Aberdeen v Burnley - Ticket Information

bfcfan1882 · Post by **bfcfan1882** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:02 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:Just logged on to my account to check my points and all my linked friends & family members have disappeared

Anybody else have this problem?

Friends & Family back

Tuddybfc · Post by **Tuddybfc** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:06 pm

BensMee wrote:I have reviewed my loyalty point history as a result of the Aberdeen ticketing requirements, I have 7000+ so should be ok for Day 2, however, I have had an ST for 15 seasons so 5250 points and then a further 2500 which I would say is about right as I do 75% of away games plus cup games etc.

Reading through this thread I see people talking of points in excess of 10,000 and i wonder how have they reached these figures? By my simple reckoning if the system is now entering it’s 15th season you can have 15 x 350 plus 4 PL seasons @ 190 points/season and 10 C’ship seasons @ 230 points per season which gives you 8310 points, if you then assume say an average/season of 5 extra games cup ties/friendlies (not sure if pre-season games count) that is another 700 points so 9000 would be around the maximum.

Maybe, I’m not fully aware of how the points system works but would appreciate if anyone could enlighten me.

Buying match tickets for others when they reach general sale/for home games also gives you points, it's points per ticket rather than game. Also think friendlies do count

Tuddybfc · Post by **Tuddybfc** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:08 pm

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:Personally think they should of put a percentage on sale for just season ticket holders with no points required.

Maybe 20% and the other 80% on the system they’re using now.

But then that's 400 fans on high loyalty points missing out on the luck of the draw which could go to someone who never attends away games? The fairness of the loyalty point system as it is comes from the fact extra points on top of season tickets are mainly amassed through away games, so generally it should be those who go on the most away games who are at Aberdeen (I'm on over 6000 so may or may not get one myself)

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:10 pm

jrgbfc wrote:Why should kids get priority over people who've been putting time and money into following the club for years? Plenty of chances for people to go to away games, not sure why some people think they have the right to cherry pick tickets for the most popular games.

There will be a thousand on the ale with no tickets

BensMee · Post by **BensMee** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:11 pm

Does that not mean it is an Incentive System rather than Loyalty System?

edison · Post by **edison** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:27 pm

BensMee wrote:Does that not mean it is an Incentive System rather than Loyalty System?

Yes

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:27 pm

Tuddybfc wrote:Buying match tickets for others when they reach general sale/for home games also gives you points, it's points per ticket rather than game. Also think friendlies do count

It’s not. If you book more than one ticket for a game it is limited to 10 points. You used to get points for friendlies but that doesn’t happen now.

Barry_Chuckle · Post by **Barry_Chuckle** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:29 pm

cutsy123 wrote:There will be a thousand on the ale with no tickets

I'll be there with or without (more likely) a ticket.

This may never happen again in my lifetime!

Tuddybfc · Post by **Tuddybfc** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:44 pm

ClaretTony wrote:It’s not. If you book more than one ticket for a game it is limited to 10 points. You used to get points for friendlies but that doesn’t happen now.

Oh ok my mistake. To be on the amount of point you're on I take it you've barely missed a game home or away since the system began?

ChorltonCharlie · Post by **ChorltonCharlie** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:46 pm

jrgbfc wrote:How many games were massively oversubscribed last season? By my reckoning Manu, Huddersfield and Arsenal? Even games like Liverpool and City made it to general sale I think. The way people are talking you'd think getting a ticket for any away game is absolutely impossible. I won't get a ticket for Aberdeen despite following us home and away regularly the last 20 years and watching some absolute rubbish, but I'm not ******* and moaning about it.

Systems like this are in place for the games that are over-subscribed. It isn't about whether one person moans and another doesn't. It's about treating the clubs fans fairly and with respect, and not making genuine loyal fans into some kind of second, third, fourth, class citizen based on buying behaviour 15 years ago. Of course there needs to be some kind of priority, but there are fairer more relevant ways of doing it.

edison · Post by **edison** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:49 pm

I won't be there without a ticket. now had we drawn Derry or Coleraine I'd have driven up - but it might be a touch extravagant to book flights to drink a coke in an Aberdeen pub

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:58 pm

Barry_Chuckle wrote:I'll be there with or without (more likely) a ticket.

This may never happen again in my lifetime!

As will be our party of 8, although I'd be shocked if some, if not all get a ticket to watch the game one way or another.

I hope none of the none season ticket fans, or none Burnley fans get a ticket though, I've had my very abrupt 2 penneth.

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:01 pm

Tuddybfc wrote:But then that's 400 fans on high loyalty points missing out on the luck of the draw which could go to someone who never attends away games? The fairness of the loyalty point system as it is comes from the fact extra points on top of season tickets are mainly amassed through away games, so generally it should be those who go on the most away games who are at Aberdeen (I'm on over 6000 so may or may not get one myself)

Away games don’t really count for much, 10 points each.

You can go to every away game and you get less points for that than a season ticket, despite it costing x 3 more and taking much more of your time.

I’ve been to 2/3 of away games since 13/14 when I came home from living away and I’ve nowhere near 8,000.

It’s also the case that unpopular away games have all been added on to my Dads Clarets number instead of spreading them across all four of my families Clarets numbers.

Im sure I’ll be okay to get a ticket when we play Bournemouth again on a Wednesday night again, like last season though.

Tuddybfc · Post by **Tuddybfc** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:22 pm

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:Away games don’t really count for much, 10 points each.

You can go to every away game and you get less points for that than a season ticket, despite it costing x 3 more and taking much more of your time.

I’ve been to 2/3 of away games since 13/14 when I came home from living away and I’ve nowhere near 8,000.

It’s also the case that unpopular away games have all been added on to my Dads Clarets number instead of spreading them across all four of my families Clarets numbers.

Im sure I’ll be okay to get a ticket when we play Bournemouth again on a Wednesday night again, like last season though.

My point was that away games are the main way to amass extra loyalty points (although you're right it isn't many, I think it should be more than 10, or based on distance/time of kick off for instance) so those with the highest points will have been on many away games and had a season ticket for ma y years

edison · Post by **edison** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:24 pm

Based on distance from home? I;d be up for getting more points based on length of journey...

whentheballmoves · Post by **whentheballmoves** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:36 pm

Anybody any idea when "day 1 of sales" will be yet...can't be far off?

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:43 pm

Any idea when tickets for the home leg will be on sale?

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:52 pm

Murger wrote:Any idea when tickets for the home leg will be on sale?

"The return leg is scheduled for Thursday, 2nd August. Tickets for this game are due to go on sale on 9th July, with season ticket holders given SIX days to purchase their seat. From Monday, 16th July all seats in the stadium will be on general sale. Further details will be announced in due course."

BensMee · Post by **BensMee** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:52 pm

Ok, so you only get 10 points no matter how many tickets you purchase for a game and friendlies no longer qualify, then i still am struggling to understand how people can have reached 10,000+ points?

Are points awarded for other purchases or for Foundation Membership?

edison · Post by **edison** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:56 pm

I think "no longer qualify" is the key there - they used to, yes?

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 5:16 pm

BensMee wrote:I have reviewed my loyalty point history as a result of the Aberdeen ticketing requirements, I have 7000+ so should be ok for Day 2, however, I have had an ST for 15 seasons so 5250 points and then a further 2500 which I would say is about right as I do 75% of away games plus cup games etc.

Reading through this thread I see people talking of points in excess of 10,000 and i wonder how have they reached these figures? By my simple reckoning if the system is now entering it’s 15th season you can have 15 x 350 plus 4 PL seasons @ 190 points/season and 10 C’ship seasons @ 230 points per season which gives you 8310 points, if you then assume say an average/season of 5 extra games cup ties/friendlies (not sure if pre-season games count) that is another 700 points so 9000 would be around the maximum.

Maybe, I’m not fully aware of how the points system works but would appreciate if anyone could enlighten me.

One year at least it was 500 for a ST and there's little bonus's like Everton away last year being 50.

We didn't get them for the Sunderland FA cup away tie though.

The real Tup · Post by **The real Tup** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 5:24 pm

Dons > Clarets.

You will give us a decent game but we're well used to playing big, strong teams full of hammer throwers. Hearts for instance.

I think Burnley will underestimate Aberdeen and the Dons will triumph.

Sean Dyche's Watch · Post by **Sean Dyche's Watch** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 5:46 pm

BensMee wrote:Ok, so you only get 10 points no matter how many tickets you purchase for a game and friendlies no longer qualify, then i still am struggling to understand how people can have reached 10,000+ points?

Are points awarded for other purchases or for Foundation Membership?

There was a season where people were offered bonus points for getting a season ticket, which was more than the usual 350 points, but I can't recall how many points it was or which season it was for.

Goodclaret · Post by **Goodclaret** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:35 pm

I'm not quite sure how there can be a fairer way than the one in place? A lot of people have said "it's not on" but don't come up with a viable alternative.

Why should I (or many like me) start to lose out to people who have just started following us in the last 5 or 6 years? I've been a season ticket holder for 28 years and been to many games away every season. What would then be fair about someone supporting us for the last few years and then getting a ticket ahead of me? I understand the "pain" of not catching up for younger fans but, as long as they keep getting a season ticket and travelling away, they will move up the ladder.

At the end of the day, if you have over 8,000 points then you should get first dibs at games like this. We also have to look at this and think how many times we are in such a position when demand is so far above supply?

Bones · Post by **Bones** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:57 pm

Sean Dyche's Watch wrote:There was a season where people were offered bonus points for getting a season ticket, which was more than the usual 350 points, but I can't recall how many points it was or which season it was for.

I remember getting 1000 loyalty points for purchasing a season ticket during an extended early bird period years ago.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:15 pm

Six pages and counting....

Anyone else starting to think this whole “European” thing might just be the most over hyped and potentially mismanaged load of complete ******** that’s happened to our club, ever?

Never mind tho... we can always play the “eufa regulations” card...

Jimmymaccer · Post by **Jimmymaccer** » Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:37 am

I think it should be like the old days ......pay on’t gate...........

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:54 am

There should be a certain number of tickets set aside for u18, with a lower points threshold. Or a number of tickets set aside for families.

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:02 am

claretandy wrote:There should be a certain number of tickets set aside for u18, with a lower points threshold. Or a number of tickets set aside for families.

This.

My Dad has 7800 and little brother has 5200.

Means they would’ve been able to go together, as it should be.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:47 pm

I’ve removed some posts from this thread having been alerted to something that related to supporters clubs and tickets. It had apparently come from Facebook. It has now been removed from there as it was an apparent wind up and had no truth to it.

paulatky · Post by **paulatky** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:23 am

Fairest way is to sell by price
£1,000 day one
£800 day two
£600 day three
etc

Until they are gone.

Fairest way as then everyone has a chance to get one.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:35 am

paulatky wrote:Fairest way is to sell by price
£1,000 day one
£800 day two
£600 day three
etc

Until they are gone.

Fairest way as then everyone has a chance to get one.

You forgot a raft of smilies

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:00 am

paulatky wrote:Fairest way is to sell by price
£1,000 day one
£800 day two
£600 day three
etc

Until they are gone.

Fairest way as then everyone has a chance to get one.

It's already enough of a Tory elite system.

Dy1geo · Post by **Dy1geo** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 12:01 pm

paulatky wrote:Fairest way is to sell by price
£1,000 day one
£800 day two
£600 day three
etc

Until they are gone.

Fairest way as then everyone has a chance to get one.

To be honest that system will sort out the real fans, none of this I was at the Hereford game, no it would be a straight forward are you prepared to put your money down on the line to watch the team.

northeastclaret · Post by **northeastclaret** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:10 pm

Dy1geo wrote:To be honest that system will sort out the real fans, none of this I was at the Hereford game, no it would be a straight forward are you prepared to put your money down on the line to watch the team.

Those that have the most points already have

whentheballmoves · Post by **whentheballmoves** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:19 pm

Do we know the day of sales starting yet?!

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:58 pm

whentheballmoves wrote:Do we know the day of sales starting yet?!

No. Awaiting the tickets from Aberdeen.

KeighleyClaret · Post by **KeighleyClaret** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:58 am

I have 7600 points and I'm also a Foundation member. My lad has 6200 points although we go to the same games together. It seems its me who buys the extra tickets. So I can get a Foundation ticket for myself on day 1 (maybe), my ticket on day 2 and possibly his ticket on Day 3. However the first 2 tickets will be in my name so he won't be able to use either of them, apparently, so I'll have a spare I cannot use.

Looks like the only way we can sit / stand together is to wait till day 3 and hope there are tickets left. Thats despite my 7600 points and the Foundation membership. I'm seriously considering if the Foundation membership is of any value in this situation, having been a member from Day 1.

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:09 pm

10 days since the draw. No either/or in the draw. Club based in the same country, both clubs play in the other's country reasonably often. No language barrier. Travel easy - no passports let alone visas. But... ticket sale dates not yet agreed.

Next round (if we get through). 4-way either/or draw 17 days before first leg. Certainty of who we play 7 days before first leg. Could be anywhere from Reykjavik to Yerevan to Turf Moor.

Could be interesting.

Croydon Claret · Post by **Croydon Claret** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:01 pm

And all the time travel costs are increasing for those who want to make sure they have a ticket before booking anything

Yearofthefox · Post by **Yearofthefox** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:06 pm

I've had season tickets since I was 15 except for 4 years due to finances with living alone... around the time the points system came into place.. I've lost out of nearly 2000 points, but I still think its the fairest system to be honest, I could wait til day three but it's travel prices putting me off now.

Shappie · Post by **Shappie** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:08 pm

Croydon Claret wrote:And all the time travel costs are increasing for those who want to make sure they have a ticket before booking anything

What is increasing ? Air fares or hotels ?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:17 pm

thatdberight wrote:10 days since the draw. No either/or in the draw. Club based in the same country, both clubs play in the other's country reasonably often. No language barrier. Travel easy - no passports let alone visas. But... ticket sale dates not yet agreed.

Already been explained. The reason there are no sale dates yet is because we’ve had no confirmation from Aberdeen as to when we might receive the tickets.

We’ve already sorted them out for the second leg which is why they have been able to confirm sale dates.

I believe we wanted the ticket sales to have already started. This delay is certainly not our club’s fault.

dpinsussex · Post by **dpinsussex** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:17 pm

I had a season ticket for many years and travelled to a huge number of away gamesbefore I moved away from the area.i have booked flights and accommodation but accept I will be one of the thousands in aberdeen having a couple of cheeky ales. Such a shame but that's life. Still can't wait for it though

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:19 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Already been explained. The reason there are no sale dates yet is because we’ve had no confirmation from Aberdeen as to when we might receive the tickets.

We’ve already sorted them out for the second leg because we’ve sorted out their tickets in the cricket field stand.

I believe we wanted the ticket sales to have already started. This delay is certainly not our club’s fault.

It wasn't a criticism of Burnley. It was just an observation.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:21 pm

thatdberight wrote:It wasn't a criticism of Burnley. It was just an observation.

It was clearly being critical. I was merely re-confirming that we can’t sell the tickets yet because we don’t have them.

bfcmik · Post by **bfcmik** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:29 pm

Yearofthefox wrote:I've had season tickets since I was 15 except for 4 years due to finances with living alone... around the time the points system came into place.. I've lost out of nearly 2000 points, but I still think its the fairest system to be honest, I could wait til day three but it's travel prices putting me off now.

Just what us train/hotel booked but not enough points people are hoping for

May there be many of similar mind

paulatky · Post by **paulatky** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:43 pm

Great attitude,dpinsussecx.

G0foste · Post by **G0foste** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:52 pm

The foundation isn’t getting allocated any tickets for any uefa cup matches.

Gutted as we wouldn’t be going and seems unfair to introduce a different process for UEFA matches.

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:03 pm

ClaretTony wrote:It was clearly being critical.

Only if you start with that assumption. It was entirely factual and neither levelled criticism at nor assigned responsibility to any individual or organisation.