How many TV commentators' mistakes are acceptable?
How many TV commentators' mistakes are acceptable?
Just watched Croatia beat Nigeria on Bein Sport, a French pay channel.
Ok, I follow Croatian football so inevitably know a bit about the players as in which club they play for. That said, most of the Croats who played tonight are at big to reasonably big clubs.
The commentator told us that Ivan Strinic plays for Sampdoria. He did last season. But he's now signed for Milan. Okay, I'm being pedantic. Give the bloke a break.
Next up: Marko Pjaca comes on as a sub. We get told he "used to play for Juventus". We got a bit of clarification a few seconds later when we learned he was on loan at Schalke in the second half of the season. True, he was at Schalke. Later on we then get informed that he's signed a permanent deal with the German club and "will be playing for them in the CL next season". Trouble is he won't. Because he's gone back to Juventus.
Am I being overly demanding to find these two mistakes a bit shabby? Should I think "well, they're not playing in France so, you, know cut the bloke some slack."?
Ok, I follow Croatian football so inevitably know a bit about the players as in which club they play for. That said, most of the Croats who played tonight are at big to reasonably big clubs.
The commentator told us that Ivan Strinic plays for Sampdoria. He did last season. But he's now signed for Milan. Okay, I'm being pedantic. Give the bloke a break.
Next up: Marko Pjaca comes on as a sub. We get told he "used to play for Juventus". We got a bit of clarification a few seconds later when we learned he was on loan at Schalke in the second half of the season. True, he was at Schalke. Later on we then get informed that he's signed a permanent deal with the German club and "will be playing for them in the CL next season". Trouble is he won't. Because he's gone back to Juventus.
Am I being overly demanding to find these two mistakes a bit shabby? Should I think "well, they're not playing in France so, you, know cut the bloke some slack."?
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No. You should write off to Bein immediately and tell them your concerns.
They've had four years to get this right.
They've had four years to get this right.
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Re: How many TV commentators' mistakes are acceptable?
If the Argie v Iceland commentator had said that Guddy played for Barnsley, then I'd have been a bit miffed.
Other than that, I couldn't give a sh1t.
Other than that, I couldn't give a sh1t.
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Loads and loads then we have something to talk about.
Classic to date last night, Danny Murphy ronaldo wont get the ball over the wall from there.
Classic to date last night, Danny Murphy ronaldo wont get the ball over the wall from there.
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There were loads tonight. Football related and otherwise.
According to John Champion Kalingrad is an enclave. Its not its an exclave...
According to John Champion Kalingrad is an enclave. Its not its an exclave...
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A bit like missing an "in" out of Kaliningrad then?cricketfieldclarets wrote:There were loads tonight. Football related and otherwise.
According to John Champion Kalingrad is an enclave. Its not its an exclave...
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I'm not being paid to talk factually about it on national TV.nil_desperandum wrote:A bit like missing an "in" out of Kaliningrad then?
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As I’m in Tenerife at the moment, Bein sports is what I see. The commentary, but particularly the pundits were bloody appalling, made BT look professional. Keys and Gray were just out for an argument, if something’s ruled good they wanted to prove the opposite and vice versa. Jeez.
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And this is why we need to privatise the BBC. They're ******* useless. Wait...
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Whilst we’re discussing tv coverage, does anyone else think that Roy Keane might end Slaven Bilic next time he touches his arm?
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No, Bilic would rag doll Keane all around the TV studio.
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I’d like to see it. Do you think Dixon would try and split them up?Bin Ont Turf wrote:No, Bilic would rag doll Keane all around the TV studio.
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Only if he has Steve Bould and Tony Adams with him.
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beIN is a Qatar based offshoot of Al Jazheeri. I listen to it with the Arabic commentary. Far more fun.
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Anyone who heard Terry Butcher on 5Live last night would forgive any TV commentators. His input was just ramblings and rantings, highly critical of players and totally unprofessional. I had to turn it off.
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I don't know if this classes as a mistake but it's weird http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/news/a8596 ... asurement/
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One of today's games (I lose track) had a forward take a shot, the ball bounce back to him off a defender, and the forward have another shot which went out for a goal kick. So the linesman signalled goal kick, as he would, and the commentator told us that the forward had been flagged offside when the ball bounced back off the defender.
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The commentator that works for ESPN Australia described Mexico as 'the Central Americans' today. Even worse it was a summary of an earlier game and presumably no producer spotted it.
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The USA doesn't tend to recognise Central America; the UK and (presumably) Australia do. If he'd called it African, you'd have had a point.
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Give over you weren’t impressed with his tomato ketchup story the other day?!?Zom Zom wrote:Anyone who heard Terry Butcher on 5Live last night would forgive any TV commentators. His input was just ramblings and rantings, highly critical of players and totally unprofessional. I had to turn it off.
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Re: How many TV commentators' mistakes are acceptable?
As many as they like as I usually ignore most of what is said.
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maybe we should have VAR for commentators and a league where you get negative points for each mistake and see the results at the end of the WC
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Reus for Germany, I did wonder how he was offside when the ball bounced back off the defender and then I watched the replay, it didn't spoil my day but it was poor commentary.dsr wrote:One of today's games (I lose track) had a forward take a shot, the ball bounce back to him off a defender, and the forward have another shot which went out for a goal kick. So the linesman signalled goal kick, as he would, and the commentator told us that the forward had been flagged offside when the ball bounced back off the defender.
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It's part of the North American continent.dsr wrote:The USA doesn't tend to recognise Central America; the UK and (presumably) Australia do. If he'd called it African, you'd have had a point.
"The United Mexican States (Spanish: Estados Unidos Mexicanos, About this sound listen ; colloquially: Mexico (Spanish: México [ˈmexiko] (About this sound listen); Nahuatl languages: Mēxihco),[10][11][12][13] is a federal republic in the southern portion of North America. It is bordered to the north by the United States; to the south and west by the Pacific Ocean; to the southeast by Guatemala, Belize, and the Caribbean Sea; and to the east by the Gulf of Mexico"
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But failing to identify the exact position of a border that doesn't have an exact position? Not quite in the same category as the American TV network that showed a map of South America to illustrate the World Cup in South Africa.CharlieinNewMexico wrote:It's part of the North American continent.
"The United Mexican States (Spanish: Estados Unidos Mexicanos, About this sound listen ; colloquially: Mexico (Spanish: México [ˈmexiko] (About this sound listen); Nahuatl languages: Mēxihco),[10][11][12][13] is a federal republic in the southern portion of North America. It is bordered to the north by the United States; to the south and west by the Pacific Ocean; to the southeast by Guatemala, Belize, and the Caribbean Sea; and to the east by the Gulf of Mexico"
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Obviously you have absolutely nothing in life to worry about . To come on here and start a thread on something so trivial is absolutely pathetic . I guess its the sign of the times now though . Its quite scary and disturbing though thinking where society will end up .ecc wrote:Just watched Croatia beat Nigeria on Bein Sport, a French pay channel.
Ok, I follow Croatian football so inevitably know a bit about the players as in which club they play for. That said, most of the Croats who played tonight are at big to reasonably big clubs.
The commentator told us that Ivan Strinic plays for Sampdoria. He did last season. But he's now signed for Milan. Okay, I'm being pedantic. Give the bloke a break.
Next up: Marko Pjaca comes on as a sub. We get told he "used to play for Juventus". We got a bit of clarification a few seconds later when we learned he was on loan at Schalke in the second half of the season. True, he was at Schalke. Later on we then get informed that he's signed a permanent deal with the German club and "will be playing for them in the CL next season". Trouble is he won't. Because he's gone back to Juventus.
Am I being overly demanding to find these two mistakes a bit shabby? Should I think "well, they're not playing in France so, you, know cut the bloke some slack."?
I remember the times when men were men
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Sweden vs South Korea today. Or according to the bbc graphics. Sweden v Serbia.
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"Obviously you have absolutely nothing in life to worry about . To come on here and start a thread on something so trivial is absolutely pathetic . I guess its the sign of the times now though . Its quite scary and disturbing though thinking where society will end up .
I remember the times when men were men."
LOL.
I remember the times when men were men."
LOL.
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I've watched all of the games so far on TRT1 HD with Turkish commentary so wouldn't have a clue although the seem to shout "Messi" every 10cm of turf he runs over with the ball.
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Re: How many TV commentators' mistakes are acceptable?
If that is your job mistakes should be minimal, what's acceptable is a personal opinion.
People make mistakes, I generally do not pay enough attention, however I had the displeasure of listening to Martin Keown yesterday evening.
A multitude of incoherent and nonsensical made up phrases that I still can not get out of my head,:
" play through the compartments" and "stitch in some information " were two of his gems.
The sad part of analysis and commentating is that it has become a massive part of football particularly for ex players, sadly for the viewer the majority of them are just not good enough.
People make mistakes, I generally do not pay enough attention, however I had the displeasure of listening to Martin Keown yesterday evening.
A multitude of incoherent and nonsensical made up phrases that I still can not get out of my head,:
" play through the compartments" and "stitch in some information " were two of his gems.
The sad part of analysis and commentating is that it has become a massive part of football particularly for ex players, sadly for the viewer the majority of them are just not good enough.
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He said play through the compartments about 6 times
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"play through the compartments"
Rough guess: "compartment" = "channel" ?
Rough guess: "compartment" = "channel" ?