can England win the World Cup again.

[FactualFrank]

I think it depends in what game Harry Kane gets injured and how many matches he misses.

[piston broke]

South Africa 2010 Germany 4 England 1 and they should have had 8. They murdered us and Lampards over the line goal wouldn’t have made much difference in the second half even if it had stood they were all over us completely different class

Rubbish. Lampards goal would have made it 2-2 from being 2 down. Advantage us at that time.

[wickdkewlclaret]

I don't think our World Cup success rests on Kane's shoulders, I think Vardy will have a big part to play, his additional pace combined with Sterling etc will be the key. Pace will be our strong point this campaign.

[Spijed]

Rubbish. Lampards goal would have made it 2-2 from being 2 down. Advantage us at that time.

That is very true.

How often have there been games where one team has been completely outplayed but somehow manages to get a goal and everything suddenly changes?

[hampsteadclaret]

It's OK Tribemen, I had already worked it out when you logged off as soon as I asked you the question.

- hey you can support who you like, I wish the Republic had qualified..

[Tribesmen]

Will you be supporting us Tribesmen, or hoping we get battered?

The Germans for me . I hope England get whipped in all 3 games , hey i'm Irish what else do you want me to say

[WestMidsClaret]

Can we? Yes.
Will we? Will we ****!!

[Tribesmen]

It's OK Tribemen, I had already worked it out when you logged off as soon as I asked you the question.

- hey you can support who you like, I wish the Republic had qualified..

If i am honest i would say it took me a month to get over the Denmark game . Soooooooooooooooo much wanted to go to Russia as the Irish would have had a ball they always do .
So sat at home but going to get ready for the match tonight John O'Shea last game in an Irish shirt i would say we will be lucky if we get 25,000 at it .

[ablueclaret]

Yes.

[Wile E Coyote]

no, England can't win it.

if we cant produce ONE team since 1966 that get's to a final even, then winning it is impossible.
One or two misfiring squads would be understandable of course, but over half a century of failure shows how bad we really are .

[FactualFrank]

Can England get through the group? All it takes is defeat to Belgium (which I'd expect) and then an Icelandic size cockup to finish in 3rd place.

[BleedingClaret]

If we play 442 with Kane & Vardy Yes - But we wont & Kane Will probably break down injury wise
If We Don't Play Pickford in the Nets too - but we likely will
So it's a sad No from me

[South West Claret.]

I do hope no one on here has put money on them.

[Wilsdenclaret]

Don't really care, booked my holidays for while it's on

[JohnMac]

Most of the England squad are average at best and it's refreshing to have someone like Southgate in charge who will give young players a chance. They can do it at lower level and need to ditch the 'We invented the game' attitude at Senior level to progress.

NB - I don't think they will win it in my lifetime (I'm 63).

[RocketLawnChair]

Rubbish. Lampards goal would have made it 2-2 from being 2 down. Advantage us at that time.

If we were that good we’d have come out and equalised again but that second half was a humiliation, the full 12 inches no Vaseline.. we’d been terrible in the tournament in the previous 3 games as well.

[FactualFrank]

If we were that good we’d have come out and equalised again but that second half was a humiliation, the full 12 inches no Vaseline.. we’d been terrible in the tournament in the previous 3 games as well.

And before we scored, we could have been at least 3-0 down. Klose should have put the game to bed well before Lampard's "goal".

[piston broke]

If we were that good we’d have come out and equalised again but that second half was a humiliation, the full 12 inches no Vaseline.. we’d been terrible in the tournament in the previous 3 games as well.

You are not taking human emotions into account at 2-2 you are up and buzzing.
After you've been stiffed by a blind lino you are flat and there for the taking.

[UpTheClaretsFCBK]

Get through the groups and anything can happen in a knock out game.

Look at Greece and Portugal when they won the Euros.

Shed the negativity and back the lads, for once.

[South West Claret.]

No negativity on here just based on evidence from previous years.

[RocketLawnChair]

You are not taking human emotions into account at 2-2 you are up and buzzing.
After you've been stiffed by a blind lino you are flat and there for the taking.

Plenty of teams have goals disallowed and still come back. They murdered us because we were crap. I actually don’t think this Southgate side will get hammered by anybody I just don’t think we have quite enough to succceed in this tournament. I do believe it’s possible we could win a future World Cup in answer to the OPs question.

[South West Claret.]

To conclude on balance I think the no’s have it...close this thread

[piston broke]

I just don’t think we have quite enough to succceed in this tournament. I do believe it’s possible we could win a future World Cup in answer to the OPs question.

We are in total agreement, at last.

[Devils_Advocate]

Will never win it as long as Burnley players are in the squad. We all know FIFA hates Burnley as much as everyone else in the game does and will never allow it to happen #NoOneLikesUs

[South West Claret.]

OK you lot come on admit it who has actually put real money on England to win the WK?

So after today’s lacklustre performance can we all agree that England will not repeat not win the WK?

[RocketLawnChair]

OK you lot come on admit it who has actually put real money on England to win the WK?

So after today’s lacklustre performance can we all agree that England will not repeat not win the WK?

Has anybody said we will actually win this World Cup? The clue in the OP question is the word again.

[DefourFiveSix]

Not win it, no. I imagine we'll get eliminated by the first alright team we play as per. Maybe Colombia if we get through the group stage.
I wouldn't fancy us in a knockout game against Germany, France, Spain, Portugal, Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Colombia, Belgium or Croatia. The second "band" of teams a la Mexico/Poland/Serbia/Switzerland are more than a match for us. So First Knockout Round is probably our level.
The good thing now is I think most knowledgeable football fans have accepted we aren't a major force and never really were in recent history. I think Southgate is doing a decent job and is open to new ideas, especially given he knows a lot of the younger players from his U21 days and gives them a chance (not to mention his season ticket he has at the Turf).
On a more positive note: we have a lot of pace in attack (Sterling, Rashford, Alli, Lingard), an arguably world class striker in Kane and fantastic delivery from two wing backs (Tripps & Young). That's enough to cause teams problems. Unfortunately we're a midfielder, centre half and decent goalie short of doing anything but at least we can watch it not expecting too much and then you never know.

[South West Claret.]

Has anybody said we will actually win this World Cup? The clue in the OP question is the word again.

Two questions asked and none answered.

[Claretlad]

Is that the same ...

[Billy Balfour]

I'll be happy enough if they get through the group stage. Anything else is a bonus. As you can see, I have high expectations.