Was we really that bad?

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:51 pm

I couldn't make it today as we were moving house.
Listened to the game on radio Blackburn. Chris Boden was co commentator, and going off his appraisal, we were terrible and did well to come away with a point.
Looking at the stats post game though, we were on top in every department.
I can't get my head around the fact we had twice as many shots on target, 57% of the possession and were lucky to get a draw

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:54 pm

They had the better of the first half and we dominated the 2nd, doing enough to win the game.

Overall a draw could be said to be fair. We weren't at our best and waited too long to bring Vokes on again. Wood has scored goals for us but has been very quiet in his all round game, not winning headers or keeping hold of the ball.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:56 pm

Defensively we were very poor. And going forward not that much better. Jbg was unlucky 3 or 4 times but they were one offs rather than a full game of relentless pressure. We were very sloppy defensively and distribution from the back equaly poor.

Wards worse game and probably tarks too. Still got a point at a tough ground against a team that needed to win more than us so cant complain.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:57 pm

One thing that confused me though was how little stoke went for it in the last 25. I expected them to throw the kitchen sink at it but nothing.

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:58 pm

The shots and other stars (except possession) are all really distorted by Stoke's need late on to chase it as a point did them no good.
It was a poor game and we offered little in the first half. Had Diouf not missed a sitter we'd have been 2-0 down.
Stoke then mistakenly sat off us and offered us a way back in. To be fair, we took it. However, they then picked it up again at 1-1 and again we looked to have few ways of really hurting them.
People shouldn't get carried away with a bad performance. If Ward, Cork and Tarks can hardly hit a straight pass all day between them (and they couldn't) we'll struggle, even against a poor team like Stoke. We shouldn't get carried away. One great season does not make us significantly better than them.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:02 pm

I thought we were pretty decent. Looked more accomplished than Stoke throughout and we were by far the better side in the second half. Our final ball was sloppy which let us down.

The Stoke fans made a load of noise for the first 20 minutes and seemed to give up after that point as they were nullified.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:13 pm

JBG had a few chances at the end he should have put away. 2_1 wouldn't have been unfair on Stoke.

Ward was really poor and even changed his boots but that' didn't seem to help. Strange one really as he's usual so consistent but his passing and general distribution was awful today.

JBG brilliant despite the misses and Westwood was great.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:17 pm

I'll bet that Chris Boden didn't get anywhere near describing us as 'terrible'.

Stalbansclaret · Post by **Stalbansclaret** » Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:21 pm

Still no grammar police 8 posts in !?

ClaretJimmy · Post by **ClaretJimmy** » Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:22 pm

We were okay. A few off days from some important players and the whole team is going to look worse than what we're used to.

Stoke were more on their game, but they're not that good this year and that's why we didn't lose.

Some good bits were Kevin Long's magnificent last ditch tackle on their striker, red card if he gets it wrong but it was perfect. Barnes with yet another goal, also JBG having the three shots at the end which made us wonder if we could nick it!

Diouf fumbled a good chance and Butland made 2 or 3 excellent saves, JBG freekick and Tarkowski (?) header from a corner.

All in all Stoke were a 7/10, we were a 5/10 and it ended up being a draw which I'd imagine most of the travelling Clarets were content with

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:22 pm

I was
We were

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:27 pm

Probably no worse than we were against Watford and Leicester, but we just didn’t quite manage to nick the win at the death.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:34 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:I'll bet that Chris Boden didn't get anywhere near describing us as 'terrible'.

Did you listen or are you just hedging?

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:37 pm

Damo wrote:Did you listen or are you just hedging?

Just hedging Damo.

I can imagine Chris saying we were below our best, not good on the day or that Stoke were the better team.

But 'terrible', I'll bet against that.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:58 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Just hedging Damo.

I can imagine Chris saying we were below our best, not good on the day or that Stoke were the better team.

But 'terrible', I'll bet against that.

Ok, well I'll hold up my hands and say he may not of said terrible.
But after listening to him for over 90 minutes, that's the impression I got of our performance.
That's basically what I said in my OP anyway

Hozz · Post by **Hozz** » Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:06 pm

Please, please, please!

Check post 11.

“Were”

It’s not that blumming hard!

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:11 pm

Hozz wrote:Please, please, please!

Check post 11.

“Were”

It’s not that blumming hard!

Is that all you have to add?
Sometimes I wonder what tragic events lead to someone getting angry at spelling/grammar/punctuation on internet message boards.
Perhaps we could turn it into a thread?

Hozz · Post by **Hozz** » Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:15 pm

Don’t be a dick Damo for heaven so sake. I just get peeved at the basic lack of knowledge of the basics for our wonderful language.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:18 pm

Hozz wrote:Don’t be a dick Damo for heaven so sake. I just get peeved at the basic lack of knowledge of the basics for our wonderful language.

For heaven so sake?

Hozz · Post by **Hozz** » Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:18 pm

If you want some insight, I felt we were intimidated in the first half by the atmosphere plus as much as Kevin has come in to cover Mee and done so well, we miss him. Second half, this side are always going to react, unlike Burnley sides of the past.

Hozz · Post by **Hozz** » Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:20 pm

Okay, autocorrect and my retarded ability to check, bravo Damo!

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:24 pm

Damo wrote:I couldn't make it today as we were moving house.
Listened to the game on radio Blackburn. Chris Boden was co commentator, and going off his appraisal, we were terrible and did well to come away with a point.
Looking at the stats post game though, we were on top in every department.
I can't get my head around the fact we had twice as many shots on target, 57% of the possession and were lucky to get a draw

1. It's the BBC

2. It's radio Rovers.

3. What did you expect?

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:10 am

Stoke were much better first half, but everything they got second half came from our mistakes and those mistakes amounted in the end to quite a few, which isn't like us.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:24 am

Damo wrote:Ok, well I'll hold up my hands and say he may not of said terrible.

Of said?

The verb is to have.

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:46 pm

Hozz wrote:Please, please, please!

Check post 11.

“Were”

It’s not that blumming hard!

`were` not "were"

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:48 pm

I couldn't get there yesterday but reading on here I formed the opinion that we were rubbish and lucky to get away with a draw. Then I saw the stats in which we won every one. Then I watched the highlights on sky and was surprised to find Butland making at least two fantastic saves to keep us out, and JBG going extremely close on at least 3 occasions. Just shows you shouldn't believe everything you read on here.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:03 pm

It's all the BBC's fault - again !

moaninclaret · Post by **moaninclaret** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:33 pm

Some of the lads wernt at their best yesterday but maybe as the season draws to a close, fatigue could be an issue and it showed yesterday, Tarks only just made the line up due to a slight groin injury, Ward and Wood in particular looked tired and to be honest Stoke looked a team destined for the drop, yes we have played a hell of a lot better and we seem to save that for when the big clubs come to town. From where i was in the stands, we could have wrapped the game up in the last15 minutes, i didn't think we were that bad, certainly not awful as some have suggested, if were on our way to Europe we cant be that bad can we?

lovebeingaclaret · Post by **lovebeingaclaret** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:13 pm

Hozz wrote:Don’t be a dick Damo for heaven so sake. I just get peeved at the basic lack of knowledge of the basics for our wonderful language.

Did you mean for heaven's sake? I just get peeved at the basic lack of knowledge.

Culmclaret · Post by **Culmclaret** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:19 pm

I’m afraid we are already seeing the signs of some on here expecting too much. As a club we have massively over-achieved in relation to the raw ability of the players. That has been in large part due to the remarkable focus and intensity of the team. That is really difficult to maintain: and I suspect mental tiredness is as much an issue as physical tiredness. Some of the comments on here about us being ‘very poor’ yesterday are head wobbling. We could easily have won against a team who needed to win when we didn’t. We came from behind (a new skill) and the opposition goalkeeper was their man of the match. 1-1 was a par score and we achieved it. Yes were a bit sloppy at times, but let’s give the players a bit of a break. They have taken us up a level in each of the past three seasons. Other than davemanu, hands up if you seriously thought we would be top 7 come the end of this season. We really must guard against the sort of arrogance of which we accuse supporters of some other clubs. All of our players have been heroes this year.

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:57 pm

1st half was even Stevens. We completely bossed the 2nd half and should have come away with all 3pts. Stoke offered nothing 2nd half

Rammy1968 · Post by **Rammy1968** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:07 pm

Here here we’ll said that man

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:30 pm

we were crap first half, but our first half performance would have beaten our team from the 80's 6-0 !

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:49 pm

Rammy1968 wrote:Here here we’ll said that man

Normally one would emit the apostrophe.

lovebeingaclaret · Post by **lovebeingaclaret** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:53 pm

chekhov wrote:Normally one would emit the apostrophe.

Or even omit it.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:56 pm

Don't ewe just luv it when the grammer police spell somethink rong !!

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:01 pm

lovebeingaclaret wrote:Or even omit it.

I liked the image it conjured up. You know, emitting an apostrophe. Like a damp fart.

morpheus2 · Post by **morpheus2** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:48 pm

Was Burnley really that bad?

Does that work?

lovebeingaclaret · Post by **lovebeingaclaret** » Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:29 pm

chekhov wrote:I liked the image it conjured up. You know, emitting an apostrophe. Like a damp fart.

Don't really get that. What image is conjured up and what is like a damp fart? Perhaps an illustration?

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:52 am

lovebeingaclaret wrote:Don't really get that. What image is conjured up and what is like a damp fart? Perhaps an illustration?

You've just got to use your imagination, and not everything I say makes sense. I could be typing any old nonsense.