Cricketfield Stand improvments

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Tue May 22, 2018 8:42 am

Nothing major, just the away team dressing room is being moved.
The first team one will then be increased in size, with a managers office attached.

It is a bit crowded under there for anyone who hasn't been under.

Not sure if this is due to Premier league/ European regulations, or was in the pipeline anyway.

Downside to all this, is we can expect further increases to the price of a twix

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Tue May 22, 2018 10:44 am

Hopefully we’re moving the away one to a portacabin in the car park.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Tue May 22, 2018 10:59 am

martin_p wrote:Hopefully we’re moving the away one to a portacabin in the car park.

...Tesco's car park...

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Tue May 22, 2018 11:01 am

Rick_Muller wrote:...Tesco's car park...

In Blackburn!

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Tue May 22, 2018 11:37 am

Hopefully not too much improvement, we wouldn't want them to get comfortable.
Besides the whole stand needs replacing. With rail seats as well. We could always use them as normal seats until the time of the enlightenment.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Tue May 22, 2018 11:44 am

The new disabled facilities and filling in the 2 corners is costing £12m.
Not sure how much of this we have to pay and whether any of it comes from centrally funded grants etc.

Think we will eventually replace Cricketfield as long as we keep our Premier League status. I know the club is looking at this now and has recently obtained quotes for building work, scaffolding etc.

Claretforever · Post by **Claretforever** » Tue May 22, 2018 12:06 pm

TVC15 wrote:The new disabled facilities and filling in the 2 corners is costing £12m.
Not sure how much of this we have to pay and whether any of it comes from centrally funded grants etc.

Think we will eventually replace Cricketfield as long as we keep our Premier League status. I know the club is looking at this now and has recently obtained quotes for building work, scaffolding etc.

I spoke with someone at the club 2-3 weeks ago and although no specifics were shared, I was told that there are big plans being discussed to a serious level if we stay up next season. The news about the CFS doesn’t surprise me because of that, although I’d much rather they sort the facia of the club on Brunshaw Road out first.

Belial · Post by **Belial** » Tue May 22, 2018 12:09 pm

martin_p wrote:Hopefully we’re moving the away one to a portacabin in the car park.

It's around the same size as one at the moment

Wokingclaret · Post by **Wokingclaret** » Tue May 22, 2018 1:00 pm

"The new disabled facilities and filling in the 2 corners is costing £12m."

Wasn't it around 3m, but I think that was before the Police Box was being demolished and incorporated in the new build.

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Tue May 22, 2018 1:03 pm

£12m seems ridiculous, unless we have some super hi tec medical gear in there as well.

Its a shame we can't just factor the disabled facilities into a wider project rather than be forced to rush this in, I believe due to some regulation change deadline.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Tue May 22, 2018 1:13 pm

£12m is the cost I was told by someone who is involved with the club and has been for many years.

We don`t have any choice in this because of the new regulation and i am guessing you have to build these to a certain agreed specification / standard.

I was also amazed at the amount and thought it was costing about £5m but the person who told me is close to the detail.

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Tue May 22, 2018 1:21 pm

Maybe 5m each plus 2m added for the police box would explain the total more or less?

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Tue May 22, 2018 1:30 pm

Thought this might have been about the “cattle market-esque” concourse.

Emailed the ground safety officer about it earlier this year. Didn’t even get a reply.

claret wizard · Post by **claret wizard** » Tue May 22, 2018 1:41 pm

bobinho wrote:Thought this might have been about the “cattle market-esque” concourse.

Emailed the ground safety officer about it earlier this year. Didn’t even get a reply.

The layout is nonsensical down there. The longest queue by far is for beer at halftime. The only outlet is right at the bottom of the stairs. So people queue up and then no one can get past to the food outlet or the toilets. Then people either head back through the melee to get to the TV or they stand outside the toilets blocking the way again. It's crazy. Move the beer to bottles and have it outside or at least set up a proper queue system like Watford do in a very small space.

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Tue May 22, 2018 2:06 pm

The police box could be a portakabin in Tesco car park Blackburn with the Away team dressing room

deanothedino · Post by **deanothedino** » Tue May 22, 2018 2:08 pm

Claretmatt4 wrote:£12m seems ridiculous, unless we have some super hi tec medical gear in there as well.

Its a shame we can't just factor the disabled facilities into a wider project rather than be forced to rush this in, I believe due to some regulation change deadline.

Will include new big screens as well.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Tue May 22, 2018 2:12 pm

Hopefully the new corner sections have considered possible future developments too.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Tue May 22, 2018 2:16 pm

Wokingclaret wrote:"The new disabled facilities and filling in the 2 corners is costing £12m."

Wasn't it around 3m, but I think that was before the Police Box was being demolished and incorporated in the new build.

Wow,is the police box going? End of an era that's been there as long as I can remember,anyone know when it was actually built?

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Tue May 22, 2018 2:18 pm

CnBtruntru wrote:The police box could be a portakabin in Tesco car park Blackburn with the Away team dressing room

I'd make the away teams get changed on the coach,and just make the home dressing rooms massive

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Tue May 22, 2018 2:24 pm

Perhaps they could make the rear of the CFS glass at the top row, so they can watch the cricket!

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Tue May 22, 2018 2:31 pm

deanothedino wrote:Will include new big screens as well.

For £12m Id want to be able to see it from the moon.

Claretforever · Post by **Claretforever** » Tue May 22, 2018 2:34 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Wow,is the police box going? End of an era that's been there as long as I can remember,anyone know when it was actually built?

Was it not done when the Bee Hole was extended over the summer of 1970? Or was it more like the 80’s when trouble was rife, despite the low crowds?

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Tue May 22, 2018 2:46 pm

Claretmatt4 wrote:£12m seems ridiculous, unless we have some super hi tec medical gear in there as well.

Its a shame we can't just factor the disabled facilities into a wider project rather than be forced to rush this in, I believe due to some regulation change deadline.

I can't agree. I think we've been dragging our feet on this for quite a while and it's about time disabled supporters weren't left out in the elements tbh.

deanothedino · Post by **deanothedino** » Tue May 22, 2018 2:47 pm

Claretmatt4 wrote:For £12m Id want to be able to see it from the moon.

Well, they won't be the whole cost obviously but depending on the size they could easily be £1m for a pair.

ClaretEngineer · Post by **ClaretEngineer** » Tue May 22, 2018 2:56 pm

The board simply can’t ignore the noise and atmosphere generated by the Cricketfield Stand.

It’s often a lot more cost effective to design and build a new stand than it is to attempt to modernise and update an older one. Especially with the changes in law, building regulations and safety since that stand was built.

If a new stand is built it should be engineered around the principles of the current regarding sound. They can do what they like behind and underneath.

Rail seating should be factored into the design planning, so it can be fitted at a later date without too much work.

ontario claret · Post by **ontario claret** » Tue May 22, 2018 4:27 pm

Hope they include a big hose in order to wash you lot down after the game.

Wokingclaret · Post by **Wokingclaret** » Tue May 22, 2018 5:04 pm

Its gone

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ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue May 22, 2018 5:13 pm

TVC15 wrote:The new disabled facilities and filling in the 2 corners is costing £12m

It's costing a significant amount but nowhere near that - it's closer to £5 million.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Tue May 22, 2018 5:14 pm

I don’t suppose there is any room for extra seating in these two corners are there?

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Tue May 22, 2018 5:37 pm

ClaretTony wrote:It's costing a significant amount but nowhere near that - it's closer to £5 million.

That is not what I have been told by someone who is close to both the club and also sits on various council committees including the planning one who have been involved in the scheme.

He may of course be making it up or just be wrong - but he told a few of us at a Board meeting for something completely unrelated.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Tue May 22, 2018 5:44 pm

Official site has a piece on the Police box demolition - with news on the Changing rooms to be broadcast tomorrow

https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/new ... r-and-out/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue May 22, 2018 5:47 pm

TVC15 wrote:That is not what I have been told by someone who is close to both the club and also sits on various council committees including the planning one who have been involved in the scheme.

He may of course be making it up or just be wrong - but he told a few of us at a Board meeting for something completely unrelated.

Mine came from an impeccable source although it was some months ago and the plans could have changed. I'd be amazed if they'd changed by that much.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Tue May 22, 2018 5:51 pm

Mine was 2 weeks ago. You will definitely know very well the person i’m talking about but can’t divulge it on here.

Like I said £12m seems very very high but I am told that the scheme has ended up very different to what the club originally expected / planned for.

Guess we’ll find our final costs at some point in the future.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Tue May 22, 2018 5:52 pm

Chester Perry wrote:Official site has a piece on the Police box demolition - with news on the Changing rooms to be broadcast tomorrow

https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/new ... r-and-out/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"A new control box will be incorporated into the new build, which despite encountering unexpected delays, is on course to be ready for the start of the 2018/19 Premier league season."

What were the holdups?

Barry_Chuckle · Post by **Barry_Chuckle** » Tue May 22, 2018 6:36 pm

Spijed wrote:"What were the holdups?

Someone had lost the key to the dry powder store

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Tue May 22, 2018 6:51 pm

TVC15 wrote:Mine was 2 weeks ago. You will definitely know very well the person i’m talking about but can’t divulge it on here.

Like I said £12m seems very very high but I am told that the scheme has ended up very different to what the club originally expected / planned for.

Guess we’ll find our final costs at some point in the future.

*cough* FFP Accounting *cough*

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Tue May 22, 2018 6:55 pm

TVC15 wrote:Like I said £12m seems very very high but I am told that the scheme has ended up very different to what the club originally expected / planned for.
Guess we’ll find our final costs at some point in the future.

Whatever the figure ends up at, the net cost of £2.64m ( after Grants etc ) for the James Hargreaves/Jimmy McIlroy Stands look more like the bargain of the Century than ever, even at 1996 prices !!

deanothedino · Post by **deanothedino** » Tue May 22, 2018 7:10 pm

South West Claret. wrote:I don’t suppose there is any room for extra seating in these two corners are there?

So Walton can take pics of the empty seats in them?

mybloodisclaret · Post by **mybloodisclaret** » Tue May 22, 2018 7:49 pm

Does anyone know what these corner stands are going to look like? Im guessing the ones posted on here a few months ago that look like theyd be drawn up in the Miners werent 12 million pounds worth of kit?

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Tue May 22, 2018 8:54 pm

MACCA wrote:Nothing major, just the away team dressing room is being moved.
The first team one will then be increased in size, with a managers office attached.

It is a bit crowded under there for anyone who hasn't been under.

Not sure if this is due to Premier league/ European regulations, or was in the pipeline anyway.

Downside to all this, is we can expect further increases to the price of a twix

WTF is all this twix thing? have folk not worked out that if you buy one before you go on your quids in.

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Tue May 22, 2018 9:09 pm

Genuinely think they should allocate the whole of the cricket field to the home fans, and give the away fans the lower tier of the JM.

Then takeout odd seats between season ticket holders, to free up space and preferably ask people to move, to allocate a full ticketed only section in the upper tier of the JM. Meaning non season ticket holders could buy pairings of tickets, where as now a lot of the last tickets remaining are odd seats that don't get filled as usually people go to the football with somebody.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Tue May 22, 2018 9:17 pm

The £12m figure will be for more than just the stands - Their will be UEFA requirements - for Officials, Press and Visiting teams that need to be catered for and the club appears to be spending some of this years additional income on upgrading "working facilities" for the players (in just the same way as Dyche referred to the Gawthorpe upgrade and the players lounge/managers lounge at the club) - hence work on the dressing rooms - no doubt we will find out more in the next few days as the video posted earlier hinted

Inchy · Post by **Inchy** » Tue May 22, 2018 9:37 pm

Chester Perry wrote:The £12m figure will be for more than just the stands - Their will be UEFA requirements - for Officials, Press and Visiting teams that need to be catered for and the club appears to be spending some of this years additional income on upgrading "working facilities" for the players (in just the same way as Dyche referred to the Gawthorpe upgrade and the players lounge/managers lounge at the club) - hence work on the dressing rooms - no doubt we will find out more in the next few days as the video posted earlier hinted

Was just going to say the same thing. 12m will probably be the total cost for all ground improvements starting this summer

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed May 23, 2018 7:24 am

bartons baggage wrote:WTF is all this twix thing? have folk not worked out that if you buy one before you go on your quids in.

You used to be able to get a Twix extra ( big Twix ) for about 50/60p a few seasons ago. They were also part of the Pint and a snack deal, at £4 which represented semi decent value.
Since we have been making 50m profit a season in the heavy heights of the premier league, the club decided to reduce the size of the Twix to a standard size, whilst increasing the cost to about £1
In it's richest period ever, it seemed the club were doing everything they could possible to maximise profit at every chance possible ( rip off fans in short )

It has since been a running joke ala Andrew Driver, dry powder, touch and go.

However it is a very serious matter, and some of the more passionate fans are planning on coupling our European exploits, with the import of Twix to sell on the black market.
A very risky, yet worthwhile operation.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Wed May 23, 2018 8:31 am

New training facility and wee build for a disabled facility, similar price? Doesn't sound right at all.

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Wed May 23, 2018 8:39 am

IanMcL wrote:New training facility and wee build for a disabled facility, similar price? Doesn't sound right at all.

i dont think a "wee build" gets anywhere near to describing the job

Foshiznik · Post by **Foshiznik** » Wed May 23, 2018 11:10 am

People are forgetting that as part of the build, we had to remove the safe full of the Twix supplies from the site to the Bank of England gold vaults. That wouldn't have been a cheap job.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Wed May 23, 2018 11:23 am

Awful chocolate bar"twix" gimme a Dark Bounty any day!

Foshiznik · Post by **Foshiznik** » Wed May 23, 2018 12:12 pm

tim_noone wrote:Awful chocolate bar"twix" gimme a Dark Bounty any day!

You could buy several bounties for the price of a Twix.

Rouwens_Weapon · Post by **Rouwens_Weapon** » Wed May 23, 2018 12:18 pm

Small improvements I would suggest -
*Sort out the drainage by the exit - the puddles can be huge.
*Sell Beer in the kiosk outside - this would move the beer queue further down to allow people to go for a pee.
*Utilise the other side of the entrance (maybe a TV, food stall or bottle bar), it's usually got 25% of the people standing there as opposed to the 'main' side where the Bar / TV is now.