Trump n Kim..

Japebe43 · Post by **Japebe43** » Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:45 pm

Sounds like its going well..

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:28 pm

I’m suspecting this is all so Trump can be awarded a Nobel Peace Prize in 3 months time.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:34 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:I’m suspecting this is all so Trump can be awarded a Nobel Peace Prize in 3 months time.

Would be funny if they gave it to Kim instead.

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:41 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Would be funny if they gave it to Kim instead.

They will probably give it to both of them. Trump will reluctantly accept that. It’s about having the Nobel Peace Prize because Obama got one.

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Mon Jun 11, 2018 9:03 pm

Kim only has to flatter Trump and Trump will rollover. I really hope I'm very, very wrong, but I fear the only winners here will be Kim and China.

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:11 pm

There’s probably going to be a short term agreement that’s great PR for both leaders. But long term?

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:58 pm

Kim won't give up his nuclear arsenal without something in return,so hopefully Donald has goodies to tempt him,also i can't see North Korea leaving their-selves vulnerable to attack from South Korea or any other forces,Kim already has a moral victory just by this meeting taking place whatever happens arguably Trump has more to lose.For the sake of other countries let's hope some progress is made i have doubts sadly of lasting peace.

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:46 am

If Trump were to win the Nobel Peace Prize, would this affect Turtle's efforts to get him impeached and removed from power?

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:47 am

It's funny how these alt-left titheads would rather nuclear war than conceeding to donald trump.

Mind you, they'd gladly wish anyone on a six figure salary paying taxes to be on the dole so they didn't have a fiver more than them!

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 1:06 am

Remember, Trump supports the NRA, a terrorist organisation.

HunterST_BFC · Post by **HunterST_BFC** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:13 am

Weird hairdos rule the world.

Boris next?

hampsteadclaret · Post by **hampsteadclaret** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:30 am

Mel n Kim...go for it

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Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:00 am

starting_11 wrote:It's funny how these alt-left titheads would rather nuclear war than conceeding to donald trump.

Mind you, they'd gladly wish anyone on a six figure salary paying taxes to be on the dole so they didn't have a fiver more than them!

How many people have you found that would prefer a nuclear war?

HatfieldClaret · Post by **HatfieldClaret** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:04 am

Bordeauxclaret wrote:How many people have you found that would prefer a nuclear war?

Kenny Everett, he wanted to bomb Russia and that's a fact.

mikeS · Post by **mikeS** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:20 am

Should give them both the Nobel p*ss prize. All over their smug stupid heads.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:48 am

Has he been impeached yet?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:18 am

Stolen unashamedly from twitter

"Fitting that our generation’s nuclear threat is a fat man and little boy."

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:32 am

Essentially they’re toddlers, so I think it’s nice they’re playing well together. But you know they’ll be fighting and crying before bedtime.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:55 am

Vino blanco wrote:If Trump were to win the Nobel Peace Prize, would this affect Turtle's efforts to get him impeached and removed from power?

You can mock me all you want for wanting him removed, but i'm the one not in denial of his blatant corruption. His voters, and fans like you, wanted to put him in power to "drain the swamp" yet he is far more corrupt than probably even Nixon. People like me were warning people like you before he was elected. So yes, i want him removed, but i enjoy that i get to laugh in your face at just how easily and completely he is making a fool of his voters and supporters.

And i'll laugh in your faces again when he is removed.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:56 am

starting_11 wrote:It's funny how these alt-left titheads would rather nuclear war than conceeding to donald trump.

Mind you, they'd gladly wish anyone on a six figure salary paying taxes to be on the dole so they didn't have a fiver more than them!

Just making **** up now, aren't you?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:00 am

LoveCurryPies wrote:There’s probably going to be a short term agreement that’s great PR for both leaders. But long term?

Should be easy enough for Trump to get a deal. He'll give away the farm if it means he and his family can get a nice little business deal, like they did with China.

What was it - a $500 million loan for Ivanka and a bunch of trademarks in exchange for lifting sanctions on ZTE? That's a pretty sweet deal.

Socrates · Post by **Socrates** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:03 am

starting_11 wrote:It's funny how these alt-left titheads would rather nuclear war than conceeding to donald trump.

What?

People said they’d rather have a nuclear war than conceeding (sic.) to Donald Trump?

I don’t know what “conceeding” is, but it must be pretty bad if people would prefer a nuclear war.

Who said this anyway? I must have missed it.

Dom · Post by **Dom** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:21 am

Fair play for getting them together in the first place, whether anything positive comes of it is yet to be seen but it's a step in the right direction. Issue with Trump is he's one tweet away from undoing any good work because he's a man child who can't seemingly behave like an adult for any long period of time.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:53 am

I've been listening to his press conference

So far he's given away that he knows full well were all North Korea nuclear facilities are because "our satellites are so good" and he's said that North Korea has effectively agreed to de-nuclearisation.

Good news they have met, but he's sounded far too triumphant far too early to be honest.

But again, good news that they have met.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:57 am

Trump is a deeply unpleasant individual but his style has brought a new dynamic to the World order. On certain issues what he says has more than a grain of truth, because one doesn’t like the man does not mean that from time to time his style might not be effective.
If only he had the same capacity in the Middle East.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:00 am

The bed wetters are absolutely fuming today

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:03 am

WTF is a "bedwetter"?

You lot have got so many names for people who don't agree with you that I'm struggling to keep up!

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:04 am

How long does VX take to kick in?

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:05 am

Ruffling feathers and shaking up complacent thinking is no bad thing, at present he is really the only player on the block. Too many other politicians hiding behind western values and not putting forward equally forceable cases.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:07 am

He's the only person in the West who can be forceful though, because he's got the weaponry, the infrastructure and much more importantly, is enough of a wild card so that no one knows if he'll actually cause a global nuclear war.

I'd hate to call his bluff, cos he strikes me as the type who'd press the button to avoid having to be seen to have backed down.

Lauren12 · Post by **Lauren12** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:16 am

For some reason, I have an image in my (some might say empty) head of them thrashing this deal out in the kiddies ball pit of the local wacky warehouse before retiring to have one of those 'all you can eat' ice cream type desserts compete with sprinkles, marshmallows and a flake on top with Trump whinging to his bodyguards 'it's not fair' cos Kim's got more than him.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:16 am

He is potentially dangerous but his bellicose ramblings belie a soft underbelly.
Trump is in it for money and personal attention so being blown up really doesn’t come into the equation.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:35 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:How long does VX take to kick in?

Seconds, if tv and movies is to be believed. But it's probably much longer. Minutes to hours depending on dosage, i'd imagine. And it'd also matter how contact was made.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:04 am

Sounds like he's annoyed South Korea with Trump's announcement that they're intending to end US/SK military exercises without gaining any concessions from NK.

Guich · Post by **Guich** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:14 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:You can mock me all you want for wanting him removed, but i'm the one not in denial of his blatant corruption. His voters, and fans like you, wanted to put him in power to "drain the swamp" yet he is far more corrupt than probably even Nixon. People like me were warning people like you before he was elected. So yes, i want him removed, but i enjoy that i get to laugh in your face at just how easily and completely he is making a fool of his voters and supporters.

And i'll laugh in your faces again when he is removed.

I love this post - and great to read it in the voice of a deranged Bond villain then cackle at the end. Not that I'm saying you're deranged btw IT, just that your post is a superb, classy rant.

Isn't one of the points of a message-board that you can't actually do anything in anyone's faces though?

JTClaret · Post by **JTClaret** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 1:01 pm

Over the last couple of years, with Brexit and Trump, the lefties are unbearable and seem to constantly want to cause conflict with an argument about how they are right. You rarely hear the righties actually arguing back, only ever getting shot down for having a different opinion.

Aside from looking like a bit of a moron, and sounding like he's about to upset someone (which apparently will cause a war - imagine that, why did WW3 start? Because Donald Trump tweeted that such-and-such was a fool), I'm yet to see what Trump has done wrong other than being Trump.

I'm just pleased that the balance always swings, because both sides are awful people haha

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 1:19 pm

Spijed wrote:Remember, Trump supports the NRA, a terrorist organisation.

And remember that Kim is a communist tyrant that orders the murder of members of his own family.

Importantly. This deal will really wind up the far left politicos like Owen Jones and his comrades at the BBC.

But more importantly, today, imploding turtles head is deep in the bowels of the turtle bunker and he's a broken non gender specific person thing.!

Result!!

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 1:21 pm

Following the Trump / Kim deal, the BBC has announced it will be broadcasting sombre music as a mark of respect

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:16 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:He's the only person in the West who can be forceful though, because he's got the weaponry, the infrastructure and much more importantly, is enough of a wild card so that no one knows if he'll actually cause a global nuclear war.

I'd hate to call his bluff, cos he strikes me as the type who'd press the button to avoid having to be seen to have backed down.

If his opponents think he is capable of going the whole hog,it may make them think twice,which in diplomacy can have benefits,it is a risky strategy though.Purely the fact that the USA and North Korea are communicating is promising in itself,of course actions speak louder than words,South Korea also has an important role in not destabilising the region,and the big player China is very quiet ATM.

Follow up meetings are in the works so more details should emerge over the coming months,it is noticeable that sanctions still remain in place for the moment,an end to the Korean conflict is now possible when just months ago a military escalation seemed inevitable,for the sake of both nations let's hope the end comes sooner or later.

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:23 pm

Trump. Pulled off the biggest political coup of the Century? Possibly. Tweeting or not he is a true patriot as all politicians should be. Unlike that old goat Codbyn. If it's not good for Amierica it's out. If it is good it's in.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:40 pm

Stayingup wrote:Trump. Pulled off the biggest political coup of the Century? Possibly. Tweeting or not he is a true patriot as all politicians should be. Unlike that old goat Codbyn. If it's not good for Amierica it's out. If it is good it's in.

The treasonous, anti democratic, Remoaner rats on the Tory and Liebour parties, could learn a lesson from him.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:41 pm

Its funny in the press conference.

All the asian press are being very respectful and congratulatory to Trump where as all the American/British press are just putting in sly dig after sly dig. I genuinely think they and the wider left in general desperately hope for him to fail in his quest to bring peace to that region of the world.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:51 pm

Stayingup wrote:Trump. Pulled off the biggest political coup of the Century? Possibly. Tweeting or not he is a true patriot as all politicians should be. Unlike that old goat Codbyn. If it's not good for Amierica it's out. If it is good it's in.

No.

This is the President that wanted to get rid of free health care for Americans as he pandered to the big pharmaceutical companies.
This is also the president that after listening to the harrowing tales of students, whose friends had been slaughtered in another mass shooting, told delegates at the NRA conference that they would never have to give up their guns, regardless of how many deaths.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:57 pm

Spijed wrote:No.

This is the President that wanted to get rid of free health care for Americans as he pandered to the big pharmaceutical companies.
This is also the president that after listening to the harrowing tales of students, whose friends had been slaughtered in another mass shooting, told delegates at the NRA conference that they would never have to give up their guns, regardless of how many deaths.

So basically, socialised healthcare and changing a 300 year old amendment is more important to you than the nuclear disarming and potential modernising of a hostile country that has one of the worst human rights records on earth.

LongsideFacingUp · Post by **LongsideFacingUp** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:57 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:And i'll laugh in your faces again when he is removed.

Don't mind me, just making this easier to find for later.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:59 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Seconds, if tv and movies is to be believed. But it's probably much longer. Minutes to hours depending on dosage, i'd imagine. And it'd also matter how contact was made.

The clue is in the name V-X

5-10. Whether that's seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, years, decades, centuries, millennia, ages, epochs, periods, eras, or eons, I couldn't say.

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:21 pm

Spijed wrote:No.

This is the President that wanted to get rid of free health care for Americans as he pandered to the big pharmaceutical companies.
This is also the president that after listening to the harrowing tales of students, whose friends had been slaughtered in another mass shooting, told delegates at the NRA conference that they would never have to give up their guns, regardless of how many deaths.

He's America first. Enough for me. Gun laws won't be changed.

They weren't under the wet Obama were they? So what are you on about? Ever been to the USA ? If you had you might just understand this issue better.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:22 pm

Stayingup wrote:He's America first. Enough for me. Gun laws won't be changed.

They weren't under the wet Obama were they? So what are you on about? Ever been to the USA ? If you had you might just understand this issue better.

What wasn't under Obama?

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:26 pm

Stayingup wrote:He's America first. Enough for me.

That's fine but it puts to bed this idea that in his words "Great UK trade deal", doesn't it?

How can we get a great deal if he's saying America first?

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:34 pm

Spijed wrote:That's fine but it puts to bed this idea that in his words "Great UK trade deal", doesn't it?

How can we get a great deal if he's saying America first?

He’s putting Trump first.