ARTICLE: Beast back at Bury after Crusaders release

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:15 pm

New role for our former goalkeeper after being released in Northern Ireland

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Papabendi · Post by **Papabendi** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:22 pm

If he is 'there to learn' then I feel sorry for the goalkeepers on the playing staff

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:24 pm

Give it a few months he will be asking Crusaders for a testimonial

FeedTheArf · Post by **FeedTheArf** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:33 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Give it a few months he will be asking Crusaders for a testimonial

Or use the next few months to flog all of his Crusaders training gear he'd accumulated on eBay like he did at Burnley... not for charity but his own pocket

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:34 pm

I’ll never truly get my head around the snide vitriol and needless opprobrium directed at Brian Jensen by some on here.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:43 pm

FeedTheArf wrote:Or use the next few months to flog all of his Crusaders training gear he'd accumulated on eBay like he did at Burnley... not for charity but his own pocket

Did he actually? I can't imagine he made much, who would want a XXXXL goalkeeping training top worn by one of the worst goalkeepers I've ever seen? He was one big soft goalkeeper.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:48 pm

Lord Beamish wrote:I’ll never truly get my head around the snide vitriol and needless opprobrium directed at Brian Jensen by some on here.

Pushing Lee Grant out of the team didn’t help matters.

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:07 pm

1 good season doesn't disguise what a poor keeper he was. A massive crybaby when he couldn't get in the team too.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:12 pm

I still have flashbacks of Jensen running out of his area and picking the ball up at Luton

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:19 pm

KRBFC wrote:I still have flashbacks of Jensen running out of his area and picking the ball up at Luton

Was it against Wolves where he ran out of area and rugby tackled someone?

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:21 pm

Next stop Sporting Lisbon

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:21 pm

Murger wrote:Was it against Wolves where he ran out of area and rugby tackled someone?

Yeah Kevin Doyle I think

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:24 pm

Do you remember that brilliant night at Chelsea where he was excellent, and saved a penalty in the shoot-out. Do you remember that promotion season?

So what if he picked one up at Luton FFS.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:27 pm

KRBFC wrote:Yeah Kevin Doyle I think

Not even the right team.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:28 pm

dandeclaret wrote:Do you remember that brilliant night at Chelsea where he was excellent, and saved a penalty in the shoot-out. Do you remember that promotion season?

So what if he picked one up at Luton FFS.

He had a good 6 month in the promotion season, 6 months in 10 years doesn't give a fair reflection on his ability as a goalkeeper.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:30 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Not even the right team.

How is it not the right team? Doyle played for Wolves in 2009-2010

Mick McCarthy said: "I thought my luck had turned when Kevin got up because when Brian Jensen hits you, you tend to stay down."

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:32 pm

Go on then, based on the fact he spent the majority of his career in England as a championship level goalkeeper, what DOES give an indication to his ability? A mistake at Luton, and bringing a player down in his first game (Palace seems to stick in my mind, but could be wrong).

Bop · Post by **Bop** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:32 pm

Coaching kids locally to me. With all the luck in the world you don’t get to play Chamionship & Premier League football if you’re a bad keeper. Bad games...maybe. Not a bad career.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:33 pm

dandeclaret wrote:Go on then, based on the fact he spent the majority of his career in England as a championship level goalkeeper, what DOES give an indication to his ability? A mistake at Luton, and bringing a player down in his first game (Palace seems to stick in my mind, but could be wrong).

He was lucky Danny Coyne got injured and Kiraly forced out for unknown reasons.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:33 pm

He had an unbelievable game on a win at Bradford when we were in danger of going down under Stan.

Still didn't get MOM in the match report.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:35 pm

His own goal away against Birmingham was another hilarious moment, the goal from Paul Ince on the Turf summed him up, big giant frame but you could blow him over

BurnleySYS · Post by **BurnleySYS** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:39 pm

His performance at the Turf against Reading under Coyle(I think) was one of the best goalkeeping displays i have seen from a Burnley goalkeeper. He was world class that night they battered us he made some world class saves and we ended up nicking it 1-0 thanks to the little magician that is Robbie Blake.

But on the whole i do agree he was a poor keeper.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:47 pm

His best game was that Arsenal cup game, saved about 7 1 on 1s from Bentdner

BurnleySYS · Post by **BurnleySYS** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:53 pm

KRBFC wrote:His best game was that Arsenal cup game, saved about 7 1 on 1s from Bentdner

Carlos Vela too ?

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:02 pm

KRBFC wrote:How is it not the right team? Doyle played for Wolves in 2009-2010

Mick McCarthy said: "I thought my luck had turned when Kevin got up because when Brian Jensen hits you, you tend to stay down."

Apologies I thought you were referring to his fake stretcher moment against Wigan.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:24 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Pushing Lee Grant out of the team didn’t help matters.

Grant was hardly a super keeper.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:36 pm

IanMcL wrote:Grant was hardly a super keeper.

It’s not always how good you are that matters with some people.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:43 pm

Old Parry Grant was probably a better Keeper than Jensen; but not always in the eyes of the Manager of the time.

MDWat · Post by **MDWat** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:48 pm

KRBFC wrote:His best game was that Arsenal cup game, saved about 7 1 on 1s from Bentdner

His best game was the 1-0 win against Reading at home, where Blake scored with about 10 minutes left. He was incredible that night.

BurnleySYS · Post by **BurnleySYS** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:51 pm

Danny Coyne was a dwarf compared to other keepers.

BurnleySYS · Post by **BurnleySYS** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:52 pm

MDWat wrote:His best game was the 1-0 win against Reading at home, where Blake scored with about 10 minutes left. He was incredible that night.

See post #22

MDWat · Post by **MDWat** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:53 pm

BurnleySYS wrote:See post #22

Hadn’t seen your post. Great minds and all that...

Claretitus · Post by **Claretitus** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:55 pm

I could never really understand why we signed him in the first place. Stan must have had his pick from a large number of keepers that summer, and we ended up with a WBA reserve. Loved by many Clarets, but not even a good keeper, never mind a great one, the penalty saves aside. And yes, I was at Stamford Bridge on that famous night.

Claretitus · Post by **Claretitus** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:58 pm

Oh yes, almost forgot this one! My mum once got his autograph on a plain white paper bag, in Oddies bakery in Padiham at lunchtime after training finished. The Beast bought a sandwich and a pie!

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:08 pm

This crap goalkeeper who, despite being useless, kept out Coyne, Grant and Kiraly.
Inconsistent yes. but not as bad as some would like to believe.

1Simpleton · Post by **1Simpleton** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:09 pm

C'mon CT, you must have known because of various other threads this was a flier. Plenty in the keep net. The only question is will u let them go? Personally I liked Jensen, even felt sorry for him after his last game at Barnsley, because the ten in front of hie were no better

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:18 pm

boatshed bill wrote:This crap goalkeeper who, despite being useless, kept out Coyne, Grant and Kiraly.
Inconsistent yes. but not as bad as some would like to believe.

He got dropped for Coyne then Coyne got badly injured

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:22 pm

KRBFC wrote:He got dropped for Coyne then Coyne got badly injured

Yes, but didn't he keep Coyne out when he returned from that injury?
To be fair, it's a long time ago and I can't remember the details

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:27 pm

The goalkeeper that played in our first ever promotion to The Premier League and run to a cup semi final, played a huge part in the run in and he gets stick like this.

Shouldnt surprise though as Arfield who scored a winner at Ewood (and was generally an excellent player for us) spent the last two or three years getting stick (along with Boyd, Jones, etc).

Beast was a good keeper and extremely important for us.

Jay left us and gets his name sung for the opposition
Shackell captained us to promotion and gets booed

Seems our fans dont like us having succesful players!

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:28 pm

No denying that in the promotion season, he played some blinders. He also had some nightmares in the very same season.

Outside of that one season, he was a distinctly average goalkeeper, although to be fair to him, it shouldn’t overshadow the part he played in that great season of promotion and cups.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:32 pm

People are saying he was a bad keeper (or even average)...

Do You realise how good you have to be to play a season at championship level? Or even a game?

He played almost 500 professional games, almost 400 of which at West Brom and Burnley in the top two divisions.

Average

Gnulty · Post by **Gnulty** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:35 pm

He did his job and did it good enough at the time....

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:43 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:People are saying he was a bad keeper (or even average)...

Do You realise how good you have to be to play a season at championship level? Or even a game?

He played almost 500 professional games, almost 400 of which at West Brom and Burnley in the top two divisions.

Average

Depends what you are using as your barometer, CFC.

That he made it to the highest level by playing in the premier league of course means that he wasn’t an average keeper, but this isn’t comparing him to an average Joe.

He’s being compared to Championship keepers, by which standards I firmly believe that he was pretty average. Move up to the top division and he was mediocre at best.

You’re not making a sensible comparison.

Espia · Post by **Espia** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:50 pm

The cry of Beast from the terraces was a regular, so he can't have been all that bad.

All the best keepers have had the honour of a unique chant.

Oh Alan , Alan, .... Alan, Alan Stevenson.

Pee.... Erce !!!

Can't remember mellor having one.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:53 pm

Espia wrote:The cry of Beast from the terraces was a regular, so he can't have been all that bad.

All the best keepers have had the honour of a unique chant.

Oh Alan , Alan, .... Alan, Alan Stevenson.

Pee.... Erce !!!

Can't remember mellor having one.

Someone giving us a dance didnt make him a great keeper.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:58 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Apologies I thought you were referring to his fake stretcher moment against Wigan.

I thought we were talking about this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybyUsZDDzCE

1Simpleton · Post by **1Simpleton** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:00 pm

Correct Pearce was not all that good but it does not stop him being a cult hero.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:01 pm

1Simpleton wrote:Correct Pearce was not all that good but it does not stop him being a cult hero.

Dont disagree with that

deanothedino · Post by **deanothedino** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:21 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:The goalkeeper that played in our first ever promotion to The Premier League and run to a cup semi final, played a huge part in the run in and he gets stick like this

Played a decent part in our first ever relegation from the Premier League too...

That Wigan game at home was the turning point. After that we were going down with or without Coyle as it just took the wind out of our sails.

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:29 pm

Could never understand the love in with Jensen from some of our supporters. The vast majority of his time he was poor, especially the 2009/10 season. He was to big and fat to get down in the corners and he couldn't read the game