Progress on the new corner stands?
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I can only imagine how the Arsenal fans who stood on the clock end felt. They had to turn around (risking a stiff neck) to see how long was left. They must have been furious.
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1966 Sheffield Wednesday had a big screen..amazing when you think about it how long ago.in 2015 spent a six figure sum on one!dsr wrote:Man United had an early electronic scoreboard, but it was just moving words scrolling along a narrow strip. No pictures.
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I know that they are beginning to make progress again now though.
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They are much more value for money now. I believe the unit price of Burnley's two new screens cost less than the original one. Technology allows them to be light too. Some grounds have them installed onto the inside of the stands now. It's mental.tim_noone wrote:1966 Sheffield Wednesday had a big screen..amazing when you think about it how long ago.in 2015 spent a six figure sum on one!
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So called 'supporters' like that are certainly not welcome and the club is far better off without them!NL Claret wrote:This complaint is on a different level, even included the PL in the tweet saying they should fine the club he "supports". Different level.
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Den_Perry wrote:I've heard the delays were caused by 3 separate issues (any one of which would generally incur a big delay on site progress; all 3 at the same time would be a complete nightmare to deal with):
1) hit an old water main they didn't know was there (presume this was the reason for the recent road/water main works on Harry Potts Way)
2) found traces of gas from old mine workings (should have checked for this when they built the 2 stands; perhaps this was a new build-up of gas in the period since the 2 stands were constructed)
3) found some ACMs (asbestos containing materials) which appeared to have been dumped/buried from the previous stand works
4) An astonishing amount of power cabling between the BLS and JMS where little or no planning appears to have been undertaken when it was being laid
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That's reassuring for people who will benefit from sitting there. I guess it just looks like the view is limited from the angle of the drawing. I've always sat/stood pretty centrally in all the four stands so cannot comment on the corners. It just looks set back and views obstructed by the sides of the other stands, but could just be me. Probably istim_noone wrote:We/I sit right in the corner lower jmac.ajacent to it and have a great view of the games being played...elevated it will be great I would think.
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Preston’s is inside the stand, it definitely isn’t light though.claptrappers_union wrote:They are much more value for money now. I believe the unit price of Burnley's two new screens cost less than the original one. Technology allows them to be light too. Some grounds have them installed onto the inside of the stands now. It's mental.
Spurs old ones at White Hart Lane were also built into the stands and won’t have been light.
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Been in the cfs twice this season for the European games...very very poor view of the goal.excellent from the angle of the jmac lower even when folk standing.Wisswosswass wrote:That's reassuring for people who will benefit from sitting there. I guess it just looks like the view is limited from the angle of the drawing. I've always sat/stood pretty centrally in all the four stands so cannot comment on the corners. It just looks set back and views obstructed by the sides of the other stands, but could just be me. Probably is
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I mean stuck to the inside windowy bitsdeanothedino wrote:Preston’s is inside the stand, it definitely isn’t light though.
Spurs old ones at White Hart Lane were also built into the stands and won’t have been light.
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I'm not knocking it. I think the best view I have ever had of the game was from the Bob Lord stand. I'm just seeing the proposed stand add-on's and hoping they're satisfactory.tim_noone wrote:Been in the cfs twice this season for the European games...very very poor view of the goal.excellent from the angle of the jmac lower even when folk standing.
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Saw from a distance today - on a train going towards Tod - but looked as though there was a crane in the corner between the Longside & Jimmy Mac.
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It was a heronClaretTony wrote:Saw from a distance today - on a train going towards Tod - but looked as though there was a crane in the corner between the Longside & Jimmy Mac.
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Oh what a lark.bfcjg wrote:It was a heron
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I was at the club this morning, the North Stand Car park has been completely fenced off now.
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Don't make a tit of yourselfGoobs wrote:Oh what a lark.
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I sat right next to the screen at Newcastle but the extreme vertigo prevented me from looking.
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I thought the same. Rounded corners would have looked better. I actually just assumed that’s what they would do.
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That’s just the skeleton of the building. I wouldnt look to much into at this stage.
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This surely must be the earliest moan about a BFC project we have ever had ! Bolts shiny enough ?Claretforever wrote:I thought the same. Rounded corners would have looked better. I actually just assumed that’s what they would do.
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Thank god for that
I miss the big screen
I miss the big screen
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I think you will find from the plans that there are none to make the exterior of the new corner infills anything other than rectangular.
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Rectangular or square buildings are far cheaper and easier to build than funny shapes.
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And when all is said and done, that sums up this project, and BFC in general!Quickenthetempo wrote:Rectangular or square buildings are far cheaper and easier to build than funny shapes.
When there's A, B, C option and a cheap option, the cheap option will be taken everytime.
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I’ll check tomorrow.bfcjg wrote:This surely must be the earliest moan about a BFC project we have ever had ! Bolts shiny enough ?
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Aahh but you can't peep round them?Spijed wrote:I'd have preferred rounded corners, not that it matters.
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I’m sure you’re always prepared to pay more for things that add absolutely no value.MACCA wrote:And when all is said and done, that sums up this project, and BFC in general!
When there's A, B, C option and a cheap option, the cheap option will be taken everytime.
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Costs more to have round things made. After ‘Herogate’ it’s quite obvious it was always going to be squared.
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Why do people pay £100 as opposed to £3 for a t shirt?Rileybobs wrote:I’m sure you’re always prepared to pay more for things that add absolutely no value.
It just looks better.
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I'm sure if you are one of our disabled supporters who have quite frankly been treated with an attitude bordering on contempt for decades you wouldn't care if it was square, round, triangular,oblong or oval you just want to get a decent view have proper toilets and be sheltered.
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Take it you don't have sky, as you can watch TV for a fraction of the price.Rileybobs wrote:I’m sure you’re always prepared to pay more for things that add absolutely no value.
Take it you walk instead of using a car as cars are more expensive to buy and run.
Take it you have only 1 set of clothes, as the others will have absolutely no added value...
In fact forget it, think you realise what a stupid comment you have just made.
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I made a stupid comment? You have just criticised the club for taking the cheap option by not rounding off the back of the structure? Admit it, you’re just desperate to criticise the club about anything. You don’t actually care about the appearance of the new structure from the car park. It reeks of desperation.MACCA wrote:Take it you don't have sky, as you can watch TV for a fraction of the price.
Take it you walk instead of using a car as cars are more expensive to buy and run.
Take it you have only 1 set of clothes, as the others will have absolutely no added value...
In fact forget it, think you realise what a stupid comment you have just made.
And every single example you’ve given above demonstrates added value.
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Try fitting skirting board to a curved wallClaretforever wrote:I thought the same. Rounded corners would have looked better. I actually just assumed that’s what they would do.
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I know. Curved bay window years ago needed many cuts. Would be a bit easier with more steel I’d imagine on the corner stands.Sutton-Claret wrote:Try fitting skirting board to a curved wall
I was only making comment on what would look better. A curved effort fitting both stands would look better.
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Seriously? If you want to go to Cardiff, say, you don't think having a car makes it easier than if you have to walk - having a car adds value, in fact?MACCA wrote:Take it you don't have sky, as you can watch TV for a fraction of the price.
Take it you walk instead of using a car as cars are more expensive to buy and run.
Take it you have only 1 set of clothes, as the others will have absolutely no added value...
In fact forget it, think you realise what a stupid comment you have just made.
I think the point was that if people are watching the match from the new stands, they won't feel their view is improved if the wall behind them is curved. Wheras if you (having failed to reach Cardiff on time) are attempting to watch the match on your ordinary TV that doesn't have Sky, might feel that Sky would have added a bit of value ...
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Maybe the shape is because it has to have a lift?
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Not criticised the club for not making the back of the structure rounded at all, voiced my opinion on the club always taking the cheaper option to do things and this was another example of doing so.Rileybobs wrote: I made a stupid comment? You have just criticised the club for taking the cheap option by not rounding off the back of the structure? Admit it, you’re just desperate to criticise the club about anything. You don’t actually care about the appearance of the new structure from the car park. It reeks of desperation.
And every single example you’ve given above demonstrates added value.
However the fact is there, that by doing it squared off it is both the cheaper option and also reduces the space inside.
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And by not rounding off the stands, you are reducing the space inside. I think the more space the better, and adds value to those using it.dsr wrote:Seriously? If you want to go to Cardiff, say, you don't think having a car makes it easier than if you have to walk - having a car adds value, in fact?
I think the point was that if people are watching the match from the new stands, they won't feel their view is improved if the wall behind them is curved. Wheras if you (having failed to reach Cardiff on time) are attempting to watch the match on your ordinary TV that doesn't have Sky, might feel that Sky would have added a bit of value ...
But that's all opinion based I suppose.
I'd certainly like some more in the CFS, I don't even go down at HT anymore.
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I’ve been in the CFS a few times in recent seasons but the lack of space is what stops me from going in there full time.MACCA wrote:I'd certainly like some more in the CFS, I don't even go down at HT anymore.
It’s bad enough with our upside down stands - large top tier with small concourse, and small bottom tier with larger concourse.
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Accident waiting to happen IMO.Claretforever wrote:I’ve been in the CFS a few times in recent seasons but the lack of space is what stops me from going in there full time.
It’s bad enough with our upside down stands - large top tier with small concourse, and small bottom tier with larger concourse.
The facilities are shocking, but I believe they are for most fans all around the ground.
In the CFS there's 2 toilets to service up to 1800 fans, with no hand drying options available most of the time.
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Funniest post ever. pmslCharlieinNewMexico wrote:Maybe the shape is because it has to have a lift?
Of course that is the answer!
You cannot fit a rectangle inside a circle!
No curved or circular buildings anywhere in the world have lifts!
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Knowing how tight out club is that won't put a lift in they'll call the stairs the physiotherapy workout unit.Wheelchair users will pull them selves up to the upper level with the upper body strenghening conditioner....a block and tackle to you and I.
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Amazing how much contempt is shown towards the club by some on here. As someone said above, some people must live pretty hollow lives when they find it so hard to derive pleasure from things. It’s pitiful how some look at the negatives of absolutely everything, not the kind of people I surround myself with in ‘the real world’.
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There’s a lot of their self loathing being projected, that’s for sure.Rileybobs wrote:Amazing how much contempt is shown towards the club by some on here. As someone said above, some people must live pretty hollow lives when they find it so hard to derive pleasure from things. It’s pitiful how some look at the negatives of absolutely everything, not the kind of people I surround myself with in ‘the real world’.
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How do you come to that conclusion?MACCA wrote:And by not rounding off the stands, you are reducing the space inside.
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Get a peice of paper, draw a circle, then try and put a square/rectangle in it, without coming out of the circle and you will see why...TheFamilyCat wrote:How do you come to that conclusion?
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Yep, because you can’t fit a circle in a square. Everyone knows that’s impossible.MACCA wrote:Get a peice of paper, draw a circle, then try and put a square/rectangle in it, without coming out of the circle and you will see why...
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You could round the corners of the square inside the same footprint and reduce the floor area. You’re not making sense. Maybe the addition would look better curved, maybe it wouldn’t. None of us will know until it’s complete and even then it would be subjective.MACCA wrote:Get a peice of paper, draw a circle, then try and put a square/rectangle in it, without coming out of the circle and you will see why...
Either way, criticising the club for taking the cheap option for building a new structure with straight edges is frankly idiotic.