Muggings by Moped Riders

[Chip Harrison]

On the news again today. Thefts and assaults on pedestrians by muggers on mopeds are rocketing in London.

I just can't see this ever becoming a major problem in the north, as I am sure victims would put up more of a fight? Sometimes it will be difficult to resist, but I haven't seen any cases of a victim catching a thief.

Was it Manchester where passers by caught some guys on mopeds who had robbed a jewellers?

[cutsy123]

Knock em off at any opportunity

[LeadBelly]

It's difficult to chase them over the gold-paved streets , that's why.
I saw a figure the other day that the police were called to an average of 430 such crimes per week (22,000+ in the year).
They are putting more measures in place to crack down now but it always seems to take too long for "authorities" to see the adverse trends and do something to counteract them.

[AlargeClaret]

They pick relatively easy targets , kids /teens /students /women etc .That said the sheer brutality and shock factor of a powerful man attacking you at speed with a weapon and his mate then joins in can briefly disable most people before they know what’s hit them .

The old 2 big black men with a machete number has also been a common modus in the capital for years too for car theft etc , a lot more fear factor than a gun too.

[AlargeClaret]

[quote="LeadBelly"]It's difficult to chase them over the gold-paved streets “


Lol!

[aggi]

The people of the North are famously acid-resistant, that's why they do so much better against Aliens.

Was it Manchester where passers by caught some guys on mopeds who had robbed a jewellers? Erm, London https://metro.co.uk/2018/06/05/armed-mo ... y-7606801/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[ClaretDiver]

I have seen a report where a top Met officer suggest that the rules are relaxed for officers chasing the mopeds. Currently if the riders remove their helmets then the officers have to stand down as it is deemed too dangerous and the officer could open themselves up to action should something happen.

[Funkydrummer]

I know very little about motorbikes/mopeds/scooters etc, but I do know that the
bike in the link at post 6 is not a moped as I understand a moped to look like.

[kentonclaret]

Muggings by moped robbers, stabbings and the increasing violent crime in London was this week front page news in both the Daily Mail and the Daily Express.

When Donald Trump tweets on the subject everybody throws their hands in the air proclaiming "Where on earth did he get that impression".

When Donald Trump tweeted recently about stabbings in London and blood on the floor of London hospitals it followed on from a story in the Daily Mail a few days earlier with almost identical wording.

[deanothedino]

Muggings by moped robbers, stabbings and the increasing violent crime in London was this week front page news in both the Daily Mail and the Daily Express.

When Donald Trump tweets on the subject everybody throws their hands in the air proclaiming "Where on earth did he get that impression".

When Donald Trump tweeted recently about stabbings in London and blood on the floor of London hospitals it followed on from a story in the Daily Mail a few days earlier with almost identical wording.

Mail Online is incredibly popular in the States, more likely he gets his awful UK opinions from there than the paper.

[Quicknick]

On the news again today. Thefts and assaults on pedestrians by muggers on mopeds are rocketing in London.

I just can't see this ever becoming a major problem in the north, as I am sure victims would put up more of a fight? Sometimes it will be difficult to resist, but I haven't seen any cases of a victim catching a thief.

Was it Manchester where passers by caught some guys on mopeds who had robbed a jewellers?

Why would people up north put up more of a fight? Soft south? You obviously haven't lived there. If they tried mugging a working-class bloke in Tottenham or Walthamstow or somewhere, they have a fight on their hands.

[piston broke]

This has been going on in Italy since the early 90s. Same rules; keep any bag on the inside and preferably over shoulder and under arm, use your phone in your inside hand. Be alert AT ALL TIMES.

[Funkydrummer]

This is how to deal with these sh!tbags.

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[basil6345789]

Any details of the crimals? Ages, backgrounds, etc.

[Imploding Turtle]

The only way to stop a bad guy with a moped is a good guy with a moped.

[duncandisorderly]

'Whatever is the world coming to?', he moped.

[Foulthrow]

The only way to stop a bad guy with a moped is a good guy with a moped.

An actual genuine LOL. Well played, sir, well played.

[Sausage]

It's easy pickings in London. People seem to be zombified by their mobile phones, bumbling along the streets, oblivious to their surroundings and walking into people or just suddenly stopping stone dead at the top of an escalator while they tap out a really important WhatsApp. I'm not saying they deserve to be mugged but, you know...

[KRBFC]

As Turtle said, pretty much impossible to stop them given the places moped's can go where a police car couldn't, I don't even think more police motorcycles could even help given the swift fast nature of these crimes.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Michael McIntyre was attacked on his way home after picking his son up from School and had his £15k watch stolen.

[kentonclaret]

A moped gang, that robbed Watches of Switzerland in London's Regent Street just 2 days ago, was tackled by 4 members of the public who apprehended one of the robbers and handed them over to police.

London is obviously a target for robbers with luxury stores selling watches and handbags and millionaires dropping off their children at school wearing £15k watches.

[houseboy]

The only way to stop a bad guy with a moped is a good guy with a moped.

Carry a piece of 3 by 2, not many people pass that test, especially on a speeding bike.

[hampsteadclaret]

A couple of ideas worth trying [not my ideas]...will both need changes in the law, which should be easy enough to do.

Firstly..ban pillion riders in urban areas...one person one bike. Might prove problematic for some [tough]..won't affect those who earn their living on a bike/moped such as couriers.

Secondly..get the bike registration clearly on the back of the biker's leathers - this will make identification easier of these criminals - if there is no registration on the back of the jacket, then they get stopped.

** post 7 above is also very relevant.

These are not perfect solutions, but these little scrotes need to be stopped as they are giving everyone the run-around at the moment.

[Colburn_Claret]

It's difficult to chase them over the gold-paved streets , that's why.
I saw a figure the other day that the police were called to an average of 430 such crimes per week (22,000+ in the year).
They are putting more measures in place to crack down now but it always seems to take too long for "authorities" to see the adverse trends and do something to counteract them.

Similar stats could be claimed in any major town. I had a brick thrown through my car window a few years ago. When the police finally got there, they informed me there were only 2 cars on duty, to deal with a couple of hundred calls a night.
With the police so stretched it's time to legalise vigilantism. The public should drag them off their bikes, and kick the living **** out of them, in the knowledge that all the police are going to do is say well done.

[bfcjg]

The problem is there is no deterrent at the moment that they are frightened off. The offenders typically drive to a highly populated area so the police won't chase them and if they did they would upset "da communitee "

[CombatClaret]

I have seen a report where a top Met officer suggest that the rules are relaxed for officers chasing the mopeds. Currently if the riders remove their helmets then the officers have to stand down as it is deemed too dangerous and the officer could open themselves up to action should something happen.

Changes being enacted. The helmet thing is a myth and was never police guideline/procedure but was widely reported in the Mirror/Mail.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... suit-rules" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Another key reason mopeds are being used in more crime is that the mopeds themselves are comparatively easy to steal and there's been a sudden increase in the numbers available due to Deliveroo, Ubereats etc appearing.

[Lauren12]

Clearly the Police can't easily chase moped drivers around narrow back lanes/ heavily populated areas/ roads congested with traffic; even when they have done and it's ended badly for the person being pursued (as in, they've died in an accident, even though that individual chose not to stop), the Police have come in for huge criticism for being over zealous in their pursuit. Whatever next, I mean how dare the Police chase after someone suspected of committing violent crime? Damned if they do, damned if they don't. And the criminals know this all too well.

[JohnMac]

Kids running wild, running drugs on bicycles, muggings, stabbings and shootings but bless it's not their fault, it's because of their social environment innit.

[ClaretAndJew]

Kill everyone and stop these things happening.

[cricketfieldclarets]

It's easy pickings in London. People seem to be zombified by their mobile phones, bumbling along the streets, oblivious to their surroundings and walking into people or just suddenly stopping stone dead at the top of an escalator while they tap out a really important WhatsApp. I'm not saying they deserve to be mugged but, you know...

I was going to post this word for word. Its not just london though its everywhere.

Yesterday on the canal path some woman pushing a pram avoided sleepwalking into the canal only because I came past on the bike and she jumped (nearly into me)

Its frightening how many people just have their head buried into snapchat crossing roads, walking down the street etc

[CombatClaret]

Kids running wild, running drugs on bicycles, muggings, stabbings and shootings but bless it's not their fault, it's because of their social environment innit.

Humans are all the same species with the power of free will, but what makes Finland so safe and Mexico so dangerous? Social & economic circumstances.

[bfcjg]

Surely though in a modern European cosmopolitan capital city ot any town or city for that matter you should be able to walk carefree and openly be able to use your phone ?
No deterrents.

[ClaretAndJew]

Surely though in a modern European cosmopolitan capital city ot any town or city for that matter you should be able to walk carefree and openly be able to use your phone ?
No deterrents.

You are, except in extremely unlikely scenarios.

[CombatClaret]

You are, except in extremely unlikely scenarios.

Easy targets for mopped criminals, these people walking around, heads down distracted by the Daily Mail headline.

[Imploding Turtle]

You are, except in extremely unlikely scenarios.

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[CombatClaret]

The view from my Peckham flat window.

[ClaretAndJew]

I can no longer think of the UK without thinking Unbelievable Krimewave

[Damo]

Whenever I feel slightly concerned about violent crime, I always remind myself that the consequences of it are far less serious than being offended by a story in a newspaper that I don't read

[Imploding Turtle]

Just because you don't habitually read news publications that routinely spreat lies misinformation and provoke fear and hatred doesn't mean you have to stay silent on what it is they're doing.

But if you think that talking about it means we're offended by it then i think you have much bigger problems.