England vs Nigeria

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:39 am

Thought I'd a create a thread also for those who like to come onto an England game thread to say they won't be watching the England game and have no interest in friendlies.

Expected team according to the papers:
Butland, Walker, Cahill, Stones, Alexander-Arnold, Dier, Lingard, Loftus-Cheek, Young, Sterling, Kane

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:47 am

I hope that pope will get a bloody game today!!

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:57 am

Not far off the starting line up at the world cup that. I reckon Trippier or Arnold and Ali or Lingard are the two shirts up for grabs with the problem position to sort of who plays alongside Dier in the middle to give us that creative spark

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:08 am

FactualFrank wrote:Thought I'd a create a thread also for those who like to come onto an England game thread to say they won't be watching the England game and have no interest in friendlies.

I'll come on and say I won't be watching. To be honest, I find watching England boring and only show a real interest if there is a likelihood of a Burnley player being involved. Given Butland is likely to play with Pickford considered first choice, I'm not expecting Pope to play in either of the warm up games.

Will I be watching? No - but that's only because I'll be out.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:12 am

I'll definitely be watching. Got football withdrawal symptons already. And gets me into World Cup mood ahead of it starting, which I'm really looking forward to.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:17 am

I’ll be watching

But only to see Nigerias snazzy new kit

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:18 am

Pope won’t go to Russia without a cap, so he’ll be coming on tonight or next week.
Henderson will start at the World Cup for Dier and deservedly so.
Shame we haven’t got a better left sider than Young. For a former winger he doesn’t deliver much but I hope to be proved wrong.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:22 am

wilks_bfc wrote:I’ll be watching

But only to see Nigerias snazzy new kit

And before someone asks...NO. It wouldn’t look good in claret and blue...

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:28 am

piston broke wrote:Pope won’t go to Russia without a cap, so he’ll be coming on tonight or next week.
Henderson will start at the World Cup for Dier and deservedly so.
Shame we haven’t got a better left sider than Young. For a former winger he doesn’t deliver much but I hope to be proved wrong.

I think Young can deliver very well, but only on his right foot. Which means he has to cut back onto his right before curling one in. I've seen him do some absolutely superb crosses, however perhaps a tad predictable.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:06 pm

Followed by Rep. Of Ireland v USA 8pm. Walters, Hendrick, Long?
followed by Iceland v Norway 9pm. JBG?

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:09 pm

england should win comfortably

they wont

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:34 pm

i have no faith in a manager who fails to see pope as first choice, might appear biased, but its not. Pope is unquestionably the best, and his form shows this to be the case. Southgate is an idiot if he and his staff fail to recognise that.
I will be watching it .

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:40 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:i have no faith in a manager who fails to see pope as first choice, might appear biased, but its not. Pope is unquestionably the best, and his form shows this to be the case. Southgate is an idiot if he and his staff fail to recognise that.
I will be watching it .

Definitely appears biased. It's not a straightforward call for Southgate. Pope has been brilliant for us but his weakness with his feet has to be taken into account by Southgate. To be fair he has tried to assemble his squad based on form and it's right that Pope is in it.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:42 pm

Might catch the 2nd half, depending what time Kick Off is.

England games have got slightly better recently, hopefully they won't go back to the slow, mundane football with 2 defensive midfielders against a team we should really be brushing aside with relative ease.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:47 pm

ENGLAND -1 (AH) v Nigeria
Kenya v NEW ZEALAND (Draw No Bet)
Latvia v ESTONIA (Draw No Bet)

£20 for £122

Edit: Just realised New Zealand have a non of their first 11 players available, where the hell is Wood when you need him? RIP £20

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:50 pm

taio wrote:Definitely appears biased. It's not a straightforward call for Southgate. Pope has been brilliant for us but his weakness with his feet has to be taken into account by Southgate. To be fair he has tried to assemble his squad based on form and it's right that Pope is in it.

Im not suggesting pope is perfect, no player is, but the feet thing you refer to has me slightly baffled.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:55 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:Im not suggesting pope is perfect, no player is, but the feet thing you refer to has me slightly baffled.

It was obvious last season that his kicking is the area he needs to improve most.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:00 pm

perhaps taio, but by comparison to the other keepers he's miles better overall in my opinion.

whiffa · Post by **whiffa** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:15 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:perhaps taio, but by comparison to the other keepers he's miles better overall in my opinion.

As a shot stopper he's as good as any of them - watching Butland at Stoke we saw just how brilliantly he can play the ball out with his feet.

The style of play Southgate is hoping we play I assume.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:43 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:perhaps taio, but by comparison to the other keepers he's miles better overall in my opinion.

His kicking of a stationary ball is very good. It's his control and kicking of a moving ball that is poor by post Pep standards. 10 years ago nobody would have commented on it, now it's the flavour of the month.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:56 pm

Team not yet announced, so let's hope for Pope. If either of the other 2 playing...injury and bring in Tom! So cruel!

Let'sChaseTheDragon · Post by **Let'sChaseTheDragon** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:01 pm

taio wrote:Definitely appears biased. It's not a straightforward call for Southgate. Pope has been brilliant for us but his weakness with his feet has to be taken into account by Southgate. To be fair he has tried to assemble his squad based on form and it's right that Pope is in it.

As Taio says. Very biased.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:04 pm

I hope he gets a game at some point, then we can stick and extra 15 million on his value as a full international

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:17 pm

Popes distribution is non existent. Those who say a GK is just there to stop it going in are wrong. They play a key role in starting attacks. You can’t give the ball away time and time again at this level. Especially against world class opposition.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:18 pm

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:27 pm

Like the idea he might go in the early games against the weaker sides with only one holding midfield player and 3 attacking players behind Kane

Shappie · Post by **Shappie** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:28 pm

bobinho wrote:And before someone asks...NO. It wouldn’t look good in claret and blue...

I was just wondering that too!!!

Foulthrow · Post by **Foulthrow** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:28 pm

Two Burnley keepers on the bench. Odd.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:29 pm

not much height in that team

Foulthrow · Post by **Foulthrow** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:30 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Thought I'd a create a thread also for those who like to come onto an England game thread to say they won't be watching the England game and have no interest in friendlies.

Expected team according to the papers:
Butland, Walker, Cahill, Stones, Alexander-Arnold, Dier, Lingard, Loftus-Cheek, Young, Sterling, Kane

I won’t be watching the England game and have no interest in friendlies.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:31 pm

Not sure height is that important at International football. Pace, composure and a balance of skill and strength are more important qualities for me

BigChaCha · Post by **BigChaCha** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:40 pm

Jesus, that team! .....and I thought having to endure Carlton Palmer on the international stage was a low point!

I just don't understand how a country with our population and player base can not produce any world class players. I'd be happy with just one world class player right now and I can't remember the last time I was excited to see an England player in action!

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:46 pm

BigChaCha wrote:and I can't remember the last time I was excited to see an England player in action!

JT...

that's the Burnley defender!

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:49 pm

piston broke wrote:Followed by Rep. Of Ireland v USA 8pm. Walters, Hendrick, Long?
followed by Iceland v Norway 9pm. JBG?

Long is out

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:52 pm

Foulthrow wrote:Two Burnley keepers on the bench. Odd.

Be a good quiz question in years too come

Rayaforspain1875 · Post by **Rayaforspain1875** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:53 pm

I think that's a really threatening line up.. No Burnley players though, so it must be rubbish..

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:59 pm

I’m hoping Trippier scores

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:04 pm

Foulthrow wrote:Two Burnley keepers on the bench. Odd.

BBC: "On the bench there are three keepers - Tom Heaton, Nick Pope and Jack Butland."

OK. I think the BBC have got their order wrong. Still very impressive that Burnley is represented by 2 goalkeepers in a Squad of 23 + 1 reserve.

But for Tom's injury... who knows, he might have been England's starter. There again, none of us would have known how great Nick Pope also is.

However Sean Dyche resolves things with both Tom and Nick - and I'd love them both to stay through this coming season - it's tremendous achievement by Burnley.

UTC

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:10 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Long is out

Shane Long is, I haven’t read anything to save Kevin is out.

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:11 pm

Why the black armbands?

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:13 pm

In Our Lancashire Homes. We speak with an accent exceedingly rare.

The longside of Burnley will always be there.

If you want an England keeper, we've got one to spare. In our Lancashire Homes.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:15 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:Why the black armbands?

We love the black armband!

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:18 pm

all 10 outfield players come from the top 5 clubs. Is this favoritism and bias to the big teams or is it because the big teams can afford and attract all the best English players

I reckon its the latter but it seems to irk a lot on here who firmly believe its the former

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:20 pm

Alli getting booed with every touch from Nigerian fans

Sounded that loud I thought it was the England fans doing it

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:21 pm

Ouch!

Ref needs to wake up

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:21 pm

Alli getting a lot of stick - from the Nigerians

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:21 pm

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:22 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote:Alli getting a lot of stick - from the Nigerians

'Racists'

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:23 pm

superb to see Tripps playing for England

and an assist

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:24 pm

Get in