woman commentator on bbc

claretnproud · Post by **claretnproud** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:18 pm

seems very very good. Well done bbc, such a nice change.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:26 pm

I can listen to women...until they start screeching.

CleggHall · Post by **CleggHall** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:29 pm

She's the one Moyes wanted to slap - Vicki Sparks of BBC Newcastle.

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:37 pm

Yes, shes very good at saying their names as the ball comes to them.

That's about her limit though.

Claretuk · Post by **Claretuk** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:48 pm

She sounds better than the misery Keown..

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:51 pm

Agree with starting 11, she knows all their names perfectly, but that's about it. Sorry it just doesn't work for me.
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FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:52 pm

I might be in the minority, but I don't like the commentary. But yes, Keown certainly doesn't help.

Carport · Post by **Carport** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:52 pm

Too monotone

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:00 pm

She was clearly struggling to speak when the ball was in play. Thats why should could only say their names.

She was a lot more insightful and natural sounding when play was stopped.

KeighleyClaret · Post by **KeighleyClaret** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:12 pm

Thought she was fine. Knew a lot more than a lot of posters on here.

Sausage · Post by **Sausage** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:32 pm

She was okay but she talks too much. And that's nothing to do with sexism as it's a valid criticism of Clive Tyldesley too. I think it was Barry Davies who said the art of commentary is knowing when to shut up.

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:34 pm

Sausage wrote:She was okay but she talks too much. And that's nothing to do with sexism as it's a valid criticism of Clive Tyldesley too. I think it was Barry Davies who said the art of commentary is knowing when to shut up.

Phil Neville suffers from that. Plus he's clearly had some training which says "speak really quickly and sound really animated and excited" since his first appearance a few years ago.

DAVETHEVICAR · Post by **DAVETHEVICAR** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:16 pm

Thought she was very good compared to the dreadful Tyldsley and Johnathon Pearce

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:21 pm

There’s quite a big group on here who are petrified of any change.
What a way to live life.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:55 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:There’s quite a big group on here who are petrified of any change.
What a way to live life.

and another group who accept everything thrown their way and call it progress when its obvious its utter crap.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:58 pm

They’ll have them in the boardroom soon.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:04 pm

Anyone who has absolutely anything negative to say on this issue is a bigoted sexist.

claretnproud · Post by **claretnproud** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:16 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:Anyone who has absolutely anything negative to say on this issue is a bigoted sexist.

and anyone who has anything positive is a woman

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Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:46 pm

Watched both games today on the BBC, I just thank feck they didn't pair Sparks & Neville.......agonising listening to both but together I would just have to switch off.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:39 pm

starting_11 wrote:Yes, shes very good at saying their names as the ball comes to them.

Better than most then!

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:02 pm

She’s wasn’t so much commentating as reading the players names out not unlike the shipping forecast .As a pitchside ok but women’s voices just really really struggle with the pitch of match commentary especially if it’s an exciting game .Clare Balding used to be an excellent trackside/pitchside operator until she became” Overqueen Empress of all lesbians and the bbc and all
that reside within” and her ego erupted

welsbyswife · Post by **welsbyswife** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:25 pm

I'm afraid I had to turn the sound off the telly it was doing my head in so much. The high pitched tone and not knowing when to shut up make for an awful combination. It's not just the female commentators that suffer from the need to speak constantly instead of letting the game speak for itself but when you add in the tone of voice of the lady this afternoon it was too much for me.

I object to the PCness of it all but I don't think it is a problem with all female commentators but they need to have the right voice for the job just like any good male commentator. Gabby Yorath and Claire Balding have nice voices that are easy on the ear. Jonathan Pearce has an annoying voice, as has the lady from today's match.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:44 pm

Jonathan Pearce just annoys the hell of out me when commentating,i don't usually but the urge to hit the mute button is too great.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:50 pm

If it wasn't for people contstantly reminding me that there are women commentators i probably wouldn't notice. Why does anyone care?

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:51 pm

As much as I'm not keen on pundits keane wright evra and bilic had a laugh tonight as to what southgate was doing in the woods.....when he got injured. A woman would not have got it in a million years!

ColonelCool · Post by **ColonelCool** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:01 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:If it wasn't for people contstantly reminding me that there are women commentators i probably wouldn't notice. Why does anyone care?

Because they are destroying my World Cup experience.

Socrates · Post by **Socrates** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:37 pm

Men who have issues with women talking about football should hear how stupid they sound talking about women.

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:40 pm

I think Alex Scott (BBC) is fit. But Eni Aluko is a miles better pundit then her male counterparts.

ColonelCool · Post by **ColonelCool** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:46 pm

Socrates wrote:Men who have issues with women talking about football should hear how stupid they sound talking about women.

Could be worse. We could read your pointless posts.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:51 pm

Murger wrote:I think Alex Scott (BBC) is fit. But Eni Aluko is a miles better pundit then her male counterparts.

She seems to have improved from a nervy start and I love how direct she was today about Moaningrinho and his treatment of Rashford.

I reckon after her first couple of shaky appearances her agent requested getting her on the same game as Patrice Evra because this co-ck is one of the worst pundits I have ever seen - and now he is wearing a bow tie with everything just to reinforce what a clown he is

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:26 pm

Just seen the itv female host and pundit at the end of the Mexico match. Dreadful and hard to watch.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:28 pm

Blackrod wrote:Just seen the itv female host and pundit at the end of the Mexico match. Dreadful and hard to watch.

Well isn’t that funny I thought she was quite good.

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:58 pm

There’s a lot of commentators that I don’t like and she is one of them. Horrible voice and it’s not because she’s a woman.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:00 pm

Pearcey wrote:There’s a lot of commentators that I don’t like and she is one of them. Horrible voice and it’s not because she’s a woman.

I was commenting on the content of her views which sounded sound.

basil6345789 · Post by **basil6345789** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:58 pm

I agree in regard to Alex Scott's fitness but she seems a bit fick and speaks like a London numpty; charnce etc. I don't want to hear it but she is sweet.

Millertime v1.7 · Post by **Millertime v1.7** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:06 pm

I'd eat the corn out of Alex Scott's stool samples
THAT is how aroused I am by her. And you can put that on my epitaph.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:14 am

As a practising mysogonist I'm of the belief that women should be neither seen nor heard.

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:21 am

South West Claret. wrote:I was commenting on the content of her views which sounded sound.

The content can be good but if you can’t stand the voice then it’s no good. Most itv commentators annoy me too. The days of the Barry Davies and Bill McClaren are long gone sadly.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:11 am

Pearcey wrote:The content can be good but if you can’t stand the voice then it’s no good. Most itv commentators annoy me too. The days of the Barry Davies and Bill McClaren are long gone sadly.

Interesting hearing about some peoples tolerances on here and what their requirements from a commentator are.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:31 am

For balance Gabby Logan is very good and there on merit alone not because she is female and to meet some quota.

Longside4evr · Post by **Longside4evr** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:14 am

Do any other countries have woman
commentating on there national team ?
The one that did yesterday I can still hear the pitch now it just don't go some want to be men methinks

claretnproud · Post by **claretnproud** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:23 am

Blackrod wrote:For balance Gabby Logan is very good and there on merit alone not because she is female and to meet some quota.

Gabby is excellent simply because her manner is effortless and she isnt trying to impress like most of this lot who are new on the scene.But of course she doesnt commentate. I watched last night with that woman commentating. omg, her tone hardly changes whether its a goal kick, corner or goal.
fortunately some of the games you can go red button and get radio 5 live. its spoiling what should be a brilliant sporting experience.

edison · Post by **edison** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:25 am

"its spoiling what should be a brilliant sporting experience"

I find that with commentary full-stop. It'd be great if there was a red button option to switch the commentary off and only have the sound of the crowd.

Guich · Post by **Guich** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:48 am

I like Alex Scott and it makes sense to have a woman on the pundit panel, when probably at least 10 per cent of watchers are women.

Girls who really like footy watch the mans game, whereas the women's game is a good vehicle to get more girls playing sport, tackling obesity etc.

Alex Scott has transcended the two and that's great.

But I bet the ITV blokes are crapping themselves if they land on the same panel as that lawyer though, the one who got the England ladies' manager sacked for making a bad joke about ebola. Though I suppose the likes of Gary Neville and Roy Keane won't give a toss.

Not sure the girls commentating on footy works yet - whereas Ebony on TMS cricket is excellent.

It's all a kind of progress, and easier when you have someone like Alex Scott who looks like a good laugh (as well as being fit).

So, on balance, I say girls in!

And Vive la Difference!

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:51 am

Yes I agree with your comments about Alex Scott.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:00 am

Blackrod wrote:For balance Gabby Logan is very good and there on merit alone not because she is female and to meet some quota.

Why can't you accept that of any other women though?

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:22 am

We have gone from no female pundits to a lot on no time at all. Why ? It's is agenda driven and to make sure they are seen to be doing the right thing. Should there be male pundits commentating on the female World Cup? Not necessarily. Is anyone going to be upset if they don't ? No. If we continue like this it will soon be sexist to have male and female teams.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:32 am

Blackrod wrote:We have gone from no female pundits to a lot on no time at all. Why ? It's is agenda driven and to make sure they are seen to be doing the right thing. Should there be male pundits commentating on the female World Cup? Not necessarily. Is anyone going to be upset if they don't ? No. If we continue like this it will soon be sexist to have male and female teams.

“We have gone from no female pundits to a lot on no time at all” it will equal it’s self out I’m sure so patience is required until then.

Foshiznik · Post by **Foshiznik** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:08 pm

I swear BBC have someone who doesn't like football as the casting manager for pundits. How Phil Neville and Martin Keown still have jobs with them, I will never know.

claretnproud · Post by **claretnproud** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:16 pm

Foshiznik wrote:I swear BBC have someone who doesn't like football as the casting manager for pundits. How Phil Neville and Martin Keown still have jobs with them, I will never know.

I think both neville brothers are fine. not quite sure what larsson adds to a show. for gods sake, cheer up man.