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Andre Gray

Postby pushpinpussy » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:03 pm

wasnt happy. stormed off down the tunnel after Watford brought on their final 2 subs. what a shame.

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Re: Andre Gray

Postby jedi_master » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:06 pm

No ill feeling towards him, was superb for us in the Promotion season and doubled our money (more than) on him.

Shame it hasn't worked out as he thought.
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Re: Andre Gray

Postby dermotdermot » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:06 pm

Yes, I noticed that. Not a happy bunny.

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Re: Andre Gray

Postby Tall Paul » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:07 pm

It is a shame.

Better player than he gets credit for on here and integral to our recent success.
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Re: Andre Gray

Postby watsonsclarets » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:09 pm

Agreed good player but would you pay what Watford did for him to bring him back? I wouldn't

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Re: Andre Gray

Postby wilks_bfc » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:10 pm

watsonsclarets wrote:Agreed good player but would you pay what Watford did for him to bring him back? I wouldn't



I’m not sure I’d pay what we DID pay for him to bring him back tbh

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Re: Andre Gray

Postby Tribesmen » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:12 pm

That's life baby

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Re: Andre Gray

Postby jedi_master » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:13 pm

watsonsclarets wrote:Agreed good player but would you pay what Watford did for him to bring him back? I wouldn't


I would take him back for £10m-12m - Gray or Wells as the pacy option? No contest, he would improve our squad for sure.
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Re: Andre Gray

Postby MACCA » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:14 pm

If you're chasing a game and your record transfer striker doesn't come on, you know times up for him. He'll be at wolves next season, his "boy good club" with his homees.

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Re: Andre Gray

Postby Tall Paul » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:19 pm

watsonsclarets wrote:Agreed good player but would you pay what Watford did for him to bring him back? I wouldn't


We've moved on now and Watford probably overpaid for him.

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Re: Andre Gray

Postby bobinho » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:23 pm

Gray or Wells is a pointless argument. We know about gray, and we don’t know about wells. And from what I know of gray, I’d like to see wells have a crack at it BEFORE making a decision. With the way the other lads are shaping, he won’t get a look in and rightly so.

Oh. And gray is most certainly NOT a good player. He has his uses, and when you play to his strengths he can and will do a job for you. Trouble is his strengths means the team is one dimensional. Useful in the right team and set up, yes. Good player? No.
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Re: Andre Gray

Postby beddie » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:24 pm

I agree he was good for us in the championship, but that's about it. Apart from his pace he offers very little. Colin may get more out of him next season.

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Re: Andre Gray

Postby Nonayforever » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:29 pm

Andre isn't a good player, far from it.

The way Dyche set the team up and the style of play we used to have made I'm look good & gave him the opportunity to score some goals.

We have moved on, he hasn't.

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Re: Andre Gray

Postby BennyD » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:35 pm

Tall Paul wrote:It is a shame.

Better player than he gets credit for on here and integral to our recent success.


Really? We are doing so much better since he left. Coincidence? You decide.

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Re: Andre Gray

Postby Let'sChaseTheDragon » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:36 pm

jedi_master wrote:No ill feeling towards him, was superb for us in the Promotion season and doubled our money (more than) on him.

Shame it hasn't worked out as he thought.


Agree. More than played his part in our recent successes. Good luck to him.

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Re: Andre Gray

Postby jedi_master » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:37 pm

BennyD wrote:Really? We are doing so much better since he left. Coincidence? You decide.


I don't think anyone disputes the fact we aren't missing him, and that the likes of Wood and Barnes are providing infinitely more at this level for us than Gray did last season - but he was a huge part of our promotion. We should always be thankful for his contribution to getting us here, we looked absolutely toothless till he and Joey joined towards the end of August that season.

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Re: Andre Gray

Postby TVC15 » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:37 pm

Some short memories on this board

What did Gray offer us other than pace ? Mmmm let me think - oh yes just remembered....20+ goals and an integral part of the team that won the league.

We set up the team to make him look good ? Aaah isn’t that thoughtful of us.

Gray did great for us. He then wanted to leave for more money - just like Ings, Austin, Rodriguez, and many other centre forwards we have had in the last few years.

Since leaving Gray has struggled for sure - and he probably will end up leaving but let’s not forget Watford are a basket case of a club.

Personally i’m very happy with his time at Burnley and equally happy we made £10m profit on him.
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Re: Andre Gray

Postby what_no_pies » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:40 pm

Duchess masterclass. Gets the most out of a decent player and makes huge profit on him too. This has been a model for our success and in many ways Andre Gray’s career is a victim of Dyche’s brilliance now. Serves him right fo being greedy. Was never up to this level with us so I’ve no idea how anyone thought he’d be up to this level without us.
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Re: Andre Gray

Postby scouseclaret » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:43 pm

Went off to sulk with Keane and Rodriguez.

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Re: Andre Gray

Postby BennyD » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:45 pm

jedi_master wrote:I don't think anyone disputes the fact we aren't missing him, and that the likes of Wood and Barnes are providing infinitely more at this level for us than Gray did last season - but he was a huge part of our promotion. We should always be thankful for his contribution to getting us here, we looked absolutely toothless till he and Joey joined towards the end of August that season.


Absolutely. A good Championship striker and a mediocre Prem striker but the gangsta image and the pop star g/f has screwed him. Having said that, he got the goals that helped to get us promoted so, good on him. However, the big money move had turned to dust because he hasn't got SD looking after him.
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Re: Andre Gray

Postby Greenmile » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:58 pm

BennyD wrote:Really? We are doing so much better since he left. Coincidence? You decide.


Would you say the same about Keane, or Barton?

If not, why not?

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Re: Andre Gray

Postby IndigoLake » Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:00 pm

Enjoyed his goals for us but never really took to him - always had a feeling that he'd be off as soon as he could. Hasn't worked out for him at Watford but at least he has more money in the bank.

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Re: Andre Gray

Postby MACCA » Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:02 pm

He did very well for us, however his attitude whilst here, then during his move doesn't exactly get him hero status.

Thank you for what you did whilst here, but good bye, you reap what you sow.
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Re: Andre Gray

Postby Cirrus_Minor » Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:02 pm

Lined up for Cardiff city, if they get promoted, according to Chris Biden on Radio Lancs today.

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Re: Andre Gray

Postby Croydon Claret » Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:02 pm

He was good for us for most of the time he was here but I went off him as a person when he started doing that hand cupping thing
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Re: Andre Gray

Postby BennyD » Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:07 pm

Keane doesn't function properly without Mee and Barton can't function properly without SD. Like any good team,. you improve when crucial members move on. It's all about man - management and SD can do that. Andre Grey was a good player in the Championship (with the service he got) but outlived his usefulness to us in the Prem. There hasn't been many strikers who couldn't trap a sack of concrete who got the Championship striker of the year.

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Re: Andre Gray

Postby KRBFC » Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:22 pm

BennyD wrote:Keane doesn't function properly without Mee and Barton can't function properly without SD. Like any good team,. you improve when crucial members move on. It's all about man - management and SD can do that. Andre Grey was a good player in the Championship (with the service he got) but outlived his usefulness to us in the Prem. There hasn't been many strikers who couldn't trap a sack of concrete who got the Championship striker of the year.

Why do you need to trap a sack of concrete when you score the number of goals Gray did?
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Re: Andre Gray

Postby Longsider » Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:25 pm

Croydon Claret wrote:He was good for us for most of the time he was here but I went off him as a person when he started doing that hand cupping thing


My sentiments exactly. You might do this to the away fans if they are giving you grief but not your own fans. Makes him look a proper petulant two hat.
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Re: Andre Gray

Postby BennyD » Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:33 pm

KRBFC wrote:Why do you need to trap a sack of concrete when you score the number of goals Gray did?


A good first touch is a bonus to a good striker. With that ability I'm pretty sure he would still be with us.

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Re: Andre Gray

Postby KRBFC » Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:47 pm

BennyD wrote:A good first touch is a bonus to a good striker. With that ability I'm pretty sure he would still be with us.

Who really cares if he's still with us or not?
He was excellent for us, we did well whilst he was here and we're doing well now he's gone. I don't understand the negativity around him, he scored 26 goals in the Championship during a promotion season and carried the team on his back for large spells during that season. Who cares if he doesn't have a good first touch now? he was a damn good player for us.
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Re: Andre Gray

Postby Tall Paul » Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:48 pm

I agree with KRBFC. :shock:
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Re: Andre Gray

Postby Blackrod » Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:59 pm

Did very well for us but looked better in the Champ than the PL. Hungry and humble when he joined but not once he had the pop star girlfriend. Think the ego has overtaken the talent.

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Re: Andre Gray

Postby k90bfc » Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:05 pm

Not the same player,really missing our Sean!

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Re: Andre Gray

Postby Heaton's Gloves » Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:14 pm

jedi_master wrote:No ill feeling towards him, was superb for us in the Promotion season and doubled our money (more than) on him
Shame it hasn't worked out as he thought.

Nice enough lad. Ten bob piece boots. Not been missed.

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Re: Andre Gray

Postby KRBFC » Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:18 pm

Blackrod wrote:Did very well for us but looked better in the Champ than the PL. Hungry and humble when he joined but not once he had the pop star girlfriend. Think the ego has overtaken the talent.

Messi would look better in the Championship than he would in the PL? probably the most obvious statement in history. Who actually cares how good he is? I don't care if he's a League One level player, he still did very well for us which will never change.

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Re: Andre Gray

Postby warksclaret » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:09 pm

Played a huge part in getting us promoted. A very shrewd purchase and possibly the biggest reason for us winning the Championship outright, The points we got from his goals were immense. He sadly got greedy -the grass was greener....... etc

Must have felt sick today

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Re: Andre Gray

Postby starting_11 » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:13 pm

Who gives a ****?

He isn't our employee anymore and frankly, he was paid to do what he did.

If he is no longer happy with his new job,that's his problem.

Nostalgia and teary eyes about "what he did for us" are quite pathetic
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Re: Andre Gray

Postby FactualFrank » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:18 pm

I'd have him back on the bench as an impact sub.

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Re: Andre Gray

Postby 7decades » Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:43 pm

I'd have him back at a stroke, I'm building a wall and want a bag of cement trapped......Oh hang on a minute...

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Re: Andre Gray

Postby BennyD » Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:50 pm

KRBFC wrote:Who really cares if he's still with us or not?
He was excellent for us, we did well whilst he was here and we're doing well now he's gone. I don't understand the negativity around him, he scored 26 goals in the Championship during a promotion season and carried the team on his back for large spells during that season. Who cares if he doesn't have a good first touch now? he was a damn good player for us.


What’s your point? Read, and understand, what I wrote again.

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Re: Andre Gray

Postby Blackrod » Sat Apr 07, 2018 10:31 pm

KRBFC wrote:Messi would look better in the Championship than he would in the PL? probably the most obvious statement in history. Who actually cares how good he is? I don't care if he's a League One level player, he still did very well for us which will never change.


More idiocy from the Rovers fan.
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Re: Andre Gray

Postby IanMcL » Sat Apr 07, 2018 10:50 pm

Think his time is up at Watford.

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Re: Andre Gray

Postby Sidney1st » Sat Apr 07, 2018 11:30 pm

BennyD wrote:Really? We are doing so much better since he left. Coincidence? You decide.


Apply the same to Jay Rod, Austin and Ings, because people still want all of them back.

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Re: Andre Gray

Postby Garnerssoap » Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:05 am

Danny ings looked crap today/yesterday. This made me glad.
I like grey

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Re: Andre Gray

Postby Cubanclaret » Sun Apr 08, 2018 7:59 am

7decades wrote:I'd have him back at a stroke, I'm building a wall and want a bag of cement trapped......Oh hang on a minute...


Then maybe it’s Charlie Austin we should re-sign!

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Re: Andre Gray

Postby Bordeauxclaret » Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:32 am

Some big clubs in The Championship next season. They’ll be a lot of clubs chasing his signature.

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Re: Andre Gray

Postby bfcjg » Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:50 am

I always got the impression he used us as a stepping stone and was never really happy here. Most stepping stones though get you up or at least on the same level,alas in Andre's case has fallen into the river. Still his girlfriend can cheer him up with a few songs.

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Re: Andre Gray

Postby Firthy » Sun Apr 08, 2018 10:16 am

Don't have a problem with him. Did well for us while here. Don't think he ever really settled up North and wanted back down to London. Like others who have moved on has never hit the heights he did here. This does make me wonder how much of it is down to SD and just how good SD really is as a motivational manager.
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Re: Andre Gray

Postby Steve1956 » Sun Apr 08, 2018 10:36 am

Firthy wrote:Don't have a problem with him. Did well for us while here. Don't think he ever really settled up North and wanted back down to London. Like others who have moved on has never hit the heights he did here. This does make me wonder how much of it is down to SD and just how good SD really is as a motivationable manager.

Great post I think you have hit the nail on the head there.

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Re: Andre Gray

Postby claptrappers_union » Sun Apr 08, 2018 10:39 am

Good player or not, I’ve never seen Vokes or Wells storm off down the tunnel. I get that he wants to play but it’s really unprofessional.


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