Tommy Robinson

Lord Rothbury · Post by **Lord Rothbury** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:55 pm

Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:No there isn't.

When crimes like this are brought to light they are investigated and, if there is enough evidence, the perpetrators are punished.

Perhaps we should all take the same view as Naz Shah when she retweeted "These abused girls in Rotherham and elsewhere just need to shut their mouths for the good of diversity" Of course she put a like on the original tweet and then retweeted it by mistake.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:58 pm

Lord Rothbury wrote:Perhaps we should all take the same view as Naz Shah when she retweeted "These abused girls in Rotherham and elsewhere just need to shut their mouths for the good of diversity" Of course she put a like on the original tweet and then retweeted it by mistake.

The official statement on the matter was:

This was a genuine accident eight days ago that was rectified within minutes. To suggest otherwise is absolute nonsense.

“Her record speaks for itself. Naz has been working for over 20 years on the issues of child abuse, violence against women and grooming, which is well documented.”

Lord Rothbury · Post by **Lord Rothbury** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:01 pm

So she put a like on the tweet by mistake then followed it up by retweeting it by mistake .Very careless lady is Naz Shah.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:52 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:The official statement on the matter was:

And you believe that explanation? And if you believe it don't you think someone that ******* stupid shouldn't be an MP?

SussexDon1inIreland · Post by **SussexDon1inIreland** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:29 am

Good news for you people who hate Tommy Robinson, the authorities have now moved him to Leicester prison a Category A prison, for his minor crime (which seemed politically motivated to me) but which doesn't warrant a Category A prison (dead dodgy again why ??), where the prison population is over 70% muslim and therefore he will be attacked and probably killed, like the guy who placed some bacon on a mosque door handle got a year in prison for it and was then killed in prison by muslims. On a day when yet another "Asian" grooming gang are convicted for their heinous crimes in Oxford, the authorities prefer to have people like TR locked up and probably killed rather than do anything about the problem of grooming gangs which TR has been campaigning against for over 10 years.

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Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:32 am

Hahahahahahahahahahaha

People on UTB reporting stories from Prison Planet with a straight face.

Thick as mince. Thick as mince.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:46 am

SussexDon1inIreland wrote:Good news for you people who hate Tommy Robinson, the authorities have now moved him to Leicester prison a Category A prison, for his minor crime (which seemed politically motivated to me) but which doesn't warrant a Category A prison (dead dodgy again why ??), where the prison population is over 70% muslim and therefore he will be attacked and probably killed, like the guy who placed some bacon on a mosque door handle got a year in prison for it and was then killed in prison by muslims. On a day when yet another "Asian" grooming gang are convicted for their heinous crimes in Oxford, the authorities prefer to have people like TR locked up and probably killed rather than do anything about the problem of grooming gangs which TR has been campaigning against for over 10 years.

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Surely the fact you noted that the Asian grooming gang were convicted answers you're own question,why Tommy Robinson has been moved to a Category A prison,that i admit is strange and could cause issues with other inmates both Asian and non-Asian,the last thing our prison service needs is any kind of race war breaking out.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:50 am

SussexDon1inIreland wrote:Good news for you people who hate Tommy Robinson, the authorities have now moved him to Leicester prison a Category A prison, for his minor crime (which seemed politically motivated to me) but which doesn't warrant a Category A prison (dead dodgy again why ??), where the prison population is over 70% muslim and therefore he will be attacked and probably killed, like the guy who placed some bacon on a mosque door handle got a year in prison for it and was then killed in prison by muslims. On a day when yet another "Asian" grooming gang are convicted for their heinous crimes in Oxford, the authorities prefer to have people like TR locked up and probably killed rather than do anything about the problem of grooming gangs which TR has been campaigning against for over 10 years.

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Great contradiction in the space of a couple of sentences

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:27 pm

category A prison for a category A dickhead.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:33 pm

SussexDon1inIreland wrote:Good news for you people who hate Tommy Robinson, the authorities have now moved him to Leicester prison a Category A prison, for his minor crime (which seemed politically motivated to me) but which doesn't warrant a Category A prison (dead dodgy again why ??), where the prison population is over 70% muslim and therefore he will be attacked and probably killed, like the guy who placed some bacon on a mosque door handle got a year in prison for it and was then killed in prison by muslims. On a day when yet another "Asian" grooming gang are convicted for their heinous crimes in Oxford, the authorities prefer to have people like TR locked up and probably killed rather than do anything about the problem of grooming gangs which TR has been campaigning against for over 10 years.

Attacked and killed with a drug overdose? https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bris ... an-1602270" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:45 pm

aggi wrote:Attacked and killed with a drug overdose? https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bris ... an-1602270" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

You can’t trust the Bristol Post!

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:13 pm

Tommy Robinson, the man imprisoned for committing crimes while trying to report on Asian grooming gangs getting away with it all the time but doing this outside a court where an accused Asian grooming gang was on trial, which made it more likely they'd get away with it, is now in prison along side other Asian grooming gang prisoners who he said didn't exist in prisons because they apparently get away with it.

Oh, and we also have Tommy Robinson supporters complaining that prison conditions are too harsh.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:22 pm

28 Muslim prisoners at HMP Hull.

So that would make it a prison with about 35 prisoners.

Guess how many prisoners there are at HMP Hull?

956

Actual percentage 2.93%

Words fail me

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:25 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:28 Muslim prisoners at HMP Hull.

So that would make it a prison with about 35 prisoners.

Guess how many prisoners there are at HMP Hull?

956

Actual percentage 2.93%

Words fail me

Yeah but **** your facts.

Lord Rothbury · Post by **Lord Rothbury** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:28 pm

Grooming gangs is an incorrect term many of them are actually child rapists.A cat A prison is hardly called for for the offence Robinson committed.

android · Post by **android** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:29 pm

I think you write some rubbish at times IT but that's a genuine (not sarcastic) like from me for post 862. I agree with your sentiments and although it is a serious subject that really made me laugh.

Loyalclaret · Post by **Loyalclaret** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:31 pm

aggi wrote:Attacked and killed with a drug overdose? https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bris ... an-1602270" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yeah, but, the dealers in prison are all black, as are the suppliers and screws who facilitate the drug trade

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:47 pm

SussexDon1inIreland wrote:Good news for you people who hate Tommy Robinson, the authorities have now moved him to Leicester prison a Category A prison, for his minor crime (which seemed politically motivated to me) but which doesn't warrant a Category A prison (dead dodgy again why ??), where the prison population is over 70% muslim and therefore he will be attacked and probably killed, like the guy who placed some bacon on a mosque door handle got a year in prison for it and was then killed in prison by muslims. On a day when yet another "Asian" grooming gang are convicted for their heinous crimes in Oxford, the authorities prefer to have people like TR locked up and probably killed rather than do anything about the problem of grooming gangs which TR has been campaigning against for over 10 years.

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A village has lost its idiot

Caballo · Post by **Caballo** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:49 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:28 Muslim prisoners at HMP Hull.

So that would make it a prison with about 35 prisoners.

Guess how many prisoners there are at HMP Hull?

956

Actual percentage 2.93%

Words fail me

Wasn't the 70% a reference to the prison he's now been moved to Leicester, (not a cat A prison by the way) from Hull?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:59 pm

He copied and pasted directly from prison planet so i don't know to be honest.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:18 pm

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... n-12706229" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:30 pm

Tommy Robinson, jailed, just for being white. It’s like Mandela all over again.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:01 pm

And the right wonder why we think they're thick.

Burnley Ace · Post by **Burnley Ace** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:15 pm

The category of prison is determined by the prisoner not the offence that has been committed (though they often go hand in hand). Robinson has been moved to an “A” prison for his protection, a prison where there is high levels of security and he can be looked after.

Hapag Lloyd · Post by **Hapag Lloyd** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:55 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:And the right wonder why WE think they're thick.

When you say we, are you referring to all your other usernames as well?

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:01 pm

Hands up now.

Who here will be glad if he gets killed in Prison?

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:09 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:Hands up now.

Who here will be glad if he gets killed in Prison?

Don’t think anyone can justify being glad of the death of another human being. Not someone who’s merely a nuisance at best anyway.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:11 pm

No one wants him killed in prison.

The fact you even think that suggests that you've gone full prison planet.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:16 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:No one wants him killed in prison.

The fact you even think that suggests that you've gone full prison planet.

Do you honestly believe that?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:27 pm

Yeah, because I'm not drunk on far right propaganda.

Whats your excuse for believing it?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:28 pm

Give us some credible sources as evidence why you believe a complete bellend will be allowed to die in prison, which would cause far more problems for everybody.

Just make sure they are credible

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:34 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:Do you honestly believe that?

I really dislike the man, not because I oppose everything he says, he has some valid points, I just think his methods are making things worse rather than better and I question his agenda.

Issues need to be solved via dialogue and communities working together. This kind of agressive stance on everything only serves to drive people away and creates more fear and hatred.

I wouldn’t wish him dead for that. I think he’s making a lot of money out of a bad situation and that’s why he’s using the agressive methods that he does. If the problems are solved, he loses his cash cow.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:35 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Give us some credible sources as evidence why you believe a complete bellend will be allowed to die in prison, which would cause far more problems for everybody.

Just make sure they are credible

I never said I thought he would

just that I bet there are many (even one or two on here) who would be happy if he did.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:46 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:I never said I thought he would

just that I bet there are many (even one or two on here) who would be happy if he did.

Do you wanna build a Strawman?
One that's made out of hay
Truth don't matter any more
Walked out the door
It's left and gone away

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:52 pm

I never said I thought he would

just that I bet there are many (even one or two on here) who would be happy if he did.

Right, so apologies for assuming you did.

But seriously, you think there are people on here who want a man to die in prison just because he's a far right tool?

He's in prison, and he'll come out still being a far right tool but we live in a democracy, he's allowed to be a far right tool, just like I'm allowed to call him a far right tool.

You come across as a sound bloke and I am not going to lecture you on what you believe, but there are tiny minority of fascists in this country but they are stoking everything they possible can to make things worse. Just don't fall for the rhetoric.

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:56 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Right, so apologies for assuming you did.

But seriously, you think there are people on here who want a man to die in prison just because he's a far right tool?

He's in prison, and he'll come out still being a far right tool but we live in a democracy, he's allowed to be a far right tool, just like I'm allowed to call him a far right tool.

You come across as a sound bloke and I am not going to lecture you on what you believe, but there are tiny minority of fascists in this country but they are stoking everything they possible can to make things worse. Just don't fall for the rhetoric.

He’ll come out a far right tool millionaire.

Knows exactly what he’s doing.

He’s taking donations for his defence even though he plead guilty and used a public defender

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:58 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Right, so apologies for assuming you did.

But seriously, you think there are people on here who want a man to die in prison just because he's a far right tool?

I think he really does think that.

People like moffitt thinks people like me hate him, because he hates people like me. It's projection. A thief thinks everyone steals and that's why the wingnuts of the far right genuinely think we want Robinson dead.

They also like to play the victim so projecting their own attitudes onto others as if they're held about them satisfies their victim complex.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:59 pm

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:He’ll come out a far right tool millionaire.

Knows exactly what he’s doing.

He’s taking donations for his defence even though he plead guilty and used a public defender

good for him.

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:02 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote: good for him.

That old saying about fools and their money comes to mind

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:16 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Right, so apologies for assuming you did.

But seriously, you think there are people on here who want a man to die in prison just because he's a far right tool?

He's in prison, and he'll come out still being a far right tool but we live in a democracy, he's allowed to be a far right tool, just like I'm allowed to call him a far right tool.

You come across as a sound bloke and I am not going to lecture you on what you believe, but there are tiny minority of fascists in this country but they are stoking everything they possible can to make things worse. Just don't fall for the rhetoric.

Sure you can, anyone can say anything negative they like about him, and it's totally fine, which is the way it should be. However, with that said, you can't voice any type of support for him in many professions for fear of losing your job, so it's certainly not equal both ways. I can, because luckily i'm self employed so I can't be held to ransom over my thoughts and opinions but many are forced to keep silent and it only further fuels their resentment and feeling of being oppressed.

Imploding Turtle wrote:
I think he really does think that.

People like moffitt thinks people like me hate him, because he hates people like me. It's projection. A thief thinks everyone steals and that's why the wingnuts of the far right genuinely think we want Robinson dead.

They also like to play the victim so projecting their own attitudes onto others as if they're held about them satisfies their victim complex.

Lol I don't hate you Turts. Stop being so sensitive.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:17 pm

Why would you support him?

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:22 pm

I support Tommy Robinson and Abu Hamza equally.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:26 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Why would you support him?

Honestly?

Because hes a working class lad who came up through the **** and saw all the same problems that I did, he compromised his own personal safety and directly confronted extremists, gangs, drug dealers, and groomers at a time when absolutely nobody else was paying any attention. People like him were shouting about grooming gangs 10 years before you heard about Rotherham or any of the rest. I genuinely believe he is not a far right fascist, I genuinely believe he is not a racist; I think he is just a normal rough round the edges bloke, who see's the problems of Islam and Muslim communities and just had the bottle to say something about it, when everyone else either shut their eyes, or pretended they don't exist.

He may be getting rich now from it now that the Americans are starting to bankroll him, but up until recently all he has ever done is put a massive target on his back by angering some very VERY dangerous people for saying things that often should be said.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:29 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:Honestly?

Because hes a working class lad who came up through the **** and saw all the same problems that I did, he compromised his own personal safety and directly confronted extremists, gangs, drug dealers, and groomers at a time when absolutely nobody else was paying any attention. People like him were shouting about grooming gangs 10 years before you heard about Rotherham or any of the rest. I genuinely believe he is not a far right fascist, I genuinely believe he is not a racist; I think he is just a normal rough round the edges bloke, who see's the problems of Islam and Muslim communities and just had the bottle to say something about it, when everyone else either shut their eyes, or pretended they don't exist.

He may be getting rich now from it now that the Americans are starting to bankroll him, but up until recently all he has ever done is put a massive target on his back by angering some very VERY dangerous people for saying things that often should be said.

You really don’t think he’s racist?

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:33 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:You really don’t think he’s racist?

I really don't, no.

I think he hates Islam.

I think he hates a lot of muslims.

But do I think he hates people based on their race? No.

Do I think he hates all muslims just because they are muslims? No.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:39 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote: Lol I don't hate you Turts. Stop being so sensitive.

Why do you keep thinking there is emotion in what i say?

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:40 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:Honestly?

Because hes a working class lad who came up through the **** and saw all the same problems that I did, he compromised his own personal safety and directly confronted extremists, gangs, drug dealers, and groomers at a time when absolutely nobody else was paying any attention. People like him were shouting about grooming gangs 10 years before you heard about Rotherham or any of the rest. I genuinely believe he is not a far right fascist, I genuinely believe he is not a racist; I think he is just a normal rough round the edges bloke, who see's the problems of Islam and Muslim communities and just had the bottle to say something about it, when everyone else either shut their eyes, or pretended they don't exist.

He may be getting rich now from it now that the Americans are starting to bankroll him, but up until recently all he has ever done is put a massive target on his back by angering some very VERY dangerous people for saying things that often should be said.

Just to be clear, Islam and Muslim communities aren’t a problem.

They have some problems within their communities that need to be addressed by dialogue and proper education of what this country expects of its citizens behaviours legally as a minimum, culturally additionally.

Violent marches, widespread condemnation of their beliefs and incoherent hatred is not the answer. It will merely fuel hostilities, the issues will be pushed more underground and hidden further from sight.

Yaxley has made money out of this consistently for years. Do you not think he made money from the EDL? Merhandise, sponsorship , membership. He released his first book three years ago. It’s increased now, but he’s been earning big money for a while.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:26 pm

He's got a rap sheet of offences as long as your arm.

He's a football hooligan, who also happens to be a racist, who also beat up his girlfriend, whose a convicted mortgage fraudster, who also changed his name so he appealed to people like yourself.

And you admire the ****?

Christ on a bike

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:28 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:He's got a rap sheet of offences as long as your arm.

He's a football hooligan, who also happens to be a racist, who also beat up his girlfriend, whose a convicted mortgage fraudster, who also changed his name so he appealed to people like yourself.

And you admire the ****?

Christ on a bike

Apart from all that top bloke!

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:57 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:Honestly?

Because hes a working class lad who came up through the **** and saw all the same problems that I did, he compromised his own personal safety and directly confronted extremists, gangs, drug dealers, and groomers at a time when absolutely nobody else was paying any attention. People like him were shouting about grooming gangs 10 years before you heard about Rotherham or any of the rest. I genuinely believe he is not a far right fascist, I genuinely believe he is not a racist; I think he is just a normal rough round the edges bloke, who see's the problems of Islam and Muslim communities and just had the bottle to say something about it, when everyone else either shut their eyes, or pretended they don't exist.

He may be getting rich now from it now that the Americans are starting to bankroll him, but up until recently all he has ever done is put a massive target on his back by angering some very VERY dangerous people for saying things that often should be said.

I haven't followed his career closely so I genuinely don't know the answer to this: has he confronted extremists, gangs, drug dealers, and groomers that weren't Muslims?

If the answer is 'no' then surely you can see why people may suspect he could be far right fascist.