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Jack Wilshere

Post by ayrshireclaret83 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:01 pm

I’m gonna get shot down in flames here but I think we should be in for Jack now he has confirmed he is leaving Arsenal

I think Sean could get the best out of him and he would be exactly what we need to unlock a defence.

Under Dyche he would probably win back his place in the England squad.

Yeh I know wages would be sky high but surely we could put extra bonus payments or sign on fee

Will never happen tho ....

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:03 pm

yeah, we will need to find 120k a week in bonuses.

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by wilks_bfc » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:03 pm

West Ham
Southampton
Wolve
AC Milan
Sampdoria


All reported to be linked with him
All able/willing to pay far higher in wages for him

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by duncandisorderly » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:04 pm

I hope he bankrupts west ham.

Ha! Post above me came first (obviously) - but he's a perfect signing for a club with ideas above their station. West Ham being one.
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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by South West Claret. » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:05 pm

Wash your mouth out with soap and water AC83.

No no a thousand times no ;)
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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by claretblue » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:07 pm

why wouldn't Bournemouth want him?

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by starting_11 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:07 pm

It'll be West Ham out of that lot.

Doubt he wants to leave London, after all, he has so much spare time to take in the sights.

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:11 pm

If he’s got any sense he’d moved to AC Milan.

Could totally revive his career at a club spending big money.

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by fatboy47 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:16 pm

He's over rated.

He's a scrawny, half-baked, weedy little Hobbit.

He's a sicknote,

He's a big name , big ego on a big big wage.

He's not as good as what we've got.

Sod him.
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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by Rick_Muller » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:16 pm

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:If he’s got any sense he’d moved to AC Milan.

Could totally revive his career at a club spending big money.
I would agree, and the intensity wouldn’t be as much as the Premier League, but the skill levels would suit his game - add to that the fact he would improve England if he stayed fit

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:19 pm

fatboy47 wrote:He's over rated.

He's a scrawny, half-baked, weedy little Hobbit.

He's a sicknote,

He's a big name , big ego on a big big wage.

He's not as good as what we've got.

Sod him.
Don't you just love someone who doesn't pull their punches?! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by South West Claret. » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:23 pm

fatboy47 wrote:He's over rated.

He's a scrawny, half-baked, weedy little Hobbit.

He's a sicknote,

He's a big name , big ego on a big big wage.

He's not as good as what we've got.

Sod him.
Yeah but what don’t you like about him.
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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by SGr » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:24 pm

Zero chance and not even a position we need right now

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by dermotdermot » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:31 pm

He won't be coming to Burnley but it would have been nice to see him play for England last night. There was a big hole in the centre of midfield where he would have slotted in nicely. There was certainly no one else in that position.

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by tiger76 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:32 pm

He has the talent but is far too injury prone,him and Defour in the same squad are not luxuries we can afford,Wilshere would have been perfect for England too introduce from the bench last night,if he had been selected,and can unlock defences,but not a Dyche player too lightweight.

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by Spijed » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:34 pm

fatboy47 wrote:He's over rated.

He's a scrawny, half-baked, weedy little Hobbit.

He's a sicknote,

He's a big name , big ego on a big big wage.

He's not as good as what we've got.

Sod him.
At his best he's miles better than anyone we have.
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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by JimmyRobbo » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:39 pm

Proverbial show-pony.

Lots of talent but ultimately, he's exactly the type of player who gets managers sacked. Can't be relied upon.

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by Japebe43 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:39 pm

tiger76 wrote:He has the talent but is far too injury prone,him and Defour in the same squad are not luxuries we can afford,Wilshere would have been perfect for England too introduce from the bench last night,if he had been selected,and can unlock defences,but not a Dyche player too lightweight.
Did we not twice last night? Why did we need Wilshere?

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by jedi_master » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:41 pm

A luxury a team like Burnley can I’ll afford. Onthe pitch he is a one in four type (at best) and his injury record makes Darren Anderton look like a superhero.

I hope he does make a real go of it somewhere as it would benefit England but I fear his inconsistency with both form and fitness will not be changing. He is not a young kid anymore, he is in his mid twenties. It just feels like he should still be 20 as he has barely played when comparing years to games.

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by RingoMcCartney » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:47 pm

Spijed wrote:At his best he's miles better than anyone we have.
He's only ever at his best 25% of the time.

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by tiger76 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:54 pm

Spijed wrote:At his best he's miles better than anyone we have.
Can't influence a game from the stands,if you could guarantee Jack would start 30 plus games next season,and he was sensible with has wage demands,it might be worth a punt on a pay as you play deal,but Wet Spam will offer him silly money and he won't leave the sarf to come to us.

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by Imploding Turtle » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:57 pm

His medical bill per week exceeds our wage cap.
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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by tiger76 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:00 pm

Japebe43 wrote:Did we not twice last night? Why did we need Wilshere?
True we scored twice last night,both from set-pieces though,in the second half we created little from open play. Alli was anonymous and Sterling disappeared,Wilshere is the type of creator that can find the eye of the needle pass.

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by Devils_Advocate » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:12 pm

Nowt to do with the question but love this video and would love a Burnley player hating the Bastards this much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXD-7AgJjpc

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by South West Claret. » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:17 pm

Well if this near unanimous feeling is anything to go by I think it’s safe to say he won’t be coming :)

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by Japebe43 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:18 pm

tiger76 wrote:True we scored twice last night,both from set-pieces though,in the second half we created little from open play. Alli was anonymous and Sterling disappeared,Wilshere is the type of creator that can find the eye of the needle pass.
Nowt wrong with scoring from set plays.

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by CFS » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:26 pm

Poor player living of a name he made in 1 game v Barcelona.

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by The Enclosure » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:05 am

:D :D :D :D

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by NottsClaret » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:55 am

Last couple of times I watched him he was physically like an Everton- era Gazza. However good he was, he’s too diminished now for whatever reasons. Too slow and weak.

As with Gazza, we really wouldn’t want to see the Burnley version. He’s surely absolutely nailed on for West Ham, a perfect fit for their ‘ambition’ and wage bill.

* Before anyone flips their s**t, the Gazza reference is only in regard to sad physical decline.

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by bartons baggage » Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:39 am

NottsClaret wrote:Last couple of times I watched him he was physically like an Everton- era Gazza. However good he was, he’s too diminished now for whatever reasons. Too slow and weak.

As with Gazza, we really wouldn’t want to see the Burnley version. He’s surely absolutely nailed on for West Ham, a perfect fit for their ‘ambition’ and wage bill.

* Before anyone flips their s**t, the Gazza reference is only in regard to sad physical decline.
Gazza was **** for us,and the thought of that fraud Wilshere playing for Burnley makes me feel sick.

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by beddie » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:16 am

A good player when he's fit,unfortunately that's the problem now, can he stay fit,I'm afraid that's questionable.

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by jlup1980 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:43 am

He couldn't hold down a place at Bournemouth so what makes anyone think he could dislodge either Cork or Defour from our starting 11?! I wouldn't touch him; he'd be an expensive addition to the physio room!

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by Blackrod » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:30 am

Hard to think of a worse fit for us. After first day of pre season under Dyche hed be out injured for the season

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by Herts Clarets » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:33 pm

I was at the Emirates in May and Wilshere was head and shoulders better than anything we had in our midfield. Yes he is injury prone, yes his conduct has been questionable at times, but I can't agree with the view that he wouldn't be good enough for our team. I don't think he would suit our team, I don't think he would have the Dyche team ethic, but he has the ability when fit, without a doubt.

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by South West Claret. » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:36 pm

Herts Clarets wrote:I was at the Emirates in May and Wilshere was head and shoulders better than anything we had in our midfield. Yes he is injury prone, yes his conduct has been questionable at times, but I can't agree with the view that he wouldn't be good enough for our team. I don't think he would suit our team, I don't think he would have the Dyche team ethic, but he has the ability when fit, without a doubt.
Yes but no matter how good he is doesn’t alter the fact that he is “injury prone” ie no good to us.

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:40 pm

West Ham are looking to either pay up the final year of his 100k per week contract or pay towards his wages if another club takes him on loan

6 starts in 2 years would suggest he's finished at the top level and many levels below.

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:44 pm

He was class, I hope Foden doesn’t end up the same way. He was very unlucky with injuries, I watched him as a 15 year old for England and he looked good but not the best player on the park, it’s a shame because he would have made a huge difference at Arsenal & England but for always recovering from injury

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by BenWickes » Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:48 pm

Unfulfilled potential. Joe Cole another.

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by MrTopTier » Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:52 pm

Phew, thought we’d been linked.

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by Herts Clarets » Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:53 pm

182 games in 12 seasons. Averaged 15 games a season for his whole career. Is there another club as stupid as West Ham to take a punt on a player with a record as bad as that?

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:54 pm

Huge talent Horrendous injury record.

I remember watching him for england v Switzerland and he was top drawer.

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by Red Fox Rocks Socks » Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:09 pm

It’s a real shame, v talented player.

He’s not even had that Indian Summer that most injury prone players have where they get a couple of years when they’ve stopped growing and get fit to play for a while.

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:56 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:40 pm
West Ham are looking to either pay up the final year of his 100k per week contract or pay towards his wages if another club takes him on loan

6 starts in 2 years would suggest he's finished at the top level and many levels below.
19k a minute then :shock:

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:19 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:56 pm
19k a minute then :shock:
601 mins of football in the PL for West Ham over these last 2 seasons = £17304 min :o

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:22 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:40 pm
West Ham are looking to either pay up the final year of his 100k per week contract or pay towards his wages if another club takes him on loan

6 starts in 2 years would suggest he's finished at the top level and many levels below.
Has he only started six? Will be 29 on NYD but only started 133 League games in his career to date. Quality player on the pitch but no better than me when he’s sat in the stand.

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:25 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:22 pm
Has he only started six? Will be 29 on NYD but only started 133 League games in his career to date. Quality player on the pitch but no better than me when he’s sat in the stand.
https://www.whoscored.com/Players/42686 ... k-Wilshere

Yeah only six starts and some appearances as sub.

If he's got any sense he's been taking his coaching badges.

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by gawthorpe_view » Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:33 pm

He would have been here on loan in 2010 had Coyle not upped sticks taking young Jack with him.

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by tiger76 » Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:36 pm

Why would anybody take him on loan if he's not available for selection, they'd be throwing money down the drain, I can't even see any Championship clubs taking a punt on him with that injury record, he's a talented boy, but he's also a walking sicknote, shame because when he burst onto the scene he was a revelation.

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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by tim_noone » Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:38 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:36 pm
Why would anybody take him on loan if he's not available for selection, they'd be throwing money down the drain, I can't even see any Championship clubs taking a punt on him with that injury record, he's a talented boy, but he's also a walking sicknote, shame because when he burst onto the scene he was a revelation.
Nah...... hes no better than Claret Tony.. 8-)
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Re: Jack Wilshere

Post by NewClaret » Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:43 pm

Had forgotten all about him.

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