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Re: Windrush Scandal

Post by Dark Cloud » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:03 pm

Looks like Heaton's going. :cry:

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Re: Windrush Scandal

Post by Imploding Turtle » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:18 pm

I'm going to assume Sidney started to have a look through the 49 posts of mine that contain the word Nazi and spotted the theme that i spotted, and then he gave up.

But rest assured, he will be back another day to accuse me of calling people Nazis for disagreeing with me, or something.

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Re: Windrush Scandal

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:23 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I'm going to assume Sidney started to have a look through the 49 posts of mine that contain the word Nazi and spotted the theme that i spotted, and then he gave up.

But rest assured, he will be back another day to accuse me of calling people Nazis for disagreeing with me, or something.
**** off :lol:

You know full well you don't always use the word Nazi, you imply, suggest, hint that someone is without using the word directly, just like I said the other day that you were priming yourself to use it.

Then when you're pulled up on it you tell someone to see when you used it last etc, exactly like you are now.

So wind your neck in, you're a gobshite who loves sticking labels on people.

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Re: Windrush Scandal

Post by Dark Cloud » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:29 pm

Think it's pretty much a done deal. (Subject to medical) :cry: :cry: :cry:

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Re: Windrush Scandal

Post by Imploding Turtle » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:49 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:**** off :lol:

You know full well you don't always use the word Nazi, you imply, suggest, hint that someone is without using the word directly, just like I said the other day that you were priming yourself to use it.

Then when you're pulled up on it you tell someone to see when you used it last etc, exactly like you are now.

So wind your neck in, you're a gobshite who loves sticking labels on people.

More mendacity.

"you like to throw the N word around"
"ok, show me when",
"**** off, you know i was lying. Stop trying to make me prove myself wrong. Do you think i'm that stupid?"
"On advice of counsel i exert my right to remain silent"
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Re: Windrush Scandal

Post by Dark Cloud » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:51 pm

But we're signing a replacement. He's got a long name and sounds like he might be a concert pianist!!! (As well as a goalie...of sorts)

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Re: Windrush Scandal

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:56 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:More mendacity.

"you like to throw the N word around"
"ok, show me when",
"**** off, you know i was lying. Stop trying to make me prove myself wrong. Do you think i'm that stupid?"
"On advice of counsel i exert my right to remain silent"
Ha, some of us wish you would remain silent at times instead of trying to be an expert of everything available to read on the internet.

You know full well you imply, suggest and insinuate, it's almost like your specialist subject so playing innocent about it is laughable.

Have fun banging one out over the potential for an argument, you'll need to find it somewhere else tonight.

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Re: Windrush Scandal

Post by Imploding Turtle » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:57 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Ha, some of us wish you would remain silent at times instead of trying to be an expert of everything available to read on the internet.

You know full well you imply, suggest and insinuate, it's almost like your specialist subject so playing innocent about it is laughable.

Have fun banging one out over the potential for an argument, you'll need to find it somewhere else tonight.
More lies. When will it end?

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Re: Windrush Scandal

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:21 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Ha, some of us wish you would remain silent at times instead of trying to be an expert of everything available to read on the internet.

You know full well you imply, suggest and insinuate, it's almost like your specialist subject so playing innocent about it is laughable.

Have fun banging one out over the potential for an argument, you'll need to find it somewhere else tonight.
Irony still alive and well then I see.
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Re: Windrush Scandal

Post by Imploding Turtle » Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:59 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Ha, some of us wish you would remain silent at times instead of trying to be an expert of everything available to read on the internet.

You know full well you imply, suggest and insinuate, it's almost like your specialist subject so playing innocent about it is laughable.

Have fun banging one out over the potential for an argument, you'll need to find it somewhere else tonight.

Here's one of the examples of a post where i use the word "Nazi". Weird, eh? How i seem to throw around the N-word so much yet i'm not one of the people who you claim has called you it.

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One of the funny things i noticed going through my posts containing the word "Nazi" was how many of them was me quoting people complaining about how me, or people like me, constantly use the word. I actually laughed out loud at one point.

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Re: Windrush Scandal

Post by Woodleyclaret » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:44 am

The folk who came in the early 50s from the Caribbean are now great grandparents .They have English offspring.
The issue re immigration is not with these people but with our handling of "refugees" from Africa and Eastern Europe.The processing of genuine asylum seekers from chancers is a disgrace.

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Re: Windrush Scandal

Post by Pstotto » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:54 am

There are 50 countries in Africa. Why oh why, come to a Northern European country for refuge? WHY? Go somewhere else. Idi Amin is now dead, the Ugandan Asians are free to go back. What are they doing here?

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Re: Windrush Scandal

Post by ClaretAndJew » Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:00 am

What is anyone doing anywhere? We don't own the world. It's everyone's to do as they wish.

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Re: Windrush Scandal

Post by Devils_Advocate » Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:04 am

Pstotto wrote: What are they doing here?
Someone needs to be paying tax to support you're benefits and healthcare

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Re: Windrush Scandal

Post by Pstotto » Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:12 am

Claret and Jew, the infrastructure of this country has taken a 1000 years to build, for our people. Mt family have paid tax since when it was started including two sacrifices in WW1, so if a member of my family falls on tough times through no fault of their own, then my family have paid for me. I could pay tax if I was accepted in society, but my good sense and sensibility as a leading art theorist is not valued in this p*llock Medici era, so far. My work doesn't sell for millions, coloured spots do.

Roads, hospitals, prisons, education, police government tax office etc. just for someone to come and pay some tax from abroad, notwithstanding the burden of folk not suited to here, and probably ill as a result.

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Re: Windrush Scandal

Post by ClaretAndJew » Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:19 am

That's not how tax works otherwise no one would need to work if their parents had paid tax.

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Re: Windrush Scandal

Post by Pstotto » Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:21 am

Oh really? You prat. As daft a comment as your last.

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Re: Windrush Scandal

Post by ClaretAndJew » Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:22 am

It's not daft it's just how it is. My parents paid tax as did my grandparents. My grandfather's on both sides served in WWII and my great grandfather's both in WWI. Do I not need to pay tax?

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Re: Windrush Scandal

Post by Pstotto » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:01 pm

Another silly thicko comment from you. Tax needs to be paid, immigrants are not needed for it. Immigration is a myth, we had a no-immigration economy before WW2.

My point about tax was that someone was questioning my right to benefit as an ill person, I said my family having paid millions into the kitty, have a right to have one of their family members given some support if needed.

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Re: Windrush Scandal

Post by Devils_Advocate » Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:15 pm

Pstotto wrote:Another silly thicko comment from you. Tax needs to be paid, immigrants are not needed for it. Immigration is a myth, we had a no-immigration economy before WW2.

My point about tax was that someone was questioning my right to benefit as an ill person, I said my family having paid millions into the kitty, have a right to have one of their family members given some support if needed.
I didn't question your right to benefit I pointed out that someone needs to pay tax to fund the benefits you are entitled to. Your mummy and daddy's tax payments have long been spent so isn't any use today.

Give me an immigrant over a waste of space like yourself any day of the week
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Re: Windrush Scandal

Post by Pstotto » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:01 pm

:-)

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Re: Windrush Scandal

Post by evensteadiereddie » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:08 pm

Ouch !

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Re: Windrush Scandal

Post by TVC15 » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:11 pm

Pstotto wrote:There are 50 countries in Africa. Why oh why, come to a Northern European country for refuge? WHY? Go somewhere else. Idi Amin is now dead, the Ugandan Asians are free to go back. What are they doing here?
You are one scary bloke

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Re: Windrush Scandal

Post by AndrewJB » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:16 am

A longish read, but some new information too. On a day when the focus is on bigotry...

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... sh-scandal" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Windrush Scandal

Post by AndrewJB » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:23 am

And this: https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... l-violence" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Windrush Scandal

Post by AndrewJB » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:24 am

And this: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... h-sleepers" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Windrush Scandal

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:39 pm

AndrewJB wrote:And this: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... h-sleepers" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Is that about deporting non UK nationals who're sleeping rough?

If they're able to have a better life in their home country is it such an issue?

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Re: Windrush Scandal

Post by tiger76 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:03 pm

I missed this news, doesn't this just sum up this government's attitude to vulnerable people https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics ... g-22377944

And this tale does the Home Office no favourshttps://www.mirror.co.uk/news/windrush- ... -22187210

How on earth is Priti Patel still in her post :roll:

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Re: Windrush Scandal

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:20 pm

She's been home secretary for 13 months, this issue has been going on for twice as long and the government offices are notoriously slow to get anything done, even more so when majority are at home instead of the office.

Did you expect her to magic away all of the messes left by her predecessors?

Windrush is just one problem let's not forget and even then it all needs to be thoroughly checked, because look at those who tried scamming the Grenfell compensation scheme.
It should never have happened in the first place but if it came out that money was paid to those who weren't entitled then people would complain.
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Re: Windrush Scandal

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:29 pm

One thing is clear from reading this board, this current government can do what they want and they know they’ll be defended come hell or high water.
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Re: Windrush Scandal

Post by Right_winger » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:35 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:29 pm
One thing is clear from reading this board, this current government can do what they want and they know they’ll be defended come hell or high water.
The opposite view from this is also very clear, whatever the government do they will be wrong/bad it all
Comes down to colours and which side of the fence you were brought up on. Some people would vote for a monkey with a red rosette, but a kitten with a blue rosette will be made out to be a brutal monster only looking out for their own kind. So on and so forth.

The reality is always somewhere in between of course.
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Re: Windrush Scandal

Post by tiger76 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:11 pm

Right_winger wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:35 pm
The opposite view from this is also very clear, whatever the government do they will be wrong/bad it all
Comes down to colours and which side of the fence you were brought up on. Some people would vote for a monkey with a red rosette, but a kitten with a blue rosette will be made out to be a brutal monster only looking out for their own kind. So on and so forth.

The reality is always somewhere in between of course.
Well I've voted for both major parties over the years, and as it happens I voted Conservative in the last 2 elections, but just because I voted for them doesn't mean they are free from criticism if I think what they're doing is wrong, equally it's easy for the opposition parties to snip from the side-lines without having to make the difficult decisions, there is some on both sides of the divide who'll swear their philosophy is the panacea to all the countries ill's, and who'll vote for each party out of tribal loyalty, however I do think that is slowly changing, and there's a growing number of floating voters who'll flip if they aren't impressed by the governing party, whoever is in office, if they want to get back into power the Labour party will need to win these voters over, I won't vote blue in 2024, but it's not yet guaranteed I'll revert back to Labour, although I'm impressed by their new management as KS put it in the HOC, and I he and the shadow cabinet keep going in a more moderate direction I could well find myself placing my cross in the Labour box for the first time in more than 2 decades.

I don't expect miracles, just basic competence would satisfy me, and if the opposition can provide that, then I'm more than happy to vote this bunch out of office, the one thing the electorate hate is arrogance, and that's emanating in spades from the present government, they'd do well to remember a dose of humility goes a long way. And they seem to forget the main reason they got an 80 seat majority was Jeremy Corbyn, now he's not around anymore. they'll find it a lot harder to portray the opposition as extreme.

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