well, how poor was that

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Sun May 13, 2018 5:26 pm

a few additons needed without a doubt. very poor again

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun May 13, 2018 5:27 pm

Disappointing result but wasn't poor.

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sun May 13, 2018 5:30 pm

Give it a rest will ya?
Two silly errors cost two goals.
Who cares

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Sun May 13, 2018 5:36 pm

Should have killed that off well before they equalised.

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Sun May 13, 2018 5:37 pm

Who cares

i care even if you dont

ebby · Post by **ebby** » Sun May 13, 2018 5:38 pm

Take off the rose tinted glasses, we were poor all through the game. Only one team wanted to win & it wasnt us.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sun May 13, 2018 5:39 pm

Long cost us. But cost us what ?

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun May 13, 2018 5:43 pm

ebby wrote:Take off the rose tinted glasses, we were poor all through the game. Only one team wanted to win & it wasnt us.

Rubbish.

Claretuk · Post by **Claretuk** » Sun May 13, 2018 5:47 pm

Sign Mawson/Dawson n we will be fine, long done ok as a temp fill in but long term he is not good enough 4 the prem.. enjoy the summer lads!

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sun May 13, 2018 5:48 pm

I thought there were a few bright spells and some good play from us during the game. But for a couple of unusual defensive lapses, we’d have won that game.

Hendrick, JBG and Cork all had reasonable games and compared to last weekend, today was much better. Whatever the result today, it didnt matter.

What a season.

Ooogeorgeorgeoghani · Post by **Ooogeorgeorgeoghani** » Sun May 13, 2018 5:49 pm

As Dyche said when you have nothing to play for you lose that edge , we don't have the quality to win games in 1st gear we need To be at our best and once we had achieved all we could some of the players have switched off costing us games , what we have achieved is phenomenal for our club , let's enjoy this now then look forward to a new challenge

Rumbletonk · Post by **Rumbletonk** » Sun May 13, 2018 5:55 pm

I thought we played some decent stuff. It was champagne football when you compare it to Huddersfield at home. Certainly need to create more but Dyche knows and I'm sure he'll address it this Summer. Who gives a crap about today's result. What a season

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Sun May 13, 2018 5:59 pm

ebby wrote:Take off the rose tinted glasses, we were poor all through the game. Only one team wanted to win & it wasnt us.

Good cast.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun May 13, 2018 6:00 pm

first 30 mins we were crap cause we hoofed it, last 15 mins of the first half we played it on the deck, created chances and scored. Forgot to come out second half. Bournemouth wanted it more than us which is the only thing I find unforgivable.

Looking forward to a summer off

ClaretAL · Post by **ClaretAL** » Sun May 13, 2018 6:15 pm

I wouldn't say poor? we bossed the game from start to Finnish, and 2 silly errors cost us. Some of the passing and reading of the game today was sublime, and looked every bit of a top 7 side. And FFS we have just had the best season in my time , and so must be a long time, so lighten up.

ewanrob · Post by **ewanrob** » Sun May 13, 2018 6:19 pm

Unfortunate mistakes, but hardly poor. We are lacking in some areas, without a doubt. But I'm sure the Gaffer knows where we need to improve. Overall, a fantastic season.

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Sun May 13, 2018 6:25 pm

Our season finished weeks ago. To come on here having a go at the manager and lads is simply pathetic. Can not believe the stick long has been given, he has had a great season and his our longest serving pro. OK Long screwed up today but what about Lowton?

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sun May 13, 2018 6:30 pm

Shows how much we are missing Mee
Long is a 4th choice CB, Tarks cannot play on left hand side
Tip tap in central midfield with neither able to put in a ball winning tackle or win a header
No real quality up front (Wells almost went into the top of the Jimmy Mac with his effort)
Ward back to his best and really creates good chances with JBG (another star performer)

ClaretJimmy · Post by **ClaretJimmy** » Sun May 13, 2018 6:33 pm

It wasn't that bad. It feels worse because of Long's mistake causing us to lose the game. Some nice saves from Pope, Hendrick had some nice movement and passing. Cork & Westy solid as per. Nothing on the game for either side so it lacked tempo.. already on the beach to coin a phrase, and you can't blame them, it's been a fantastic season. Cheer up, the sun is shining.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Sun May 13, 2018 6:57 pm

The 2 things that annoy me from the last 2 games are

we could have finished the season with a positive goal record

the long 40+ game record of not losing after having led at half time has now ended as a result of not being on it

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Sun May 13, 2018 7:42 pm

I thought we played well enough to win the game, very in Burnley like errors in defence cost us. But do what, we still finish in 7th place, something I am still trying to get my head around.

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Sun May 13, 2018 7:52 pm

The final result was disappointing. The game had been a mixed bag....
moments when we looked good and times when they were stronger. But what a season!

Today’s result will be mostly forgotten in a couple of days but we’ve so much to look forward to.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Sun May 13, 2018 8:01 pm

How did Nakhi Wells do? Isn't today, on as sub around 80 mins, one of his longer "run outs?"

PS: I originally read the subject as "Wells, how poor...."

UTC

Stalbansclaret · Post by **Stalbansclaret** » Sun May 13, 2018 8:03 pm

Really wasn't that poor at all and I thought we were particularly good in the first part of the second half . Maybe I'm bonkers but the reporter on radio 5 after the game seemed to think similarly and that we deserved to win Anyway I am really just wondering what on God's claret and blue earth can be the mentality of a Burnley supporter who is moved to start a thread with this title at this time !!!

Ooogeorgeorgeoghani · Post by **Ooogeorgeorgeoghani** » Sun May 13, 2018 8:18 pm

Start of the second half we were well on top a couple of really good opportunities to kill the game off but lacked any cutting edge up front , woods was poor apart from his goal but we really struggle without him and Barnes, think we need to splash the cash on a striker , our poor spell after Xmas coincided with woods injury shows this , is jay rid the answer ?

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun May 13, 2018 8:25 pm

Stalbansclaret wrote:...Anyway I am really just wondering what on God's claret and blue earth can be the mentality of a Burnley supporter who is moved to start a thread with this title at this time !!!

Take a look at who the OP is and you'll have your answer.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sun May 13, 2018 8:51 pm

First 30 mins we were slow off the mark, as usual. The rest of the game we dominated, apart from a few break always.
The main problem, which we've had before, is despite the domination we never worked Bergovic at all. Too many passes when sometimes one would do.
As for the goals we conceded, **** happens. They were 2 gifts, but don't represent our season at all.
An awful lot of players out and nothing to play for but pride. We did try hard, but the nous today was missing.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sun May 13, 2018 8:59 pm

Ooogeorgeorgeoghani wrote:Start of the second half we were well on top a couple of really good opportunities to kill the game off but lacked any cutting edge up front , woods was poor apart from his goal but we really struggle without him and Barnes, think we need to splash the cash on a striker , our poor spell after Xmas coincided with woods injury shows this , is jay rid the answer ?

Wood offers virtually nothing apart from goals, it took Vokes to come on for us to win the first header. To carry on like this he needs to be a 25 goal a season striker.

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Sun May 13, 2018 9:06 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:Wood offers virtually nothing apart from goals, it took Vokes to come on for us to win the first header. To carry on like this he needs to be a 25 goal a season striker.

You need to open your eyes then. No surprise to me that as soon as we had Vokes up front alone we struggle to p8sh onwards. Vokes is too immobile and allows defenc es to push out more.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sun May 13, 2018 9:09 pm

BabylonClaret wrote:You need to open your eyes then. No surprise to me that as soon as we had Vokes up front alone we struggle to p8sh onwards. Vokes is too immobile and allows defenc es to push out more.

You are entitled to your opinion as is anyone but Wood doesn't even attempt to jump for most headers.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun May 13, 2018 9:11 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:You are entitled to your opinion as is anyone but Wood doesn't even attempt to jump for most headers.

But he's still managed to score 10 in 24 matches - which is still very good going at this level for a team outside the top six.

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Sun May 13, 2018 9:11 pm

But definitely not poor. Bad result because our centre backs were all at sea today. But midfield played well and must have been a bit of a headache to decide who to pull for Wells.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sun May 13, 2018 9:17 pm

Spijed wrote:But he's still managed to score 10 in 24 matches - which is still very good going at this level for a team outside the top six.

That's why I said he offers nothing but goals. Not a bad record to have but he offers no more that I can see. Shame but we probably need to buy again.

Cooperclaret · Post by **Cooperclaret** » Sun May 13, 2018 9:19 pm

I’m more of a reader of this site these days than a poster and after stupid threads like this after the most magnificent season we have had in decades resulting in European football at the Turf next season - I will stay that way. But I logged on to say what a pathetic thing to write after what was a fantastic celebration of the season today.

The OP must clearly be “perfect”

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun May 13, 2018 9:30 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:That's why I said he offers nothing but goals. Not a bad record to have but he offers no more that I can see. Shame but we probably need to buy again.

Replace Wood?

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sun May 13, 2018 9:32 pm

Spijed wrote:Replace Wood?

Yeah

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sun May 13, 2018 9:32 pm

Whilst disappointing to lose today,there needs to be a look at our season overall,i thought we would finish lower mid-table 12-15th say,similar to Bournemouth,Newcastle et al,so yes we do need to strengthen,but hopefully the long-term injuries won't bite as hard next year.And the lure of European footy may entice players we wouldn't attract otherwise.

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Sun May 13, 2018 9:33 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:That's why I said he offers nothing but goals. Not a bad record to have but he offers no more that I can see. Shame but we probably need to buy again.

Its no coincidence that without him in the side we dont win anywhere near as much.
His movement is good. He gets in goal scoring positions and he worries defences. Theres a reason Sam is 3rd choice and we saw it again today.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sun May 13, 2018 9:33 pm

Cooperclaret wrote:I’m more of a reader of this site these days than a poster and after stupid threads like this after the most magnificent season we have had in decades resulting in European football at the Turf next season - I will stay that way. But I logged on to say what a pathetic thing to write after what was a fantastic celebration of the season today.

The OP must clearly be “perfect”

We have had a great season but he started a thread on today, which could of been extended up until after the Leicester game truth be told.

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Sun May 13, 2018 9:35 pm

Replace Wood?? Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

We were well on top until he went off injured. We need to replace Sam really.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sun May 13, 2018 9:38 pm

Our two cup-finals were Everton and Leicester at t'turf,we won both and exerted a lot of physical and mental energy doing so,it's natural that once we were virtually assured of 7th performances dipped slightly at this level that 1-2% can make a difference.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Sun May 13, 2018 9:40 pm

I didn't think it was that poor to be honest. I thought after the first 10-15 minutes, we dominated the first half, and until about 70 minutes we had the best of the second half too. We did so playing some good, progressive football, getting men into positive positions ahead of the ball and showing good attacking intent.

If we're being critical, we probably lacked a bit of quality in our final pass, and arguably didn't back up our better approach play by getting enough men into the box to get the final touch. We probably lacked the penetrating, forward passing that Brady and Defour offer us and which we've been unable to replace whilst they've been out (by the way, that we've got so many excellent results without our two best playmakers is remarkable in itself).

But "tee to green", we were pretty good and we got the ball down and played more than we have in most games since Defour got injured. Obviously, the other flaw today was that we conceded two bad goals, and perhaps there were some lulls in the game when we might have played with a bit more urgency to move the ball.

But this is nitpicking. We narrowly lost quite an entertaining, end of season game in a bit of a party atmospher, and it was actually a pretty good showcase for the way in which Dyche has tried to evolve us into a more fluid system this season, and where we might go with that next season - and I like what I see. And at the end of it, we're still 7th - seventh - in the Premier League, and in Europe. I quite enjoyed my day out if I'm honest.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun May 13, 2018 9:45 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:Yeah

Really?

You are talking about spending £40-50 million then, not £18 million on a player.

Btw, how many strikers at this level offer more than just score goals? Harry Kane, Mo Salah perhaps? and how many assists have they got? Very few I'd imagine.

CaptJohn · Post by **CaptJohn** » Sun May 13, 2018 9:49 pm

We weren't poor today but a couple of "schoolboy" errors cost us the match. That's why next season we will still be in a relegation battle from day one, exactly the same as we were this season. Whilst one or two Clarets have European glasses on it doesn't change the facts that this is one hell of a tough league where there is very little to choose between all teams below the top six.

Hard work got us where we are right now and it's the only way we will stay there.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sun May 13, 2018 9:52 pm

Bournemouth the only team outside the top six to score more than one goal against us in a league game this season.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Sun May 13, 2018 10:16 pm

One striker at home and constant back passing which led eventually to us gifted a very poor side the points.
The lad from the youth team deserved a half game not just 3 mins.Lennon was poor again.and GK didnt even get a run out in his last game for us
Sorry great season or not I was expecting a great game with us easy winners.Especially after the gutless game v Arsenal

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sun May 13, 2018 10:23 pm

Caernarfon_Claret wrote:Bournemouth the only team outside the top six to score more than one goal against us in a league game this season.

Burnley fans showed real class today. Letting the Bournemouth players take the plaudits from their fans AND applauding them off the pitch.never seen that before!

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sun May 13, 2018 10:24 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:Wood offers virtually nothing apart from goals, it took Vokes to come on for us to win the first header. To carry on like this he needs to be a 25 goal a season striker.

call me deluded, but aren't goals quite important in football ?

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sun May 13, 2018 10:30 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:One striker at home and constant back passing which led eventually to us gifted a very poor side the points.
The lad from the youth team deserved a half game not just 3 mins.Lennon was poor again.and GK didnt even get a run out in his last game for us
Sorry great season or not I was expecting a great game with us easy winners.Especially after the gutless game v Arsenal

Sorry but you are speaking utter sh-ite.
Firstly why were you expecting us to be easy winners ? We had literally nothing to play for whereas Bournemouth could have a positional swing today which could have cost or earned them a few million.
Secondly why would a lad who has never even made the bench before deserve 45 mins. Have you even ever seen him play before ? Do you not think that the manager put him on the bench simply as a reward for a very good season in the u23`s ?

And thirdly, we more than matched Bournemouth today. Up until Wood getting injured we were by far the better team in the second half. The first half was a non event really and a bit like a pre season friendly (for both teams).

Have a bit of perspective - words like "gutless" are ridiculous and show a complete lack of understanding of the context of where we are with nothing to play for and the job done in a brilliant season.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Sun May 13, 2018 10:35 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:One striker at home and constant back passing which led eventually to us gifted a very poor side the points.
The lad from the youth team deserved a half game not just 3 mins.Lennon was poor again.and GK didnt even get a run out in his last game for us
Sorry great season or not I was expecting a great game with us easy winners.Especially after the gutless game v Arsenal

‘I was expecting a great game with us easy winners’

Right in that sentence lies your problem!