Hardest Pre-Season I have done - Arfield

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:54 pm

Arfield talking out of his ass, for anybody interested....

https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/th ... ense-week/

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:56 pm

Dig at Dyche?

“It is more hands on coaching, for the past five years at Burnley the gaffer took a back step and let his assistants do it but it wasn’t as full on as Mick (Beale – First Team Coach) has not been nor Gary (McAllister) and the gaffer have been, especially in this camp here.''

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:58 pm

Usual new club bullshit. No way on earth will it be harder than it was here.

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:59 pm

"Employee says nice things about current employer" shock...

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:59 pm

Murger wrote:Usual new club bullshit. No way on earth will it be harder than it was here.

Harder does not equate to better.

CFS · Post by **CFS** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:07 pm

It might be harder or are we assuming dyche has the toughest ever pre season and every other club just walk.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:23 pm

I bet Sean Dyche will have a smile on his face reading that - as Murger posted, it's new club bullshit.

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:25 pm

Why is this even a thing?

CFS · Post by **CFS** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:33 pm

It's like when people assume top clubs like city Liverpool united don't work hard in training through the week like smaller clubs do.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:37 pm

Trippier said he thought he was fit until he went to Spurs - he said Pochetino's pre season was a different level. If Tripps said it I believe it. Dyche needs to up his game !

ClaretEngineer · Post by **ClaretEngineer** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:41 pm

CFS wrote:It's like when people assume top clubs like city Liverpool united don't work hard in training through the week like smaller clubs do.

It’s just hard for some to believe that another teams preseason can be as “legendary” as a Dyche one.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:44 pm

They’ll still get pumped by Celtic.

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:48 pm

Our fitness levels have been exemplary since Dyche arrived.

Those who haven't measured up have been shipped out (Treacy) or been persuaded to buy into the project (Defour).

COBBLE · Post by **COBBLE** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:49 pm

When you get to 29 it is harder Scott. Glad you are feeling positive because we wish you well. However to think that at your age
you are going to exceed what BFC did for you is a little unrealistic. Steve Gerrard is not on the same page as Sean Dyche.

But prove me wrong.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:52 pm

It needs to be harder at Rangers as fitness is the only thing that can help make up for how sh-ite they are.

COBBLE · Post by **COBBLE** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:52 pm

I do also think Tripps moving South, getting married around that time, and being challenged by a world class group did enable him to push on away from his comfort zone.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:54 pm

By all accounts Tripps went on the pop for a month after leaving us and came back for pre season at Spurs unfit

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:32 am

Fitness is a myth. They all work hard on fitness and run hard from the off. However, the mind provides extra resilience and commitment to a cause and that is what adds a percentage edge, which shows if the opposition has not got that same desire or collective commitment.

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:36 am

All squads are as fit as each other. We don’t have the ball much so run further to try and get it back.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:44 am

CFS wrote:It's like when people assume top clubs like city Liverpool united don't work hard in training through the week like smaller clubs do.

Not at all, but why did he mention us and Dyche? he compared us to them like we were inferior and he's stepped up a level. He had no reason to mention us or compare against us, I now hope we pull through against Aberdeen and draw the inferior Rangers in the following round so we can give them a spanking.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:48 am

Won't do em any good....they'll still get battered by Lochnagar Thistle, or whoever.

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:53 am

Vegas Claret wrote:Trippier said he thought he was fit until he went to Spurs - he said Pochetino's pre season was a different level. If Tripps said it I believe it. Dyche needs to up his game !

Oh, come on!

CFS · Post by **CFS** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 7:52 am

KRBFC wrote:Not at all, but why did he mention us and Dyche? he compared us to them like we were inferior and he's stepped up a level. He had no reason to mention us or compare against us, I now hope we pull through against Aberdeen and draw the inferior Rangers in the following round so we can give them a spanking.

To use as an example?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:06 am

I'd let Rangers fans believe this kind of thing if they want. Pre-season training at every club is very hard because all players lose a bit over the summer break.

Nice to see that Gerrard at least realises that his team have to be mega-fit to have a chance

Culmclaret · Post by **Culmclaret** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:19 am

Hardly surprising. We told him,in effect, that he was no longer good enough for Burnley and he did not get much game time in the second half of the season. This is a new start at a club that means a lot to him. He is bound to put a positive spin on it.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:19 am

Every players new team is better than his previous team.

Sutton-Claret · Post by **Sutton-Claret** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:34 am

Vegas Claret wrote:Trippier said he thought he was fit until he went to Spurs - he said Pochetino's pre season was a different level. If Tripps said it I believe it. Dyche needs to up his game !

Dyche Out!!!

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:19 am

KRBFC wrote:Dig at Dyche?

“It is more hands on coaching, for the past five years at Burnley the gaffer took a back step and let his assistants do it but it wasn’t as full on as Mick (Beale – First Team Coach) has not been nor Gary (McAllister) and the gaffer have been, especially in this camp here.''

Ive seen us train. And dyche does take a back step. And that shows how good a manager he is. He lets his specialists in each area do their thing without interfering and thinking he knows better. The sports scientists, the coaches, the physios will all do their thing. And rightly so. Dyche is the manager and theyre as much a part of his team as the players are. I would be more worried if Dyche was doing it all!

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:29 am

As said above just trying to please the new fans and employer. Its a bit of a dig though which he didn't need to make. Let's see how Rangers do this year. Im not convinced by Gerard and they are not even the 2nd best team in the SPL and are a country mile behind Celtic.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:44 am

Good to hear that he’s settled in quickly, good luck to the fella there.

Long Time Lurker · Post by **Long Time Lurker** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:55 am

We need to up the intensity of our pre-season hell week in response.

Plenty of smoke flares, live ammo and Justin Bieber played full blast on a continuous loop - really test the physical and mental fortitude of our players.

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:05 am

Flanagan came in early and put 30 cones out in just under 4 hours.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:07 pm

Blackrod wrote:As said above just trying to please the new fans and employer. Its a bit of a dig though which he didn't need to make. Let's see how Rangers do this year. Im not convinced by Gerard and they are not even the 2nd best team in the SPL and are a country mile behind Celtic.

It's absolutely a dig and a needless one, I now hope Rangers fail spectacularly.

kaptin1 · Post by **kaptin1** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:14 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Trippier said he thought he was fit until he went to Spurs - he said Pochetino's pre season was a different level. If Tripps said it I believe it. Dyche needs to up his game !

To be fair, Tripps looks a lot slimmer now than he did when he played for us.

kaptin1 · Post by **kaptin1** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:18 pm

Another point I would make is that Dyche is more of an on old school club manager with full control over everything that goes on, which means a hands on coaching approach is probably just not doable.

I would assume Gerard is much less involved in the day to day running of the club at Rangers and purely focused on the playing side, so I would expect him to be involved more in the coaching.

I don’t think Alex Ferguson spent that much time on the training pitch, but he still did a pretty good job! That’s why you employ good coaches.

harpers_perm · Post by **harpers_perm** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:32 pm

Par for the course comment.

In a couple of years when he moves to his next club, McBoggan Academicals in the Cowdenbeath Alliance he'll be saying exactly the same thing.

get stuck in tracy · Post by **get stuck in tracy** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:46 pm

Hes done bugger all for the last few months, its bound to feel hard!

The real Tup · Post by **The real Tup** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:55 pm

The huns come away with this crap all the time.

The reality is monster munch sandwiches and chipper suppers every day.

BleedingClaret · Post by **BleedingClaret** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:55 pm

It's sound like Mick & Gary might be causing a few injuries to me.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:02 pm

Ive no malice towards Scottie but hed had his time in the sun with us and now its downhill all the way.Stevie G wont last a year .

Spike · Post by **Spike** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:36 pm

Arfield will be “Glasgow fit” which means just one battered fish for your supper instead of two

Scotty will find it hard to motivate himself for a lower level of football

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:47 pm

Spike wrote:Arfield will be “Glasgow fit” which means just one battered fish for your supper instead of two

Scotty will find it hard to motivate himself for a lower level of football

Some would say it's about his level....

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:49 pm

New club stuff, nothing more to see here.

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:59 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:Ive no malice towards Scottie

That's plain to see!

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:01 pm

Scott Arfield can say and do what he wants. He's a claret legend in my book!

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:03 pm

Spike wrote:Arfield will be “Glasgow fit” which means just one battered fish for your supper instead of two

Scotty will find it hard to motivate himself for a lower level of football

I don't usually deride fellow posters, but what a load of nonsense.

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:04 pm

KRBFC wrote:Some would say it's about his level....

And even from you that's pathetic!

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:55 pm

chekhov wrote:And even from you that's pathetic!

Why is it pathetic? I said ''Some will say''

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:18 pm

KRBFC wrote:Why is it pathetic? I said ''Some will say''

Now that's pedantic. What you wrote (in my view )is pathetic. Whether you claim the opinion as your own or not is by the by.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:29 pm

chekhov wrote:Now that's pedantic. What you wrote (in my view )is pathetic. Whether you claim the opinion as your own or not is by the by.

You are telling me this because?