ARTICLE: Clarets make move for West Brom pair

Long Time Lurker · Post by **Long Time Lurker** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:24 pm

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... ig-dawson/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"Dawson is a target for a number of Premier League clubs and West Ham have seen an opening offer rejected, with Albion understood to be rating the 28-year-old at more than £20 million."

"West Brom are making changes to their recruitment structure after informing their technical consultant, Giuliano Terraneo, he will not be fully involved with transfer deals, amid suggestions of disagreements with players and rival clubs."

"Many Premier League clubs have been in contact with Terraneo over signing Albion players but have been left frustrated over valuations."

This is turning into something of a bizzare circus show. I'm beginning to feel a bit embarrassed for WBA.

If we wanted to receive ridiculous demands we could have gone to West Ham and enquired about Declan Rice.

lrac · Post by **lrac** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:31 pm

For them prices w b a can keep both .40 mill no way

CFS · Post by **CFS** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:15 pm

Move on to notts forest.

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:19 pm

Funkydrummer wrote:Why don't we just leave West Brom alone to dig themselves out of the sh!te that they are in ?

I like the club in general , but their dealings in the transfer market when selling, to us anyway, are dreadful.

Let them stew in their own muck, the awkward b@stards.

I repeat - I repeat - I repeat - I repeat etc.

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:26 pm

£20m? Hahahaha. Tell 'em where to go and move on. Time we stopped ******* around with WBA. Not the first time they've acted the ****.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:33 am

A long way from the £1.5m we almost paid for his services.

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 7:34 am

Dont like to see it, but time for them to force West Brom's hand if they want a move it seems

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 7:52 am

Dawson is submitting a transfer request today according to BBC sports site

Long Time Lurker · Post by **Long Time Lurker** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:19 am

Deja Vu

https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/fo ... r-request/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If he does, then we can hope it is in line with sincere desire to depart this time and not just a bargaining chip for a new contract that will restore his wages to their PL level.

Even with a sincere request it might not stop WBA insisting on silly money for him. A Good player, but a club record fee for a player who will probably spend a lot of time on the bench if Mee stays is a bit much, especially when you take into account the comments made here about the importance of playing.

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:06 am

We know there's no point in dealing with WBA. We've been through this before. They'll try to bleed every last penny from a transfer fee, which is their right, but it can mean you waste a lot of time trying to agree a fee that will just keep rising. Move on, let them stew and go back once the players have handed in transfer requests, because that's what Dawson and Jay need to do if they want a move. At that point our £25m won't look too bad.

I'd rather we shift our focus to Worrall at Forest. If we could get him for around £10m he'd be a good investment for us. From what I've seen of him, including being at the City Ground for a match last season, he looks to have excellent attributes for a CB of his age and Dyche could mould him into the next Keane or Tarky.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:22 am

jlup1980 wrote:We know there's no point in dealing with WBA. We've been through this before. They'll try to bleed every last penny from a transfer fee, which is their right, but it can mean you waste a lot of time trying to agree a fee that will just keep rising. Move on, let them stew and go back once the players have handed in transfer requests, because that's what Dawson and Jay need to do if they want a move. At that point our £25m won't look too bad.

I'd rather we shift our focus to Worrall at Forest. If we could get him for around £10m he'd be a good investment for us. From what I've seen of him, including being at the City Ground for a match last season, he looks to have excellent attributes for a CB of his age and Dyche could mould him into the next Keane or Tarky.

I don't know how good Worrall is, but Forrest seem to be taking the same path as Wolves. Mendes is on board getting them Portuguese players on loan, players they couldn't afford to buy but somehow are willing to drop into the championship. Mendes must be making a fortune through all these deals, with probably a massive bonus to himself should promotion be achieved. Point is, if this is the case Worral might not be wanted anymore considering he ain't Portuguese.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:12 am

If Mee was to leave, would Worrall be able to step up to this level - I doubt it

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:49 am

jojomk1 wrote:If Mee was to leave, would Worrall be able to step up to this level - I doubt it

Yep would be a massive risk considering he has never played outside of the championship - and actually never played for a championship side who has had a half decent season. I can’t remember anyone raving about his performances last season either.

You could say Tarks at Brentford was similar - but we got him as an understudy for only £3m. Forest reportedly wanted £20m for him in January - which is ridiculous for what he has done.
If both Dawson and Worrall are going to cost £20m we should go for Dawson....or more probably look elsewhere as neither is worth that.

Zesty · Post by **Zesty** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:32 am

West Ham are 1/7 to sign Dawson on skybet

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:39 am

Zesty wrote:West Ham are 1/7 to sign Dawson on skybet

Someone must've put a tenner on it.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:43 pm

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... -refusing/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; west brom are set to discipline ben foster and craig dawson for refusing to fly out to west broms training camp . Sounds like both are trying to force through moves

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:44 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Someone must've put a tenner on it.

West Ham have bid for him though, been rejected.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:49 pm

Unfortunately if West Ham are in for Dawson we won't be able to compete with them financially, unless he wants to move back to the north west.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:59 pm

Nixon comments....

Alan Nixon
‏

@reluctantnicko
24m24 minutes ago
More Alan Nixon Retweeted TalkWBA
Stubborn club meets stubborn club. And people expect updates? Like commentating on a derby for snails.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:00 am

Another Nixon comment basically saying we have nothing else planned, looks like a long wait for any transfer news....

Alan Nixon
‏

@reluctantnicko
43m43 minutes ago
More Alan Nixon Retweeted Andy Dewhurst
Dyche doesn’t budge much. It’s a strength. But also a weakness.

CFS · Post by **CFS** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:11 am

Think that implies that he knows Nowt,zilch,nuffink.

ClaretCliff · Post by **ClaretCliff** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:23 am

KRBFC wrote:Another Nixon comment basically saying we have nothing else planned, looks like a long wait for any transfer news....

Alan Nixon
‏

@reluctantnicko
43m43 minutes ago
More Alan Nixon Retweeted Andy Dewhurst
Dyche doesn’t budge much. It’s a strength. But also a weakness.

I've come on here for the first time today and the first thing I read was a thread you started about Nixons comments on this. I then look at this thread and see you repeat yourself with two posts on the same thing. It's always a he same with you KRBFC - any excuse to have a dig at Dyche or the club. You really are a boring tw*t.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:53 am

ClaretCliff wrote:I've come on here for the first time today and the first thing I read was a thread you started about Nixons comments on this. I then look at this thread and see you repeat yourself with two posts on the same thing. It's always a he same with you KRBFC - any excuse to have a dig at Dyche or the club. You really are a boring tw*t.

Why am I digging at Dyche or the club? I said it looks to be a while before any transfer news.... I'm just reporting what Nixon said because many believe everything he says about us.

Dano1bfc · Post by **Dano1bfc** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:02 am

Krbfc... I don’t post often but I read daily . Iv got to say if u didn’t mean to be negative this time fair enough . Your posts do almost always appear less than optimistic tho ... if u can’t enjoy this then I fear for you when the wheels of fate inevitably swing against us again and our only attacking threat / goalkeeper off the bench is mark monington! Stoke away is still surreal to this day ... but still can’t decide if it beats John Spicer at Luton lol

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:21 am

Dano1bfc wrote:Krbfc... I don’t post often but I read daily . Iv got to say if u didn’t mean to be negative this time fair enough . Your posts do almost always appear less than optimistic tho ... if u can’t enjoy this then I fear for you when the wheels of fate inevitably swing against us again and our only attacking threat / goalkeeper off the bench is mark monington! Stoke away is still surreal to this day ... but still can’t decide if it beats John Spicer at Luton lol

I don't understand why people think I don't enjoy it, I enjoy our rise as much as anyone other Burnley fan would. How was I possibly negative because I re posted what Nixon said about our transfer business, I think Cliff thought those were my thoughts and didn't understand my posts.

Dano1bfc · Post by **Dano1bfc** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:50 am

I stand corrected Krbfc , there was no offence intended by the way. I think sometimes we all need to remember wer on the same side. UTC!

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:37 am

I've heard we've already got three committed and one of them is described as a surprise, whatever that means!! I can't reveal my source and I understand these people "in the know" very rarely are, but he seemed quite convincing. Time will tell I guess.

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:39 am

It’ll be a surprise when one of you who comes out and says I can’t reveal my source, actually comes out with something truthful

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:46 am

jlup1980 wrote:I've heard we've already got three committed and one of them is described as a surprise, whatever that means!! I can't reveal my source and I understand these people "in the know" very rarely are, but he seemed quite convincing. Time will tell I guess.

Its not agent claret is it your source ?

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:47 am

Yeah the old "I've heard 3 players on the way, I can't say the names of the players, clubs they're from, the fee or my source"

But if they come in, I can....

I enjoy how many people on here, are the only person, that gets inside info from around 50 football teams acrosd the country.

Rule 1, if someone has said "don't mention it to anyone but we're getting A,B and C player from X club, but don't say anything as I'll get in trouble, then there's 2 answers.

1. They're talking bullsh1t
2. They've told the same thing to around 100 others to appear in the know.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:50 am

Reecey1987 wrote:Its not agent claret is it your source ?

To be fair, "we're getting a lad from Newcastle and it's a done deal but it's top secret", could just mean a lad is coming home from uni to surprise his dad at Ninos for his 50th...

claretrobo1 · Post by **claretrobo1** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:51 am

All this “I can’t reveal my source is ********. Just either say your source or don’t say anything. A 5 year old can make up a few players we could sign and that can be disguised as a source. The interest in Jay and Dawson is obviously alive but I’m sure there’s many other names on the list which could surface near the end of the window

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:01 am

claretrobo1 wrote:All this “I can’t reveal my source is ********. Just either say your source or don’t say anything. A 5 year old can make up a few players we could sign and that can be disguised as a source. The interest in Jay and Dawson is obviously alive but I’m sure there’s many other names on the list which could surface near the end of the window

Or a simple I've heard this player from X club.

I doubt youre the only person in the world who knows about a player enquiry or if it's further than that, and I very much doubt anyone will be hunting you down from your cryptic username that you've made up because you talk bo11ocks and want to keep your identity unknown...

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:15 am

I always take these sorts of comments with a pinch of salt and I never usually post anything about them but I feel like some on here are getting into a bit of a tizz over our dealings. I don't know the names of the players he mentioned, I laughed at him at the time actually, but I just thought I'd post it to try and negate this idea that we've only enquired about Jay Rod and Dawson! It's absolutely preposterous to suggest as much.

I'm merely pointing out that there are no doubt things happening that we have no idea about. My mate could be right, but let's be honest, he's most likely wrong! However, I'm pretty sure our Manager has come up with a list of new players that contains more than two names! Calm down folks, it's not even July yet!

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:05 am

Here here, even if we didn't sign anyone would it matter.

We will sign someone I'm sure, it'll take time, it won't satisfy every fan.
But whatever happens we will still be watching our team playing in Europe and the Premier League come August.

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:00 am

With Bobby Reid going to Cardiff I expect West Brom will be more reluctant to let Jay leave.

k90bfc · Post by **k90bfc** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:12 pm

With Nahki Wells,part of the deal,Jay will be back!UTC.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:24 pm

These windows do my head in!
What do we actually need (as opposed to want)?
A replacement for Ben Mee if he chooses not to sign a new deal.
A 4th choice central defender
Possibly a young winger.
Hopefully keep both of our excellent goalkeepers

That would do me nicely

trawdenclaret · Post by **trawdenclaret** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:28 pm

could kevin long be part of a deal for dawson?

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:42 pm

k90bfc wrote:With Nahki Wells,part of the deal,Jay will be back!UTC.

How much do we value nahki wells ? And how much will we have to part with?

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:15 pm

trawdenclaret wrote:could kevin long be part of a deal for dawson?

I hope not! we need 4 CHs. Unless Taylor is still being considered as the fourth?

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:58 pm

piston broke wrote:I hope not! we need 4 CHs. Unless Taylor is still being considered as the fourth?

I cant see longy going dyche really rates him

Long Time Lurker · Post by **Long Time Lurker** » Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:41 am

boatshed bill wrote:These windows do my head in!
What do we actually need (as opposed to want)?
A replacement for Ben Mee if he chooses not to sign a new deal.
A 4th choice central defender
Possibly a young winger.
Hopefully keep both of our excellent goalkeepers

That would do me nicely

Very similar to my thoughts on what we need.

The Ben Mee situation is hard to predict from the outside looking in,but however it works out we need another 4th choice central defender. A young left winger would be another good addition 21-26.

On top of that I would say that a back up for Jeff, who is also in his last year, is something we should be looking at.

Having only one player for the energetic CM/AM role, which was an important part of our tactical set up last season, means our strength in depth for that key position is non existent. My two picks have been snapped up so I don't know who we could look at next to fill that slot. Conor Hourihane isn't ideal, but the UK options that would fit into our price range are very limited.

A young attacking right back who can come in and work towards replacing Bardsley when he leaves would be a very welcome addition, but not one that is urgently needed.

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:01 am

I don't like the sound of someone "going on strike" to force a transfer. If it's true that Jay's up for coming back but won't force their hand by not turning up for training due to his recognition for the way WBA supported him (cf. Bong) then fair play to the lad.

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:08 am

MACCA wrote:To be fair, "we're getting a lad from Newcastle and it's a done deal but it's top secret", could just mean a lad is coming home from uni to surprise his dad at Ninos for his 50th...

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/f ... d-14863229

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:26 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/f ... d-14863229

Wait, you're being serious aren't you?

brunlea99 · Post by **brunlea99** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 3:38 pm

Dawson reportedly has put in a transfer request:

https://www.thesportsman.com/articles/w ... y-to-swoop" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

DAVETHEVICAR · Post by **DAVETHEVICAR** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:07 pm

Nixon says on Twitter that Dawson is “not happy”
Won’t be long before he is a Burnley player and WBA are already in advance talks to land Bartley as a replacement

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:32 pm

MACCA wrote:

Wait, you're being serious aren't you?

Have we brought in a player or not from NEWCASTLE I said at the time I knew norhing about the player position he plays or age or value just he was coming from Newcastle and I was RIGHT thank you muppet

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:36 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:Have we brought in a player or not from NEWCASTLE I said at the time I knew norhing about the player position he plays or age or value just he was coming from Newcastle and I was RIGHT thank you muppet

Can I follow you on Twitter for anymore amazing scoops like this?