Danny ings to leave liverpool

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:36 am

Danny was great at the time,but life moves on,too many unknowns about his injuries,motivation,and any possible wages,not for me.

DefourFiveSix · Post by **DefourFiveSix** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:51 am

Would love him back, but sadly can't see it.

Go on then, who's Mrs did he snatch?

deanothedino · Post by **deanothedino** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:47 am

KRBFC wrote:Yeah i'd say so, the 2nd team had a massive amount of investment to assemble it though it was just tough to watch.

You found us winning the league tough to watch?

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 7:03 am

deanothedino wrote:Didn't win the league though. Only stat that matters really.

That was down to the performance of others rather than a difference in how we did.

Longsider · Post by **Longsider** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 7:26 am

Liverpool Echo saying we are favourites to sign him. As stated earlier in the thread it's an easy link for the press to make.... But you never know.

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:02 am

Ings would definitely be worth a punt on a free. He must be fully fit otherwise Liverpool would not have offered him a new deal.
Get him signed Sean, he will be hungry to play. Danny and Jay Rod could lift us to a new level if their game time is managed correctly with our European campaign

SussexDon1inIreland · Post by **SussexDon1inIreland** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:09 am

Whatever Mr (Super) Sean Dyche thinks is fine for me

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boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:12 am

Are we the club most obsessed with re-signing ex players?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:22 am

Nope, that would be the clubs in the city he is leaving. Or Man United.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:25 am

tiger76 wrote:Danny was great at the time,but life moves on,too many unknowns about his injuries,motivation,and any possible wages,not for me.

This.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:39 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:Nope, that would be the clubs in the city he is leaving. Or Man United.

Really, I'm sorry but I can't think of any from Liverpool or ManUtd at present, but I don't know much about them.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:46 am

Top Claret wrote:Ings would definitely be worth a punt on a free. He must be fully fit otherwise Liverpool would not have offered him a new deal.
Get him signed Sean, he will be hungry to play. Danny and Jay Rod could lift us to a new level if their game time is managed correctly with our European campaign

He is fit today but a stiff breeze and he’s injured again.
Good player but body not up to the rigours of modern football.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:08 am

Top Claret wrote:Ings would definitely be worth a punt on a free. He must be fully fit otherwise Liverpool would not have offered him a new deal.
Get him signed Sean, he will be hungry to play. Danny and Jay Rod could lift us to a new level if their game time is managed correctly with our European campaign

And where would Chris Wood fit in?

18 million pound striker resigned to the bench after one season?

Utter madness if we got both Ings and Jay-Rod.

Hbclaret007 · Post by **Hbclaret007** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:23 am

KRBFC wrote:I think we were a better side with Ings and Vokes, despite Tall Paul's facts about Gray providing more assists than Ings, I see what you mean, Ings' press from the front was a big factor in our success. We were an awful footballing side with Gray in both leagues, proper horrible side, the worst i've seen.

You can't have been watching Burnley long if these were the worst, proper horrible footballing sides you've seen!

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:30 am

Spijed wrote:And where would Chris Wood fit in?
18 million pound striker resigned to the bench after one season?
Utter madness if we got both Ings and Jay-Rod.

Wood is far better than Ings and Jay Rod. If he hadn't been injured, he would have scored 18-20 goals this last season.

Socrates · Post by **Socrates** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:31 am

KRBFC wrote:I think we were a better side with Ings and Vokes, despite Tall Paul's facts about Gray providing more assists than Ings, I see what you mean, Ings' press from the front was a big factor in our success. We were an awful footballing side with Gray in both leagues, proper horrible side, the worst i've seen.

I presume you didn’t watch us under Cotterill then?

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:34 am

boatshed bill wrote:Really, I'm sorry but I can't think of any from Liverpool or ManUtd at present, but I don't know much about them.

Pogba for a start and at a massive fee too

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:40 am

Dyched wrote:The thing is after Firmino, Liverpool have nobody of note. I wouldn’t look to deep into the Klopp wants him business. He hasn’t really got over the injuries and Sturidge hasn’t either.

Wages wouldn’t be a problem. He went to Liverpool on a high, hardly played any football whatsoever and can’t possibly expect to be paid what he his now.

Oh I would say Mane is noteworthy

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:43 am

Stayingup wrote:Oh I would say Mane is noteworthy

Salah isn't bad either.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:54 am

LoveCurryPies wrote:Wood is far better than Ings and Jay Rod. If he hadn't been injured, he would have scored 18-20 goals this last season.

So we play Ings when Wood is injured and Wood when Ings is injured, with Rodriguez and Austin on the bench for when they're both injured. But we'd better keep Barnes and Vokes for when they're all injured.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:32 am

Socrates wrote:I presume you didn’t watch us under Cotterill then?

Yeah I did but he gets a pass given the financial situation and the players we had, he was forced to use MIchael Duff upfront. I still think we played better football under Cotterill than under Dyche when Gray was here.

claret wizard · Post by **claret wizard** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:39 am

KRBFC wrote:I still think we played better football under Cotterill than under Dyche when Gray was here.

You're now blocked off that statement alone.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:40 am

dsr wrote:So we play Ings when Wood is injured and Wood when Ings is injured, with Rodriguez and Austin on the bench for when they're both injured. But we'd better keep Barnes and Vokes for when they're all injured.

Hang on !

Where does Nahki Wells fit in to all this

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:09 pm

jojomk1 wrote:Hang on !

Where does Nahki Wells fit in to all this

He’s here for when the treatment table is neglected

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:11 pm

Stayingup wrote:Oh I would say Mane is noteworthy

Not as a central forward neither is Salah. Why would they move Mane/Salah to the middle when Firmino is out? You lose what their both great at and basically weakening the forward line in 2 places rather than 1

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:36 pm

7/2 now to sign

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:57 pm

dsr wrote:So we play Ings when Wood is injured and Wood when Ings is injured, with Rodriguez and Austin on the bench for when they're both injured. But we'd better keep Barnes and Vokes for when they're all injured.

The last time I looked, we don't have Austin, Rodriguez or Ings.

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:01 pm

Longsider wrote:Liverpool Echo saying we are favourites to sign him. As stated earlier in the thread it's an easy link for the press to make.... But you never know.

Just read it's £5 million fee.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:12 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:7/2 now to sign

Odds which suggest they have made up a market based on pure conjecture and he could be going anywhere

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:15 pm

TVC15 wrote:Odds which suggest they have made up a market based on pure conjecture and he could be going anywhere

I know im just posting what i have seen . I wouldnt be suprised to see him ending up at rangers

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:23 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:I know im just posting what i have seen . I wouldnt be suprised to see him ending up at rangers

I would. He is a damn site better than that league and I am sure there will be someone in our league (possibly 4/5 teams) that would be seriously interested in taking a chance on him.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:46 pm

Goobs wrote:I would. He is a damn site better than that league and I am sure there will be someone in our league (possibly 4/5 teams) that would be seriously interested in taking a chance on him.

is he though? or are we still talking about the Danny Ings of 5 years ago in the 1 Championship season?

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:48 pm

jojomk1 wrote:Hang on !

Where does Nahki Wells fit in to all this

He plays when they are all injured.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:51 pm

What is pleasing to note is that he is making this decision for footballing matters only
Liverpool were prepared to offer him a new, extended contract (no doubt on good money which would have secured his future) but he has shown faith in his own ability to ask for this move and that has to be applauded
A small fee to Liverpool plus add-ons for appearances would be the way to go for me ( his own contract could be made up in a similar sort of way)

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:55 pm

jojomk1 wrote:What is pleasing to note is that he is making this decision for footballing matters only
Liverpool were prepared to offer him a new, extended contract (no doubt on good money which would have secured his future) but he has shown faith in his own ability to ask for this move and that has to be applauded
A small fee to Liverpool plus add-ons for appearances would be the way to go for me ( his own contract could be made up in a similar sort of way)

Three years on Liverpool wages will have already secured his future. What's he earned - £5m after tax? If he hasn't already got a pension pot bigger than what few of us can dream of, then he's a fool.

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:56 pm

Given his injury problems since he left (he seems to be the classic 'croc') I am uncertain as to exactly why we would be interested. Danny Ings of 4/5 years ago was fabulous and I would have that one back in a heartbeat, but the Danny Ings of 2018? Even at the relatively low figure of 5m I'm not so sure. Don't forget it's not just the 5m, he won't come back for peanuts and that's a lot of peanuts for someone who might hardly play. The medical would have to be very in-depth and serious. However let's see what the bold Mr Dyche decides (although as good as he is he's not a doctor or a physio).

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:57 pm

KRBFC wrote:is he though? or are we still talking about the Danny Ings of 5 years ago in the 1 Championship season?

Looked good in the limited minutes I saw him play for Liverpool this season and I have no doubt in my mind he would improve us in the number 10 role.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:57 pm

mdd2 wrote:EH at Bmouth

Of course I had forgotten about them.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:04 pm

dsr wrote:Three years on Liverpool wages will have already secured his future. What's he earned - £5m after tax? If he hasn't already got a pension pot bigger than what few of us can dream of, then he's a fool.

Some people would also call him a fool for not taking the option of a further contract on those wages (something which he is prepared to forgo)

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:05 pm

Goobs wrote:Looked good in the limited minutes I saw him play for Liverpool this season and I have no doubt in my mind he would improve us in the number 10 role.

It's possible however I don't see how you can't have any doubt given his injury history and the limited number of minutes he's played since leaving us.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:07 pm

jojomk1 wrote:Some people would also call him a fool for not taking the option of a further contract on those wages (something which he is prepared to forgo)

Someone who is starving would be a fool to turn their nose up at a 12-course banquet. For someone who's just eaten a 12-course banquet, how much pleasure would they get out of another?

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:08 pm

houseboy wrote:Given his injury problems since he left (he seems to be the classic 'croc') I am uncertain as to exactly why we would be interested. Danny Ings of 4/5 years ago was fabulous and I would have that one back in a heartbeat, but the Danny Ings of 2018? Even at the relatively low figure of 5m I'm not so sure. Don't forget it's not just the 5m, he won't come back for peanuts and that's a lot of peanuts for someone who might hardly play. The medical would have to be very in-depth and serious. However let's see what the bold Mr Dyche decides (although as good as he is he's not a doctor or a physio).

His previous injury problems are well known - and to nobody more than Liverpool FC over the last 3 years

They were prepared to offer him another contract based on their up to date knowledge

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:09 pm

You could have it bagged up to take home though,

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:09 pm

amazing how Jay Rod and Ings aren't good enough for us according to some on here. Jay has massively improved since leaving us and I would imagine Ings has got considerably better spending a season training in that Liverpool team with the movement they have. Both also have a point to prove and would be hungry - I'd like them both tbh

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:14 pm

jojomk1 wrote:Some people would also call him a fool for not taking the option of a further contract on those wages (something which he is prepared to forgo)

Absolutely I would agree with you that Danny still has the ambition in the game rather then be a reserve at Liverpool, which in this day and age is to his credit I would say.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:14 pm

dsr wrote:Someone who is starving would be a fool to turn their nose up at a 12-course banquet. For someone who's just eaten a 12-course banquet, how much pleasure would they get out of another?

Wow

That statement came right out of the blue

I'll have a pint of whatever you're on

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:16 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:amazing how Jay Rod and Ings aren't good enough for us according to some on here. Jay has massively improved since leaving us and I would imagine Ings has got considerably better spending a season training in that Liverpool team with the movement they have. Both also have a point to prove and would be hungry - I'd like them both tbh

Amazing people are so certain Ings will be anything like the same player having played about 5 games in 3 years and numerous big injuries.

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:17 pm

jojomk1 wrote:His previous injury problems are well known - and to nobody more than Liverpool FC over the last 3 years

They were prepared to offer him another contract based on their up to date knowledge

Fair point but they have far more money than we do and they wouldn't have to pay a 5m fee, they can afford to take the risk. Having said all that I would have a definitely fit Ings back for 5m.

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:47 pm

If that is the asking fee for a young striker (26 in July) I would take the risk but I expect he will get a better deal elsewhere and likely back on the South Coast with Eddie

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:57 pm

houseboy wrote:Fair point but they have far more money than we do and they wouldn't have to pay a 5m fee, they can afford to take the risk. Having said all that I would have a definitely fit Ings back for 5m.

We were happy to pay £5m for Nahki Wells when he was injured

and we've yet to see any potential on that outlay

Nobody can argue that it would be a risk to sign Ings given his recent injury record but, nobody can also argue that he was the top man when playing with us

We have seen with our own eyes what he had in the locker 3 years ago and I would rather we take another punt (if given the chance with a minimal fee) than see him coming back to form at another club