Xerdan shaquri

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Mon May 07, 2018 1:01 pm

Few rumours on twitter that we have opened talks with stoke

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Mon May 07, 2018 1:04 pm

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon May 07, 2018 1:06 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:Few rumours on twitter that we have opened talks with stoke

People will have seen an earlier thread on here about him and decided to start something.

whiffa · Post by **whiffa** » Mon May 07, 2018 1:07 pm

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Mon May 07, 2018 1:07 pm

Could do worse. Will be much more affordable wage wise than Toure.

Although if we get Yaya over the line, that would be a fabulous coup.

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Mon May 07, 2018 1:08 pm

We aren't going the break our wage structure to sign him without the knock on of others wanting more.

Be a good player and would improve our first team.

claretcarrot93 · Post by **claretcarrot93** » Mon May 07, 2018 1:09 pm

Playing behind the striker fine but not as a winger. Does not track back enough for Dyche. Ward had acres at Stoke down the left. Be great off Wood/Barnes though

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon May 07, 2018 1:11 pm

Sean Dyche must be reading this board. Every time I say I'd sign a player, we get rumoured to be going in for them.

MDWat · Post by **MDWat** » Mon May 07, 2018 1:13 pm

Hahaha. Literally no chance.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Mon May 07, 2018 1:13 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Sean Dyche must be reading this board. Every time I say I'd sign a player, we get rumoured to be going in for them.

Is that a fact Factual,or did you make it up?

claretlegend · Post by **claretlegend** » Mon May 07, 2018 1:15 pm

Good player but seems a right little t**t.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon May 07, 2018 1:16 pm

There's absolutely no chance of this happening, you don't sign for Bayern Munich & Inter Milan then move to Stoke for anything but cash.

BurnleyPaul · Post by **BurnleyPaul** » Mon May 07, 2018 1:25 pm

If this is going on then:

(1) Walters and Bardsley will have given references to SD and the club over his character
(2) Walters and Bardsley will have spoken with Shaqiri about our club and given him the low down on all aspects (including how our wage structure works)
(3) Shaqiri will have given some indicator that he’s interested in talking to us/moving to us.

Would definitely be an upgrade on what we have in the squad and would enable us to mix up our style of play a bit more than is possible at present.

If the numbers work out, the desire to come is there, and SD really wants him here then surely it’s a no brainer....

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Mon May 07, 2018 1:29 pm

Yaya Toure and Xherdan Shaqiri - what are people smoking, really?...

...is exactly what I said before we signed Steven Defour, a current full Belgian international just after being promoted out of The Championship.

Just saying.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon May 07, 2018 1:33 pm

jedi_master wrote:Yaya Toure and Xherdan Shaqiri - what are people smoking, really?...

...is exactly what I said before we signed Steven Defour, a current full Belgian international just after being promoted out of The Championship.

Just saying.

That's a fair point, I said the same. I couldn't even believe we looked set to sign Brady and Robertson in the same few days

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon May 07, 2018 2:02 pm

Well he ain’t staying at Stoke so could be something in this.

I thought he would be on at least £80k a week given his previous clubs but if he’s on a bit less than this - say £60k then he won’t be far off our wage limit I reckon.

If there is any truth in this i’m not worried about his character as Dyche will not sign anyone who does not fit in.

In terms of him as a player I think he would be a perfect no 10. Busy, low centre of gravity, 2 great feet and able to get his shots off very quickly with little backlift. He’s a better quality version of Danny Ings and our squad is missing this type of player

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon May 07, 2018 2:04 pm

Rooney will be available soon!

Stan Tastic · Post by **Stan Tastic** » Mon May 07, 2018 2:23 pm

TVC15 wrote:Well he ain’t staying at Stoke so could be something in this.

I thought he would be on at least £80k a week given his previous clubs but if he’s on a bit less than this - say £60k then he won’t be far off our wage limit I reckon.

If there is any truth in this i’m not worried about his character as Dyche will not sign anyone who does not fit in.

In terms of him as a player I think he would be a perfect no 10. Busy, low centre of gravity, 2 great feet and able to get his shots off very quickly with little backlift. He’s a better quality version of Danny Ings and our squad is missing this type of player

That's got to be one of the worst comparisons in the history of planet Earth.

Claretforever · Post by **Claretforever** » Mon May 07, 2018 2:25 pm

Here’s an interview he did for a Swiss magazine in March. I’m not sure that would impress Dyche.

https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/f ... er-1404833" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Juan Tanamera · Post by **Juan Tanamera** » Mon May 07, 2018 2:44 pm

What is this belief that some people have that all our players are on the same money and signing someone on a bigger wage would have a knock on effect?
With all due respect, does anyone really think Scott Arfield will be on the same as Steven Defour?

bfcmik · Post by **bfcmik** » Mon May 07, 2018 3:04 pm

Juan Tanamera wrote:What is this belief that some people have that all our players are on the same money and signing someone on a bigger wage would have a knock on effect?
With all due respect, does anyone really think Scott Arfield will be on the same as Steven Defour?

Mike Garlick in his interview I read the other day mentioned that there is not a big difference between the wages of players in the 1st team squad. He also stated that we are now competitive on wages with the average PL club.

Take ManUre, Chelski and Citeh out of the equation as clubs who spend BIG and pay BIG then the Arse, Spurs and Liverpool who may make higher profile signings but rarely for Mega dosh and who pay at a level between that of the 3 mentioned earlier and the majority of the rest. Aspiring wannabe clubs like Leicester, Everton and West Ham may push the boat out for some players but have the majority of their squads on pretty 'ordinary' (as though there is anything ordinary about £40-60k per week) wages.

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Mon May 07, 2018 3:15 pm

I've never heard of one our players moaning about the club in the press, yet this guy has at Stoke, good player but not the character we want

bfcmik · Post by **bfcmik** » Mon May 07, 2018 3:18 pm

Claretforever wrote:Here’s an interview he did for a Swiss magazine in March. I’m not sure that would impress Dyche.

https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/f ... er-1404833" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Think about some of the interviews that were done by Defour last season and this isn't as bad as some of those!

Oshkoshclaret · Post by **Oshkoshclaret** » Mon May 07, 2018 3:21 pm

There's more chance of us signing Shakira

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Mon May 07, 2018 3:27 pm

MDWat wrote:Hahaha. Literally no chance.

Why not?

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon May 07, 2018 3:31 pm

Stan Tastic wrote:That's got to be one of the worst comparisons in the history of planet Earth.

That’s got to be one of the stupidest exaggerated comments in the history of the Universe ever ever !

Danny Ings was small, played no 10 role, great first touch and always liked to get a shot off quickly. He could beat a man and also liked a showboat / trick. He was also not scared of a tackle - they are all characteristics that Shaquri has got its just he has done it on a higher level and probably likes to run with the ball more.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon May 07, 2018 3:38 pm

no thanks, appalling attitude. Wouldn't want him anywhere near our club

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Mon May 07, 2018 3:45 pm

KRBFC wrote:There's absolutely no chance of this happening, you don't sign for Bayern Munich & Inter Milan then move to Stoke for anything but cash.

You might move because Bayern Munich and Inter Milan don't want you any more?

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Mon May 07, 2018 3:50 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Sean Dyche must be reading this board. Every time I say I'd sign a player, we get rumoured to be going in for them.

Well to be Frank you only deal in Facts.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon May 07, 2018 4:13 pm

dsr wrote:You might move because Bayern Munich and Inter Milan don't want you any more?

Yeah but my point was you don't move from Milan/Bayern on a big long contract to Stoke (In a new country) without a pay rise.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Mon May 07, 2018 4:16 pm

KRBFC wrote:Yeah but my point was you don't move from Milan/Bayern on a big long contract to Stoke (In a new country) without a pay rise.

Depends what he's offered and who's offering. Why isn't he playing for Barcelona? There's two likely reasons. 1 - Stoke offered more money; 2 - Barcelona didn't want him.

taio · Post by **taio** » Mon May 07, 2018 4:18 pm

Shaqiri would be a steal at £12m. But he'll end up at a bigger club on wages we wouldn't pay. So I reckon no chance.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon May 07, 2018 4:23 pm

Aye probably West Ham bound on £100k a week

EarbyClaret · Post by **EarbyClaret** » Mon May 07, 2018 4:28 pm

Expect a close-season where we are linked with several higher profile players from relegated clubs.

Challenging summer for us, in addition to addressing the quality/cover deficit in certain areas, together with boosting the squad for the Europa League - we are losing big characters, Arfield and Marney, possibly others who embody the Dyche ethos.

It's going to be important to retain that next season as we're inevitably going to have to dig out PL results on occasion with the demands of European fixtures,

No Ney Never · Post by **No Ney Never** » Mon May 07, 2018 4:38 pm

If this is the quality of player we're looking to attract, then I'm encouraged. A 1st eleven player who, with a SD pre season, could most definitely take our style of play forward.

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Mon May 07, 2018 4:40 pm

Fat little fucjer, imagine how good he could be though?

Stan Tastic · Post by **Stan Tastic** » Mon May 07, 2018 4:41 pm

TVC15 wrote:That’s got to be one of the stupidest exaggerated comments in the history of the Universe ever ever !

Danny Ings was small, played no 10 role, great first touch and always liked to get a shot off quickly. He could beat a man and also liked a showboat / trick. He was also not scared of a tackle - they are all characteristics that Shaquri has got its just he has done it on a higher level and probably likes to run with the ball more.

Danny Ings was a lot taller, was a striker, right-footed with a bit of pace and worked hard tracking back.

There's absolutely no resemblance to Shaqiri, who even the Stoke fans think is lazy with a bad attitude.

I stand by my statement that it is the worst comparison known to man.

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Mon May 07, 2018 4:46 pm

Stan Tastic wrote: I stand by my statement that it is the worst comparison known to man.

There's been worse on here to be fair.

You do know though that this weirdo will stalk you all night, regards your differing opinion to his?

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Mon May 07, 2018 4:51 pm

Shaqiri is a world beater on his day, but I couldn’t think of a less Dyche type player than this. Small, lazy and a bit of a maverick. However when he’s on it there’s few can match his skill and ability to unlock any defence.

Steddyman · Post by **Steddyman** » Mon May 07, 2018 4:52 pm

Diesel wrote:There's been worse on here to be fair.

I think he's more like Peter Crouch.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon May 07, 2018 4:56 pm

dsr wrote:Depends what he's offered and who's offering. Why isn't he playing for Barcelona? There's two likely reasons. 1 - Stoke offered more money; 2 - Barcelona didn't want him.

That doesn't make sense, he didn't have to chose between A or B, he already had a nice long contract at Inter Milan, he didn't have to go anywhere. Reports at the time said he was stalling on a £60k a week offer from Stoke, so they had to throw more cash at him to convince him to join. He probably feels like he's due a pay rise and a nice new long contract elsewhere, I doubt he'd take a pay cut to join us.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Mon May 07, 2018 4:59 pm

No matter how low we got, I'd have ra

ther have watched us than rugby, which must be the most boring activity that humankind has yet devised.

So thanks ,Basil, but stick it where the yellow ball in the sky don't shine.

Edit....sorry, wrong thread.

A bit pi$$ed.

Shore claret · Post by **Shore claret** » Mon May 07, 2018 5:04 pm

I can see him going to wolves, they are going to spend big, is his agent the same as the they guy who has links with wolves?

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Mon May 07, 2018 5:06 pm

Shore claret wrote:I can see him going to wolves, they are going to spend big, is his agent the same as the they guy who has links with wolves?

You could be right but I think Wolves will be looking beyond the likes of Shaquiri.

Edit: The Wolves situation deserves it own thread, someone start one, I would but it would get deleted.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon May 07, 2018 5:19 pm

Diesel wrote:There's been worse on here to be fair.

You do know though that this weirdo will stalk you all night, regards your differing opinion to his?

Cheers !
Ffs the comparison to Danny Ings was more because he was the last no 10 type player we had since Robbie Blake and it’s the playmaker kind of player we don’t currently have.

If someone else disagrees fine - to say it’s one of the worst comparisons ever seen is just a bit f’in silly - but hey ho.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Mon May 07, 2018 5:25 pm

I'd be very surprised about this - i've always thought he's a bit like Ross Wallace in that he has a tendency to do the eye-catching bit of defending now and again, but he's not one for doing the ugly unglamorous and unheralded running every one of our team is expected to do. But perhaps I'm being unfair and if Dyche actually does want him, then fair enough.

Shore claret · Post by **Shore claret** » Mon May 07, 2018 5:26 pm

Diesel wrote:You could be right but I think Wolves will be looking beyond the likes of Shaquiri.

Edit: The Wolves situation deserves it own thread, someone start one, I would but it would get deleted.

I can see big Sam going the other way, they need players with championship experience and their strike force is complete bobbins.

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Mon May 07, 2018 5:33 pm

TVC15 wrote:If someone else disagrees fine - to say it’s one of the worst comparisons ever seen is just a bit f’in silly - but hey ho.

Haha, calm down.

Spice has come up with a cracker, look...

claretspice wrote: i've always thought he's a bit like Ross Wallace

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Mon May 07, 2018 5:34 pm

I wasn't comparing them as players, just in terms of their approach to the defensive side of the game.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon May 07, 2018 5:40 pm

To be fair he looked like Souness with that awful raking challenge he did on Loftus Cheeks calf near the end.

He also has a look of Charlie Drake about him - though I think Drake was right footed