won't keep Ben out. He's well hard as we know already.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:00 pm

CT's article on the other thread says he's "doubtful".

Manager- speak which usually translates as injured.

Vintage Claret · Post by **Vintage Claret** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:00 pm

If they are 'doubtful' there's a chance they might play, if they are 'touch and go' we probably won't see them again this season

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:12 pm

His legs fallen off.

So hell prob be fit by sat.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:20 pm

Put in a transfer request didn't he? Clearly downed tools so he doesn't jeopardise his transfer back to City.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:42 pm

Will live long in the memory of being one of Burnley FCs very best centre backs.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:44 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Will live long in the memory of being one of Burnley FCs very best centre backs.

He's no Lee Howey

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:46 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:He's no Lee Howey

Who is?

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:15 am

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Who is?

Steve Howey was close

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:21 am

Suffering from newdaditis.
Black rings under the eyes!

gawthorpe_view · Post by **gawthorpe_view** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:25 am

Doubtful, Dychespeak for being in in an induced coma, kept alive only by the miracle of 21st Century medical technology.
He'll Probably be on the bench at Watford then.

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:57 am

Broken toenail so will probably be back in time for our Europa League Final.

IWOODLOVETT · Post by **IWOODLOVETT** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:59 am

TheFamilyCat wrote:Put in a transfer request didn't he? Clearly downed tools so he doesn't jeopardise his transfer back to City.

April fool's story or fake news as it's also known as. No transfer request, just Ben turning down a contract offer - it's called negotiation. His fitness for Saturday has nothing to do with it.

No Ney Never · Post by **No Ney Never** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:01 am

It's alright, we've got Ireland international Long who can partner England international Tarkowski in the centre of our defence. Who'd have thought that 5 years ago?