Progress on the new corner stands?

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:15 am

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:Actually, it’s excellent to see supporters who are showing total solidarity with the plight of our disabled fans.

We’ve been campaigning for years for better facilities. We endure snow, rain and sub zero temperatures to watch Burnley without proper cover.

Some of our members endure great physical pain to get to games in these conditions and the club have made promises which have been broken.

But, aside from the above, their silence regarding progress and where we’ll be seated, in as soon as just over a week, is terrible.

Yes, agree that perhaps communication with supporter's groups etc. could be better.
The silver lining is that ultimately the facilities for disabled fans will be superb, even if it will miss the start of the season.
Hopefully proper interim provisions will be made!

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:23 am

That work is going on elsewhere within the stadium, and might not be suffering from delays, is totally irrelevant.

The only valid claim appears to be a lack of communication.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:33 am

Someone off here should have a mozy on down there today and ask one of the hairy arsed builders what's happening,maybe one of them will know.

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:32 am

ZizkovClaret wrote:Institutional incompetence will do that to a customer base tbh

You know, the delay directly hits me financially, and I’m not angry.

Dressinggown · Post by **Dressinggown** » Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:56 pm

A dozen or so workers turned up a couple of weeks ago to replace the Canopy over the main entrance on Harry Potts Way. Plenty of refurbishment going on indoors also.

Little to be seen on the corner builds.

The Enclosure · Post by **The Enclosure** » Thu Jul 26, 2018 5:22 am

Steve1956 wrote:Someone off here should have a mozy on down there today and ask one of the hairy arsed builders what's happening,maybe one of them will know.

Good luck finding one.

CharlieinNewMexico · Post by **CharlieinNewMexico** » Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:35 am

Steve1956 wrote:Someone off here should have a mozy on down there today and ask one of the hairy arsed builders what's happening,maybe one of them will know.

Leave the women out of this

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:23 pm

Heard last night that when the Longside and Bee Hole got demolished they buried all the Asbestos (presume roof sheets) in the ground. When they started putting the footings in disturbed it all.
Could be a lengthy and expensive job disposing of it correctly.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:37 pm

If there is any truth in that, I wouldn’t be surprised if there was some action taken.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:39 pm

That would make more sense than us “discovering” the old pit that we all know is there

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:51 pm

It's a common practice to landfill footings with what's been demolished. 1995 might of been before big deals were made about the safe removal of Asbestos though.
Is that company still going? They were from Lincoln weren't they.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:53 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:It's a common practice to landfill footings with what's been demolished. 1995 might of been before big deals were made about the safe removal of Asbestos though.
Is that company still going? They were from Lincoln weren't they.

Linpave

Looking at Companies House, they dissolved in 2014

claretsforever · Post by **claretsforever** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:08 pm

they a 10 min video on claret player about the update in ground with where there are up to with all the work and it include what happening with disabled stands saying they should be ready by november

claret10 · Post by **claret10** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:11 pm

Just watched the video...you would think if there was any imminent (next 5 years or so) plans to do anything with the CFS then they wouldn't be doing so much underneath.

Between the extra corporate space in the BL and disabled area in the JML looks like we will be losing a few seats.....assuming the season ticket holders affected have been relocated?

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:25 pm

Didnt Mike Garlick say they'd look at the CFS again in 2 years ?

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:58 pm

If it is buried asbestos it should be the least dangerous sort cement bound corrugated sheeting. Somehow though I doubt it will have been used as a backfill .

Steddyman · Post by **Steddyman** » Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:39 pm

I was on the match today and all there was in either corner of the JMU was a big hole.

I took this picture of where the big screen should be. There is no way any of this will be in place for the start of the season.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:44 pm

Where is the big screen going to go ?

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:49 pm

Blackrod wrote:Where is the big screen going to go ?

on the roof of the corner stand when its finally built.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:56 pm

Blackrod wrote:Where is the big screen going to go ?

Going to be two - one in the same corner but no definite decision on where the second one will be

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:01 pm

Blackrod wrote:Where is the big screen going to go ?

probably in the car park judging by the levels of professionalism from our club of late

The Enclosure · Post by **The Enclosure** » Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:29 pm

Somewhere above the players entrance would be a good location for the second screen.
Although it may block the view of those who want to keep an eye on the cricket matches.

bodge · Post by **bodge** » Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:51 pm

It's 3 months behind schedule according to the article on the official site, they are looking at November, the steel work will start to go up soon.

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:57 pm

Steddyman wrote:I was on the match today and all there was in either corner of the JMU was a big hole.

I took this picture of where the big screen should be. There is no way any of this will be in place for the start of the season.

As can be seen, the excavation for the new facilities between the James Hargreaves/Jimmy McIlroy Stand unearthed a series of stone pillars, the origins of which were initially uncertain. There was a delay of just over a week before the relevent Government Dept. could arrange the appropriate " experts " to visit the site.
After taking core samples, and a small discreet section of one of the 13 pillars away for analysis, they narrowed it down to it either being the original foundations to the Bee-hole pit's Winding wheel which were left after pit closed around 1904, or the remains of Turf Moor's first ever " Dry powder store ", built by Bob Lord in the early 1950's. The sturdy foundations were necessary to house the vast weight of shillings and two-bob pieces that Mr Lord accrued from the large attendances, whilst paying the £20pw/£50pw Maximum wage of the time. A remarkedly well preserved " Safe-Lock " was also discovered, and an expert Locksmith confirmed that the combination was set to 34-26-36, believed to be Mrs Lord's " vital statistics " at the time of their nuptuals !!

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Sun Jul 29, 2018 7:05 pm

We've had confirmation from the club that disabled fans will be housed on a temporary platform until completion of the new area.

Our supporters club chairman will be assessing the platform with the club this week with regards to it's suitability, with view to us potentially missing every game until the new works are finished, if it's not.

Steddyman · Post by **Steddyman** » Sun Jul 29, 2018 7:22 pm

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:We've had confirmation from the club that disabled fans will be housed on a temporary platform until completion of the new area.

Our supporters club chairman will be assessing the platform with the club this week with regards to it's suitability, with view to us potentially missing every game until the new works are finished, if it's not.

That's not fair. At the very least disabled fans should be given access to the corporate boxes (if access is available) if they cannot have the seats they were promised.

Goody1975 · Post by **Goody1975** » Sun Jul 29, 2018 7:36 pm

Why didn't the club know about the mining pillars when the whole area was developed in 1995?

Surely that area was excavated when the foundations were put in, or were they just covered up again in the hope it didn't matter?

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Sun Jul 29, 2018 7:52 pm

Steddyman wrote:That's not fair. At the very least disabled fans should be given access to the corporate boxes (if access is available) if they cannot have the seats they were promised.

We had hoped that they may of made this concession but unfortunately, that's not the case.

Until less than a week ago, the ticket office were still insisting that we'd be sitting in our original seats. (The ones attached to the demolished police box).

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Sun Jul 29, 2018 8:41 pm

Steddyman wrote:That's not fair. At the very least disabled fans should be given access to the corporate boxes (if access is available) if they cannot have the seats they were promised.

I assume there are lifts up to said corporate boxes? Otherwise it would be a non.starter anyway.

Wokingclaret · Post by **Wokingclaret** » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:51 pm

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:We had hoped that they may of made this concession but unfortunately, that's not the case.

Until less than a week ago, the ticket office were still insisting that we'd be sitting in our original seats. (The ones attached to the demolished police box).

Oh, Looking at the vidoe review of the game, they have put temp seating there for you, so they are correct

Alanstevensonsgloves · Post by **Alanstevensonsgloves** » Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:21 pm

Not being a builder my knowledge is limited, but surely having looked at that picture it is obvious why work seems to have stalled... none of the builders can get into the site office to find out what needs to be done??

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:52 am

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:We had hoped that they may of made this concession but unfortunately, that's not the case.

Until less than a week ago, the ticket office were still insisting that we'd be sitting in our original seats. (The ones attached to the demolished police box).

What seats are those, don’t ever recall seeing any seats attached to the police box?

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:14 am

Must be the same guys working on the M6 upgrades
They dig things up then do a disappearing act for months.With Barnfield running the work I thought it would be finished by now.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:35 am

I should think modern building regs are behind the delay. Everything had to be signed off nowadays. It's hardly the fault of the club, they're as much a prisoner to them as the disabled are. It does sound as though there is now light at the end of the tunnel though, so hopefully we will be able to see the progress ourselves over the next couple of months.

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:51 am

DCWat wrote:What seats are those, don’t ever recall seeing any seats attached to the police box?

There were 4 seats attached to the police box, 2 are season tickets.

1 of those is myself and my grandfather, the other belongs to Joe Skinner, one of our members who you may recognise from his close friendship with Danny Ings and various club promotional photographs.

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:54 am

chekhov wrote:I assume there are lifts up to said corporate boxes? Otherwise it would be a non.starter anyway.

Yes, our members attend the supporters club awards in that JH suite.

yorkyclaret · Post by **yorkyclaret** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:04 am

chekhov wrote:I assume there are lifts up to said corporate boxes? Otherwise it would be a non.starter anyway.

Would also need to be means of evacuation for the disabled in the event of a fire making any lifts unusable.

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:25 am

DCWat wrote:What seats are those, don’t ever recall seeing any seats attached to the police box?

There was always a wooden step ladder available if that helps.

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:31 am

Personally I think it’s fantastic what the club is doing for disabled fans.As a kid I used to be taken around by my Grandad to countless “ sport for all” events and he was a tireless campaigner for disabled sport . But to hear some of the moaning and groaning on here you’d think Dame Tani Grey was hanging above the Jimmy Mac on a crane !

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:32 am

Silkyskills1 wrote:There was always a wooden step ladder available if that helps.

Now we know why Peter Crouch is being signed up.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:40 am

Steddyman wrote:That's not fair. At the very least disabled fans should be given access to the corporate boxes (if access is available) if they cannot have the seats they were promised.

Which corporate fans paying 30 grand a year for a box do you think should be kicked out?
The corporate side of things are way over subscribed.

I hope they find a solution like providing bus shelter type facilites down the side of the Bob Lord but it won't be from ousting corporate fans I'm afraid.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:18 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:The corporate side of things are way over subscribed.

A bit off topic but is the Jimmy Mac used for corporate fans now or are UCFB still in there?

MarkGreen · Post by **MarkGreen** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:26 pm

aggi wrote:A bit off topic but is the Jimmy Mac used for corporate fans now or are UCFB still in there?

I will happily accept that I am wrong if someone knows the facts, but I think the UCFB left Burnley a while ago.

A lass I know had to commute to the Etihad after being moved from the Burnley based campus.

EDIT: I checked online and they still have Burnley down as a location for the university, in that case I may well be wrong with the above statement (Although the girl was relocated).

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:36 pm

aggi wrote:A bit off topic but is the Jimmy Mac used for corporate fans now or are UCFB still in there?

I don't think so, they moved out.

TsarBomba · Post by **TsarBomba** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:41 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:Personally I think it’s fantastic what the club is doing for disabled fans.As a kid I used to be taken around by my Grandad to countless “ sport for all” events and he was a tireless campaigner for disabled sport . But to hear some of the moaning and groaning on here you’d think Dame Tani Grey was hanging above the Jimmy Mac on a crane !

Improved disabled provisions are being implemented and driven by the Premier League through the accessible stadia guide. It’s not a BFC initiative.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:51 pm

aggi wrote:A bit off topic but is the Jimmy Mac used for corporate fans now or are UCFB still in there?

As mentioned by others UCFB have moved out but "BFC in the Community" are now in there

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:21 pm

Cheers. So they're still not used as corporate spaces? Wonder if it's a lack of demand or what in that case.

Spike · Post by **Spike** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:26 pm

Goody1975 wrote:Why didn't the club know about the mining pillars when the whole area was developed in 1995?

Surely that area was excavated when the foundations were put in, or were they just covered up again in the hope it didn't matter?

Shockingly bad service from the builders who everyone says is Barnfield. Before they took on the contract they should have and indeed had a duty to do surveys. The lack of urgency is appalling .they have let everyone down Big Time

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:03 pm

TsarBomba wrote:Improved disabled provisions are being implemented and driven by the Premier League through the accessible stadia guide. It’s not a BFC initiative.

They’re not doing it because they wanted to. They’re being forced to due to the Premier League’s new accessible stadia standards.

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:04 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:Which corporate fans paying 30 grand a year for a box do you think should be kicked out?
The corporate side of things are way over subscribed.

I hope they find a solution like providing bus shelter type facilites down the side of the Bob Lord but it won't be from ousting corporate fans I'm afraid.

False.

There’s one box that’s always set aside for club use. It’s the last one closest to the Jimmy McIlroy.