From what you have seen so far in the world cup,how would Burnley's best eleven do ?

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:51 pm

This season it has been individual brilliance that has been our nemesis so I think we might have struggled against Ronaldo but I think we would have been fine in most games beaten the lower ranked teams and held Spain at arms length for large periods and might have got a draw. That is so far.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:53 pm

Don't think we would have qualified

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:56 pm

We could give all this lot a good licking

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:57 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Don't think we would have qualified

Don't kill it yet

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:58 pm

Depends, if we had a manager with international experience we would struggle but might get a draw or even pinch a win and maybe get third in the group. With Dyche in charge playing the tactics he employs in the English leagues we would get our arses handed to us and get thumped

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:58 pm

Top Claret wrote:We could give all this lot a good licking

Wrong site and wrong thread

.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:59 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Depends, if we had a manager with international experience we would struggle but might get a draw or even pinch a win and maybe get third in the group. With Dyche in charge playing the tactics he employs in the English leagues we would get our arses handed to us and get thumped

I didn't ask you.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:00 pm

Ben Mee would have blocked that Nacho shot for the goal.

The greedy Portuguese winker wouldn't have had a hat trick because Pope would have saved his second.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:02 pm

Realistically we wouldn't beat a single team but who knows, we don't have any quality to break down the deep defending minnows like Iran and the top sides have too much quality for us to get out of our own half for periods.

Japebe43 · Post by **Japebe43** » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:02 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Ben Mee would have blocked that Nacho shot for the goal.

The greedy Portuguese winker wouldn't have had a hat trick because Pope would have saved his second.

Karius would have saved his second..

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:03 pm

KRBFC wrote:Realistically we wouldn't beat a single team but who knows

I feel reasonably confident that we could give that Saudi Arabia side a game.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:04 pm

KRBFC wrote:Realistically we wouldn't beat a single team but who knows, we don't have any quality to break down the deep defending minnows like Iran and the top sides have too much quality for us to get out of our own half for periods.

I was rather hoping you were still sectioned and wouldn't have access to the internet.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:04 pm

Saying that though, we play like Iran and they won a game with an own goal so who knows

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:04 pm

KRBFC wrote:Realistically we wouldn't beat a single team but who knows, we don't have any quality to break down the deep defending minnows like Iran and the top sides have too much quality for us to get out of our own half for periods.

Says realistically we wouldn't beat a single team then 'who knows'.

Posting for the sake of it.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:06 pm

Japebe43 wrote:Karius would have saved his second..

I can honestly say a 100 year old nearly dead person would have saved Winker's second goal

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:06 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Says realistically we wouldn't beat a single team then 'who knows'.

Posting for the sake of it.

Yeah because who knows? I didn't think Iran would win a game but they did.

gawthorpe_view · Post by **gawthorpe_view** » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:10 pm

0-0 v Iceland.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:11 pm

All you have to do is look at the level that some of these players play at. Our players ply their trade at the upper end of the Premier League, Iran's scorer (Moroccan) yesterday plays in the German second tier. There are a number of teams at this world cup that our team is capable of beating. Of those seen so far I'd fancy our chances against Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iran, Morocco and Australia. Maybe even Denmark and Nigeria.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:12 pm

gawthorpe_view wrote:0-0 v Iceland.

Pretty sure Chris Wood would (

) have scored the penalty.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:22 pm

gawthorpe_view wrote:0-0 v Iceland.

They have less to choose from then ASDA Tesco and Sainsburys and we would stuff them.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:25 pm

Top Claret wrote:We could give all this lot a good licking

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ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:17 pm

Got battered most games.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:58 pm

spain and portugal are the only two who would definately have beaten us in my opinion.
Russia may well have scored 5, but saudi's were worse than burton albion, so we'd have been ok against the hosts too.
nigeria, dreadful, peru were great in patches, but not good enough to beat us either.
Iceland were us in disguise, probable draw 0-0.
argentina , well messi looked like a lively lad, but tarks would have stifled his game this aft.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:34 pm

Spain v Burnley would be at least twice as big a defeat as Arsenal v Burnley a few weeks back. Even the Burnley players shadows would have been chasing shadows. We'd need both Nick Pope and Tom Heaton in goal to have a chance of keeping the score down to single figures. However, I'm not sure that Man City at their best could keep pace with Spain.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:51 pm

Paul Waine wrote:Spain v Burnley would be at least twice as big a defeat as Arsenal v Burnley a few weeks back. Even the Burnley players shadows would have been chasing shadows. We'd need both Nick Pope and Tom Heaton in goal to have a chance of keeping the score down to single figures. However, I'm not sure that Man City at their best could keep pace with Spain.

Don't be daft Paul.

COBBLE · Post by **COBBLE** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:02 am

Good question, I was thinking slightly differently. How would BFC do with a fit Renaldo through to the finals?

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:05 am

Deepnds, I don't think scoring a goal against Brazil then trying to defend against them for 85 minutes whilst hoofing the ball away would cut much mustard.

andyh · Post by **andyh** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:41 am

Surprised all of the negative posts. Forget us where would the countries be in the prem league. Spain prob challenging city, Portugal and France same as arsenal, most of the other would be around where we are and a couple in relegation worries or Saudi and Nigeria pushing for rock bottom.

Zom Zom · Post by **Zom Zom** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:20 am

Saudi Arabia and Nigeria would have struggled against Stockport.
Iceland (or Dyche-land as I called them yesterday) will be tough opposition for whoever they play in the competition. I wouldn't mind any of those lads wearing the claret and blue of Burnley next season.

andyh · Post by **andyh** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:26 am

Zom Zom wrote:Saudi Arabia and Nigeria would have struggled against Stockport.
Iceland (or Dyche-land as I called them yesterday) will be tough opposition for whoever they play in the competition. I wouldn't mind any of those lads wearing the claret and blue of Burnley next season.

Couldn’t agree more. A team of Dyche like players. I think With one or two notable exceptions they are probably slightly worse man for man than we are. Which means they would prob only be squad players.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:31 am

gawthorpe_view wrote:0-0 v Iceland.

Would JBG change teams at halftime?

Raz · Post by **Raz** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:40 am

I think we could take on the minor teams with a good chance of results. C Wood is a far from world class striker and he know he is not however he scores consistently at the minor international level given his physicality. So if our defece holds and Barns and Wood up front..we could eek out some results...A lot of these minor teams are middle to lower EPL level if they do not have any standard out world class players.

GDK · Post by **GDK** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:29 pm

I think people are massively underestimating the value of training week in, week out with the same players, coaches and manager. Sure the likes of Spain and Portugal have a few players better than ours, but can they genuinely achieve the same level of organisation and framework that we have developed over a full season? As we have shown, this counts for a lot these days.

Where we'd struggle however is with not being able to compete with the seemingly mandatory diving and cheating that is making the tournament hard to watch.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:14 pm

We'd beat Saudia Arabia.Nigeria and get a draw with Iceland and Australia.France are Arsenal of the tournament getting very dodgy pen.

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:42 pm

I think we would struggle against the higher ranked teams but like the Premier League, be the best of the rest.

gawthorpe_view · Post by **gawthorpe_view** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:41 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:Would JBG change teams at halftime?

No, he's a Burnley player, obviously.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:46 pm

This Mexico side is how I'd like to see us play, pacey fast attacking high tempo but defensively organised and willing to pass the ball.... very impressive I must say, no fear from kick off, fought fire with fire instead of trying to dull the game and getting spanked.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:45 pm

KRBFC wrote:This Mexico side is how I'd like to see us play, pacey fast attacking high tempo but defensively organised and willing to pass the ball.... very impressive I must say, no fear from kick off, fought fire with fire instead of trying to dull the game and getting spanked.

Perhaps I might be missing something but until the heart of the team was devastated by injuries that's how we played.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:53 pm

bfcjg wrote:Perhaps I might be missing something but until the heart of the team was devastated by injuries that's how we played.

I don't think we've ever played attacking high tempo football under Dyche and we certainly don't have pace like the Mexicans.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:30 pm

KRBFC wrote:I don't think we've ever played attacking high tempo football under Dyche and we certainly don't have pace like the Mexicans.

Chelsea away to start the ball rolling.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:33 pm

starting_11 wrote:Deepnds, I don't think scoring a goal against Brazil then trying to defend against them for 85 minutes whilst hoofing the ball away would cut much mustard.

That plan worked very well two seasons ago against Liverpool who had Coutinho in their side.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:07 pm

bfcjg wrote:Chelsea away to start the ball rolling.

A fine performance but high tempo attacking and pacey? never in a million years, we were trapped inside our own half for the entire 2nd half even against 9 men. Maybe you think Vokes/Brady/JBG are pacey players, I definitely don't.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:19 pm

Two more teams tonight I think we would do well against.

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:59 pm

I don't think we would have beaten any of the teams who have played so far. Not courting argument, just my opinion.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:10 pm

Wed have beaten Tunisia. Can you imagine Barnes f in up those chances ?

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:42 pm

JohnMac wrote:I don't think we would have beaten any of the teams who have played so far. Not courting argument, just my opinion.

Saudi Arabia?

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:48 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Saudi Arabia?

Too slippery, a draw

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:07 pm

To date even with my Claret glasses on we wouldn't have beaten any of the teams who have played in the knock out stages.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:11 pm

We'd have been the weakest side out of the 32 (33).

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:13 pm

FactualFrank wrote:We'd have been the weakest side out of the 32 (33).

We'd have beaten Panama.