Nick Pope

clarethomer · Post by **clarethomer** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:59 pm

Bloody outstanding today......

Again and again, he performs. Agree with the MOM award that Earby Clarets gave him.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:04 pm

I'm glad Dyche has stuck with him. It would have been incredibly harsh to drop him for Tom. Plus it gives Tom more time to recover which is surely no bad thing.

Cajun · Post by **Cajun** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:07 pm

A real calmness about him. Excellent all round game. Very assured at taking out crosses. Very confident in him.

Mayoclaret · Post by **Mayoclaret** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:18 pm

Excellent game. Can't have done himself any harm with our favourite season ticket-holder, Mr Southgate at the match.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:24 pm

He came, he saved, he caught!
Magnifico.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:32 pm

Tom will have a job getting back in if he keeps this up. One position we do not need to strenghthen. We couldn't improve it if we were Man City.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:34 pm

I know we scored 2, but his performance got us the 3 points IMO

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:36 pm

Should be on the plane to Russia.

No English keeper currently playing better.

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:37 pm

If that lad isn't on the plane to Russia,then Southgate is a Muppet.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:42 pm

I don't think Heaton can get back in the side. Pope is taller and younger, which are both advantages. and is better on crosses; and Tom (good though he is) doesn't in my view do anything significantly better than Pope does. It's rough to be the second best England goalkeeper and find that the best one is at the same club.

4:20 · Post by **4:20** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:11 pm

There's one view of that save from Mahrez (think it was him), the goal line view it really was an incredible save. Wrists of vibranium has that guy.

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:14 pm

I've voted Nick Pope as player of the season. Not sure how that compares to MOTM votes each match but overall, to come in and replace an England keeper from the bench and from playing only lower league football takes real courage.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:18 pm

He's the best English goal keeper playing
It would be ridiculous not to pick him for Russia.
Week after week, he never lets us down. Southgate needs to grow a pair and do what his brain is telling him, but his courage is holding him back.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:32 pm

Saint Nicholas excellent again. No chance with goal.

halfmanhalfbiscuit · Post by **halfmanhalfbiscuit** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:42 pm

On current form. Best English keeper by some distance.
I don’t thing anyone in football could argue against this.
Probably the find of the season.
Not just for Burnley, but the Premier League.
He actually pulled off one, maybe two world class saves today.

Belgianclaret · Post by **Belgianclaret** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:42 pm

Not only good enough to be on the plane to Russia, if Southgate has any 'cochones' he should be the outright nr 1.

No one better than him in England for the moment, great talent & full of confidence

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:51 pm

I agree he’s an obvious choice for England on form compared with the opposition.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:02 pm

Today some of the, goal bound, stops he pulled off today were Schmeichelesque.

That's Peter.

CharlieinNewMexico · Post by **CharlieinNewMexico** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:27 pm

Today was the day Southgate decided to take him I reckon. He snuffs out so much danger into the box simply from his confidence and height. An option as 3rd choice in case we come up against a team that plays with width and wingers

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:34 pm

Excellent today and fully deserved MOTM. I was amazed when the Mahrez effort in the first half and Vardy’s in the second didn’t find the back of the net. Hes exuding confidence at the minute.

I hate to say it but I also thought he displayed today why he may not be on the plane to Russia. His distribution was wayward and I honestly think it contributed largely to the relentless pressure we were under in the second half. He gave our front men nothing to work with and a number of kicks ran straight through to that blonde lad in the Leicester goal.

I don’t want to be critical or nit-pick on an otherwise excellent performance but it’s an area of his game I really hope he can improve.

maidenover · Post by **maidenover** » Sun Apr 15, 2018 4:39 am

Clearly the best English goalkeeper around.
Yes his distribution maybe below par, but I don't think Dyche wants him playing the short passes like Guadiola wants at City.
Once you go long, your accuracy reduces.

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:04 am

Pope is our No1. Heaton is good but lacks height to command his area.
If Nick could just improve his kicking which lets him down he would be the England No1 for me.

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:06 am

Belgianclaret wrote:Not only good enough to be on the plane to Russia, if Southgate has any 'cochones' he should be the outright nr 1.

No one better than him in England for the moment, great talent & full of confidence

Hard to argue. I do fear though (in fact I expect) that Pope will not, incredibly, be going to Russia.

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:07 am

maidenover wrote:Clearly the best English goalkeeper around.
Yes his distribution maybe below par, but I don't think Dyche wants him playing the short passes like Guadiola wants at City.
Once you go long, your accuracy reduces.

A very good point regards his kicking.

ashtonlongsider · Post by **ashtonlongsider** » Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:49 am

As good as Pope's been i'd be surprised if he's on the plane to Russia. I think it's possibly between him and the experience of Hart for the 3rd slot with the other 2 nailed on barring injuries.

Bullabill · Post by **Bullabill** » Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:21 am

Rileybobs » Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:34 am

"Excellent today and fully deserved MOTM. I was amazed when the Mahrez effort in the first half and Vardy’s in the second didn’t find the back of the net. Hes exuding confidence at the minute.

I hate to say it but I also thought he displayed today why he may not be on the plane to Russia. His distribution was wayward and I honestly think it contributed largely to the relentless pressure we were under in the second half. He gave our front men nothing to work with and a number of kicks ran straight through to that blonde lad in the Leicester goal."
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I watched the Everton match and in the first seven minutes J.Pickford kicked the ball to the opposition keeper three times. Several times in the game he booted the ball to a clutch of swans just outside their penalty area. Yes, I know about the second ball and all that but Everton weren't winning them and possession was given to Swansea each time. He was no different to anything I've seen from Nick Pope.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:50 am

Bullabill wrote:Rileybobs » Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:34 am

"Excellent today and fully deserved MOTM. I was amazed when the Mahrez effort in the first half and Vardy’s in the second didn’t find the back of the net. Hes exuding confidence at the minute.

I hate to say it but I also thought he displayed today why he may not be on the plane to Russia. His distribution was wayward and I honestly think it contributed largely to the relentless pressure we were under in the second half. He gave our front men nothing to work with and a number of kicks ran straight through to that blonde lad in the Leicester goal."
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I watched the Everton match and in the first seven minutes J.Pickford kicked the ball to the opposition keeper three times. Several times in the game he booted the ball to a clutch of swans just outside their penalty area. Yes, I know about the second ball and all that but Everton weren't winning them and possession was given to Swansea each time. He was no different to anything I've seen from Nick Pope.

That may well have been the case but it goes without saying that Pickford is much better than Pope with the ball at his feet. A lot of people have the dated view that a goalkeeper doesn’t need to be good with his feet, but at the very top level it’s fundamental. Could you imagine this Man City side being so dominant without a ‘ball-playing’ goalkeeper?

For Burnley it’s not a huge issue, although as I said in my post above, more accurate kicking from Pope would have relieved a lot of pressure in the second half. But for the way that Southgate wants England to play I don’t think that Pope’s distribution will cut the mustard.

happyclaret17 · Post by **happyclaret17** » Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:52 am

forget the distribution...he will be working on that....at the minute he keeps the ball out of the net better than ANY english goalkeeper.....he has to be playing a major role for us in russia.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:54 am

happyclaret17 wrote:forget the distribution...he will be working on that....at the minute he keeps the ball out of the net better than ANY english goalkeeper.....he has to be playing a major role for us in russia.

That’s clearly not Southgate’s priority.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:02 am

I think it was the midfield in the main who easily surrendered the ball. Also we do lack height in midfield which results in lost second balls.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:11 am

6th on the saves list with 100 saves made.

Butland 122
Fabianski 114
Pickford 112
De Gea 103
Ryan 102
Pope 100
Begovuc 99
Schmeichel 93
Lossl 91
Foster 84

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:11 am

ashtonlongsider wrote:As good as Pope's been i'd be surprised if he's on the plane to Russia. I think it's possibly between him and the experience of Hart for the 3rd slot with the other 2 nailed on barring injuries.

Hart is not in the same league as Pope, Heaton, Butland. Pickford currently unsettled, so perhaps that could be close...but not that close.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:17 am

=6th on list of Sweeper Clearances with 22.

Ederson 39
Lloris 31
Schmeichel 25
Lossl 24
Butland 23
Cech 22
Pope 22
Hennessey 16
Foster 15
Gomes 13
Pickford 13
Adrian 13

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:21 am

=6th punches
1st High Claims
13 th Throw Outs
9th Goal kicks

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:22 am

High Claims stats are interesting.

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Pope 49
Pickford 26
Butland 16

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:27 am

Think most of football agrees, if Pope can improve his distribution he will; if he continues in his current form, be England's best keeper.

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:27 am

In my mind Southgate has settled on a keeper who can play as a sweeper, which is why Pope will not be picked. I think that is a mistake, history tells us that England get knocked out due to an inability to defend rather than an inability to distribute like Barca. A mistake he will make in defence as well as in goal (Trips, Walker, Stones etc are not the most solid either).

Let’s be fair, Southgate wouldn’t be a true England manager if he isn’t going to make a monumental balls up.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:29 am

Pope has conceded the same number as De Gea and Ederson 25
Only bettered by.

Mignolet and Adrian with 24.

Adrian from 15 games.
Mignolet from 19.

Ederson 33 games
De Gea 32 games
Pope 30 (1) games

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:31 am

United wouldn't be in 2nd without De Gea.
103 saves is very high for a top 4 team.

Ooogeorgeorgeoghani · Post by **Ooogeorgeorgeoghani** » Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:07 am

On the topic of kicking schmechial who is usually good at distribution was also poor yesterday