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New Speed Camera vans

Post by Hendrickxz » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:16 pm

Anyone else spotted the new-style speeding camera vans? They are much taller than the previous ones and have a "port" above the front of the cab where the cameras are mouned. They are also painted a deeper shade of yellow then previously with larger sections of the bodywork in blue. They are tall enough to park among a line of cars and "see over the top". I have a sneaky suspicion that they might be able to clock you both ways -- when approaching or going away from them. :?:

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Re: New Speed Camera vans

Post by edwardianclaret » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:18 pm

is this a serious thread ? Or just another designed to be boring to **** me off ?

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Re: New Speed Camera vans

Post by Paranoid » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:22 pm

One on Heifer Lane in Colne last week, luckily guy in front spotted it and slowed down, I didn't appreciate what is was until level with it!!

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Re: New Speed Camera vans

Post by piston broke » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:23 pm

I was FBed this yesterday.

Take a good look at this for those that don’t know it’s what the new speed camera vans look like. There was one on Burnley Road Rstall this week. Apparently they have a camera in the front too and detect seat belts and mobile phones too!
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Re: New Speed Camera vans

Post by Hendrickxz » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:28 pm

edwardianclaret wrote:is this a serious thread ? Or just another designed to be boring to **** me off ?
Strangely, having read your earlier outburst, I did think about you when I posted it. Then I thought, sod him! :D
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Re: New Speed Camera vans

Post by MarkGreen » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:33 pm

I got caught from one on Padiham road overtaking as it goes to two lanes just after George the fourth with the car wash on your left.

My own mistake so not blaming anyone, but I think where it opens up the limit should change to 40 and then go back to 30 as it goes back into a single lane.

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Re: New Speed Camera vans

Post by ClaretEngineer » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:40 pm

MarkGreen wrote:I got caught from one on Padiham road overtaking as it goes to two lanes just after George the fourth with the car wash on your left.

My own mistake so not blaming anyone, but I think where it opens up the limit should change to 40 and then go back to 30 as it goes back into a single lane.
It’s a strange bit of road. Not enough to make it a fast section but not short enough to make it single only with designated parking.

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Re: New Speed Camera vans

Post by MarkGreen » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:45 pm

ClaretEngineer wrote:It’s a strange bit of road. Not enough to make it a fast section but not short enough to make it single only with designated parking.
Agreed, I guess there are also a few left turns on the road so having 2 lanes allows people to pass without having to cue. Just gutting to receive the letter when I stick to 30 all the way up Padiham road and just put my foot down at that point to get passed.

They certainly know where to place themselves anyway!

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Re: New Speed Camera vans

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:18 pm

Can they get you driving towards them as well as away from them? If so Ive just been clocked doing 105 down the ridge ffs. Money making bastards.

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Re: New Speed Camera vans

Post by Billy Balfour » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:20 pm

To be fair, Cricket. Doing 105 down the Ridge is a bit excessive. I usually stick to 80.

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Re: New Speed Camera vans

Post by BennyD » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:22 pm

If so, you won’t have to worry about speeding for the 28 days, or more, after your court case. What was the speed limit?

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Re: New Speed Camera vans

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:24 pm

Billy Balfour wrote:To be fair, Cricket. Doing 105 down the Ridge is a bit excessive. I usually stick to 80.
In a rush to watch the game. Can they pick you up on your phone or just speed?

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Re: New Speed Camera vans

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:25 pm

BennyD wrote:If so, you won’t have to worry about speeding for the 28 days, or more, after your court case. What was the speed limit?
30 or 40 on ridge not sure.

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Re: New Speed Camera vans

Post by Billy Balfour » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:27 pm

It's 30mph.

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Re: New Speed Camera vans

Post by BennyD » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:34 pm

105 in a 30? Wow, you don’t f*ck about. 3.5 times the limit is well into the realms of reckless driving and a lot depends on the beak. If you have been ‘got’ it’s unlikely to end well for you. Do you like porridge? If not, it might be worth getting a taste for it in case the beak is a ball breaker. The irony, is that you won’t be getting a speed awareness course!

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Re: New Speed Camera vans

Post by BennyD » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:38 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:In a rush to watch the game. Can they pick you up on your phone or just speed?
If you were holding your phone while doing 105 you deserve all that’s coming to you, and that will be either reckless or dangerous driving. If it’s a camera facing you, it will show you using the phone and a camera from the back probably will. If so, you are so f*cked it isn’t true. If I was you, I’d be sh!tting myself for the next 2 weeks and if you do get away with it, regard it as a life changing escape and a great learning experience. :shock:

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Re: New Speed Camera vans

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:42 pm

BennyD wrote:If you were holding your phone while doing 105 you deserve all that’s coming to you, and that will be either reckless or dangerous driving. If it’s a camera facing you, it will show you using the phone and a camera from the back probably will. If so, you are so f*cked it isn’t true. If I was you, I’d be sh!tting myself for the next 2 weeks and if you do get away with it, regard it as a life changing escape and a great learning experience. :shock:
Ffs. Hopefully they didnt catch me. Lesson learnt. But cant stand the scams in this country milking any opportunity for taxing the public.
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Re: New Speed Camera vans

Post by piston broke » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:49 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:In a rush to watch the game. Can they pick you up on your phone or just speed?
See post4.

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Re: New Speed Camera vans

Post by Stayingup » Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:50 pm

All these police cut backs they are moaning about. They haven't cut back on this money making racket have they?
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Re: New Speed Camera vans

Post by MRG » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:02 pm

Somebody has certainly been caught on here and it’s not Cricketfield!!

These vans are going to catch a lot of people, much less obvious and the forward facing camera is a bugger!

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Re: New Speed Camera vans

Post by TsarBomba » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:16 pm

Stayingup wrote:All these police cut backs they are moaning about. They haven't cut back on this money making racket have they?
The money doesn’t go to the Police. Never has done. Another Police myth that has always been incorrect.

Lancashire Road Safety Partnership is made up of various councils and emergency services, who identify sections of road that have high(er) rate of recorded collisions, and to identify drivers either speeding, using their mobile phone, drink/drug driving, or not wearing a seatbelt, which are the main contributors to collisions.

I personally don’t have a problem with this, and if you are doing 105mph in a 30mph, then quite frankly, you deserve to lose your licence as an absolute minimum.
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Re: New Speed Camera vans

Post by Stayingup » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:46 pm

TsarBomba wrote:The money doesn’t go to the Police. Never has done. Another Police myth that has always been incorrect.

Lancashire Road Safety Partnership is made up of various councils and emergency services, who identify sections of road that have high(er) rate of recorded collisions, and to identify drivers either speeding, using their mobile phone, drink/drug driving, or not wearing a seatbelt, which are the main contributors to collisions.

I personally don’t have a problem with this, and if you are doing 105mph in a 30mph, then quite frankly, you deserve to lose your licence as an absolute minimum.
However you wish to couch it it's a money making scheme. What gets me as I drive around the country as I do is the real loons on the road never seem to get caught. And I do have a problem with being done at 35 miles an hour on a road that isn't dangerous. That is a racket.
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Re: New Speed Camera vans

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:59 pm

Its a scam

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Re: New Speed Camera vans

Post by TsarBomba » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:13 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Its a scam
You’ve admitted to driving at 105mph in a 30mph zone, and now you’re worried that you’ve been caught.

So no, it’s not a scam. You’ve completely justified why speed cameras are deployed, thanks to your blatant disregard for your own and other road users safety.
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Re: New Speed Camera vans

Post by Billy Balfour » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:17 pm

I bet he waved to them as he flew past, then he woke up and put the telly on for the football.

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Re: New Speed Camera vans

Post by Burnley1989 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:21 pm

BennyD wrote:105 in a 30? Wow, you don’t f*ck about. 3.5 times the limit is well into the realms of reckless driving and a lot depends on the beak. If you have been ‘got’ it’s unlikely to end well for you. Do you like porridge? If not, it might be worth getting a taste for it in case the beak is a ball breaker. The irony, is that you won’t be getting a speed awareness course!
105mph, on the phone and on beak? You’re looking at 9 points there

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Post by TsarBomba » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:24 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:105mph, on the phone and on beak? You’re looking at 9 points there
If you’re caught at 105mph in a 30mph, and also on your phone, you’re looking at losing your licence as a bare minimum, with a huge fine. There may also be a custodial sentence too, if not suspended.

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Re: New Speed Camera vans

Post by deanothedino » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:27 pm

Stayingup wrote:However you wish to couch it it's a money making scheme. What gets me as I drive around the country as I do is the real loons on the road never seem to get caught. And I do have a problem with being done at 35 miles an hour on a road that isn't dangerous. That is a racket.
No, that's catching people breaking the law. How much difference does that 5 miles an hour make? Stop being a bell end and they'll stop using cameras.

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Re: New Speed Camera vans

Post by Loyalclaret » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:42 pm

Parked on Eastern Avenue now if anyone needs a look

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Re: New Speed Camera vans

Post by yorkyclaret » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:09 pm

What happens if you are not wearing a seatbelt because they are not fitted in the car?

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Re: New Speed Camera vans

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:41 pm

TsarBomba wrote:If you’re caught at 105mph in a 30mph, and also on your phone, you’re looking at losing your licence as a bare minimum, with a huge fine. There may also be a custodial sentence too, if not suspended.
Nonsense. Theyre parked in spots that are easy to get people. Its not my fault. Theyre not usually there and nothing to warn you.

My livlihoods at stake now :evil:

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Re: New Speed Camera vans

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:41 pm

yorkyclaret wrote:What happens if you are not wearing a seatbelt because they are not fitted in the car?
Probably do you for that too. Its a joke.

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Post by tim_noone » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:01 pm

I drive about with lithuanian plates on tbh ive never had a problem.
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Re: New Speed Camera vans

Post by BennyD » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:36 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Nonsense. Theyre parked in spots that are easy to get people. Its not my fault. Theyre not usually there and nothing to warn you.

My livlihoods at stake now :evil:
Sorry, it’s not nonsense.
Correct.
Yes it is; driving at 3.5 times the speed limit most certainly is your fault.
If they were there every day, they would become a fixed camera site and people like you would slow down when approaching.
A big blue and yellow van is a warning; if you can’t see it, again, it’s your fault.
If you need your car for work, don’t exceed twice the speed limit or 100mph. If you do, you’ll get banned.

Don’t get me wrong, I hate camera vans too. Having been caught numerous times and banned twice, trust me I hate them as much as anyone. However. If I ever thought about exceeding the limit by 3.5 times, I also have to accept that, if caught, I would have to pay the bill. If you can’t afford to pay such a bill, dont be such a c*nt. What you did was outrageous and if you can’t see that, you probably need time off the road to reappraise your attitude to driving and I would say that to anyone in your position.

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Post by tim_noone » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:39 pm

Thats the pot calling the kettle...

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Post by BennyD » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:44 pm

No it isn’t; I did the crime, did the time but didn’t blame anyone else. I’m not saying don’t speed but, ffs, 3.5 times the speed limit is ripping the p!ss.

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Post by tim_noone » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:46 pm

BennyD wrote:No it isn’t; I did the crime, did the time but didn’t blame anyone else. I’m not saying don’t speed but, ffs, 3.5 times the speed limit is ripping the p!ss.
Thats a fair point.well put.

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Post by dsr » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:25 am

He wasn't doing 105 mph. He's winding you up.

But I agree that the police do use the vans to raise money, whoever gets it in the end. Why would they frequently put cameras on the dual carriageway bit of Padiham Road, where there aren't even any footpaths let alone pedestrians? Why not put them outside schools, for example, where speeding is really dangerous? Answer - because it doesn't raise much money.
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Post by BennyD » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:36 am

It’s to prove that Paedophiles aren’t all bad; they are the ones that drive slowly outside schools.
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Post by deanothedino » Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:29 am

dsr wrote:He wasn't doing 105 mph. He's winding you up.

But I agree that the police do use the vans to raise money, whoever gets it in the end. Why would they frequently put cameras on the dual carriageway bit of Padiham Road, where there aren't even any footpaths let alone pedestrians? Why not put them outside schools, for example, where speeding is really dangerous? Answer - because it doesn't raise much money.
They wouldn't make any money if people had the self control to stay within 10% of the speed limit.

If it truly was a money making exercise they would do people for 31 or 32 in a 30, but they don't.

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Re: New Speed Camera vans

Post by piston broke » Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:54 am

deanothedino wrote:They wouldn't make any money if people had the self control to stay within 10% of the speed limit.

If it truly was a money making exercise they would do people for 31 or 32 in a 30, but they don't.
I’ve found, in my car, when I pass the slow down signs that show your speed, if I’m doing 50k on my speedo it flashes up as 47 on the sign. Are all cars built with a speed leeway in them?

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Post by deanothedino » Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:52 am

piston broke wrote:I’ve found, in my car, when I pass the slow down signs that show your speed, if I’m doing 50k on my speedo it flashes up as 47 on the sign. Are all cars built with a speed leeway in them?
They're made to a negative tolerance I believe. Probably something like +3/-0. So you can probably be doing 37/38 on your speedo before the police will enforce the limit (guidelines are prosecute/enforce at 35 in a 30).
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Re: New Speed Camera vans

Post by CaptJohn » Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:56 am

They will prosecute at 31 in a 30mph zone. There is no leeway. I was on a speed awareness course recently and one guy was there having been prosecuted for going 31 in a 30 zone. Be warned.

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Post by piston broke » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:09 am

CaptJohn wrote:They will prosecute at 31 in a 30mph zone. There is no leeway. I was on a speed awareness course recently and one guy was there having been prosecuted for going 31 in a 30 zone. Be warned.
One of the old myths(?) was that you could appeal if it was within 10% and the machine had to be sent away for testing. They lost more whilst it was away than you paid for the test so they never did anyone within the 10%.

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Post by dsr » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:16 am

I've got a piece of paper in front of me (not mine!) from Manchester City Council showing a £60 penalty for driving in a bus lane. The picture shows a two-lane road with a bus lane which is about to end for a road junction; and it shows two vehicles, one a car going straight ahead, the other a van turning left. The van pulled into the bus lane twenty yards too soon, but didn't hold up any buses or other traffic.

Manchester Council have decreed that this offence is worth £60 to Manchester Council. Is this because they think driving for twenty yards in a bus lane is a serious offence, or is it because they are money-grabbing so-and-sos? Answer - they're in it for the money, and screw the public for every penny they can. What sort of attitude is that for a city council?
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Re: New Speed Camera vans

Post by NottsClaret » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:23 am

Rules are rules..

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Post by uni_queue » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:51 am

deanothedino wrote:They're made to a negative tolerance I believe. Probably something like -3/+0. So you can probably be doing 37/38 on your speedo before the police will enforce the limit (guidelines are prosecute/enforce at 35 in a 30).

The Manufacturing regulations (as per the EU :-) )are that the device must never show less than the actual speed, and must never show more than 110% of actual speed + 6.25mph
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Post by deanothedino » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:01 am

CaptJohn wrote:They will prosecute at 31 in a 30mph zone. There is no leeway. I was on a speed awareness course recently and one guy was there having been prosecuted for going 31 in a 30 zone. Be warned.
That's unusual. This is what Lancs police said about enforcement in 2015 https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... 4.pdf.html "Lancashire Constabulary do follow these guidelines but currently apply a higher threshold before
prosecution, i.e. 10% +3, for example in 30 mph limit the vehicle would have to be detected travelling
at 36 mph before a ticket would be issued for excess speed."

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Post by deanothedino » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:02 am

uni_queue wrote:The Manufacturing regulations (as per the EU :-) )are that the device must never show less than the actual speed, and must never show more than 110% of actual speed + 6.25mph
Yes, sorry - put the symbols the wrong way round!

"The speed indicated shall not be less than the true speed of the vehicle. At the test speeds specified in paragraph 5.2.5 above, there shall be the following relationship between the speed displayed (V1) and the true speed (V2).
0 ≤ (V1 – V2) ≤ 0,1 V2 + 4 km/h"

So, true speed +2.5mph

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Post by Pimlico_Claret » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:36 pm

deanothedino wrote:That's unusual. This is what Lancs police said about enforcement in 2015 https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... 4.pdf.html "Lancashire Constabulary do follow these guidelines but currently apply a higher threshold before
prosecution, i.e. 10% +3, for example in 30 mph limit the vehicle would have to be detected travelling
at 36 mph before a ticket would be issued for excess speed."
Two people where I work been fined in the last fortnight for doing 32 in a 30 zone. There is no tolerance now, unless you are a traveller ransacking Thwaites.

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