Aberdeen v Burnley - Ticket Information

Sean Dyche's Watch · Post by **Sean Dyche's Watch** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:57 pm

Passport with matching address of clarets number is one form of ID required, but i didn't think passports have addresses in them?

Foulthrow · Post by **Foulthrow** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:57 pm

I’ve had a season ticket throughout the period of loyalty points but have been to hardly any away games. I have 6500 points

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:01 pm

I've passed on a couple of issues to the club that have been highlighted on this thread.

1. Someone having neither a passport or a driving licence
2. Friends and family disappearing.

If there are any more general queries that you think I should pass on, can you ensure you quote this post so I will see them in notifications and not miss them.

Claretforshaw · Post by **Claretforshaw** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:01 pm

I am not sure whether this has been mentioned but could it be screened at Turf Moor?

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:02 pm

The points system is fine but increasing the thresholds is totally wrong.

It should have been kept at 5000 then each year more people, including kids, become eligible for the first round of tickets.

It needs to be an inclusive system rather than exclusive, whilst still rewarding those with the most 'loyalty'.

Bumping it up to 8k is a joke.

Sean Dyche's Watch · Post by **Sean Dyche's Watch** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:02 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I've passed on a couple of issues to the club that have been highlighted on this thread.

1. Someone having neither a passport or a driving licence
2. Friends and family disappearing.

If there are any more general queries that you think I should pass on, can you ensure you quote this post so I will see them in notifications and not miss them.

Passport with matching address of clarets number is one form of ID required, but i didn't think passports have addresses in them?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:02 pm

Sean Dyche's Watch wrote:Passport with matching address of clarets number is one form of ID required, but i didn't think passports have addresses in them?

It's passport or driving licence with matching address, the address relating to the driving licence.

claretrobo1 · Post by **claretrobo1** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:05 pm

I’m 16 and got 6180, with me being a season ticket holder since 08/09 and I go to a lot of away games, hence the high total for my age. For this reason I can’t help but feel the system is seriously flawed as it is extremely extremely unlikely anyone under the age of 20 will have 8000+. Talk about telling the younger generation to p*ss off...

I guess we’ll have to be in Europe in another ten years

paulatky · Post by **paulatky** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:09 pm

A ticketing focus group was set up 18 months ,consisting of about 25 people,from apparently all cross sections of supporters.
Guess they have considered all options and decided to stick with the loyalty points system.
Not perfect ,but no system will please everyone.
Out of interest is any on here a member of that ticketing focus group

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:09 pm

I think the people with 6000 have got a decent chance. There's a hell of a lot of people who use other people's Clarets numbers for big away games. Take this out of the equation and think we'll see a big difference.

Sean Dyche's Watch · Post by **Sean Dyche's Watch** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:10 pm

ClaretTony wrote:It's passport or driving licence with matching address, the address relating to the driving licence.

Ah, the article on the official website states:

'PLEASE NOTE: ALL tickets must be collected in person, along with either a driving licence or passport with matching address for that Clarets Number'

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:13 pm

Claretforshaw wrote:I am not sure whether this has been mentioned but could it be screened at Turf Moor?

now that's a bloody good idea...balmy summer night at Turf Moor!

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:13 pm

paulatky wrote:Not perfect ,but no system will please everyone.

Basically no children can go to any of the away games!

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:13 pm

Sean Dyche's Watch wrote:Ah, the article on the official website states:

'PLEASE NOTE: ALL tickets must be collected in person, along with either a driving licence or passport with matching address for that Clarets Number'

As has been posted, there is no address on your passport.

Burnley_Mark · Post by **Burnley_Mark** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:14 pm

Realistically, how many under 16s will be able to go to a midweek game away from home in Europe anyhow?

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:15 pm

paulatky wrote:A ticketing focus group was set up 18 months ,consisting of about 25 people,from apparently all cross sections of supporters.
Guess they have considered all options and decided to stick with the loyalty points system.
Not perfect ,but no system will please everyone.
Out of interest is any on here a member of that ticketing focus group

I'd love to know if that group even exists. I've looked for, but never found, any published output.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:16 pm

Burnley_Mark wrote:Realistically, how many under 16s will be able to go to a midweek game away from home in Europe anyhow?

True. I wonder how many went to Reading away in the second leg of the play-offs?

claretrobo1 · Post by **claretrobo1** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:16 pm

Burnley_Mark wrote:Realistically, how many under 16s will be able to go to a midweek game away from home in Europe anyhow?

Luckily I’m going into sixth form so it’ll be more flexible, however getting a ticket is the bigger hurdle

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:16 pm

Claretforshaw wrote:I am not sure whether this has been mentioned but could it be screened at Turf Moor?

Club are in negotiations with broadcasters so likely to be shown on TV

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:17 pm

What bright spark a) suggested 8k points and b) who agreed to it?

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:17 pm

Burnley_Mark wrote:Realistically, how many under 16s will be able to go to a midweek game away from home in Europe anyhow?

I just took the flak from Mrs TBR in the 08/09 season when trips to Chelsea and Spurs etc meant school was missed. Same in 09/10. Same would apply now.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:18 pm

I’ve also just noticed that you need the persons ID to collect the tickets so if you order any friends tickets linked to friends & family you’ll also need to get their passport or driving license to collect them

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:18 pm

Spijed wrote:True. I wonder how many went to Reading away in the second leg of the play-offs?

I took one very happy 12yo...

claretrobo1 · Post by **claretrobo1** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:19 pm

KRBFC wrote:Screw them, they aren't real fans, they weren't born soon enough. BFC don't care how many games they've attended either, plastic fans those under 16's.

I’m not plastic. I go to all the games supporting the team home and away whilst you sit on here whining 24/7. Your opinion is absurd. Can younger people not be fans of the club?

paulatky · Post by **paulatky** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:20 pm

But elsewhere says has to be collected in person

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:20 pm

claretrobo1 wrote:I’m not plastic. I go to all the games supporting the team home and away whilst you sit on here whining 24/7. Your opinion is absurd. Can younger people not be fans of the club?

I think you should go back to your school and ask for extra lessons in understanding irony.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:20 pm

claretrobo1 wrote:I’m not plastic. I go to all the games supporting the team home and away whilst you sit on here whining 24/7. Your opinion is absurd. Can younger people not be fans of the club?

At least you understood the joke

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:21 pm

claretrobo1 wrote:I’m not plastic. I go to all the games supporting the team home and away whilst you sit on here whining 24/7. Your opinion is absurd. Can younger people not be fans of the club?

Think his comment was tongue in cheek.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:21 pm

Burnley_Mark wrote:Realistically, how many under 16s will be able to go to a midweek game away from home in Europe anyhow?

It's the start of the summer holidays. I was going to take the kids up in a motorhome hoping for spares on the day if we as expected couldn't get them first up.

Nobody will pass unwanted tickets on though if it could result in a ban. They would rather lose the 25 quid ticket price.

Tuddybfc · Post by **Tuddybfc** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:21 pm

aggi wrote:Well UEFA regulations state:

When allocating match tickets to travel agents, the match organiser and the participating associations or clubs are responsible for ensuring that:
a) tickets are allocated only against production of documentary proof of identification of the spectators to whom tickets have been sold;

There's nothing about bans and the like.

The club are being wary not to get into any trouble with UEFA, which in my opinion is sensible

Sean Dyche's Watch · Post by **Sean Dyche's Watch** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:24 pm

ClaretTony wrote:As has been posted, there is no address on your passport.

I'm well aware of that, you're missing my point. I am saying that the way the article on the official website is phrased suggests that a passport with address matching the Clarets Number address is provided.

If a passport without matching address is accepted as ID, why specify driving licence with matching address? Would a driving licence without matching address be accepted?

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:24 pm

Will ID be necessary for home fans in either leg?

claretrobo1 · Post by **claretrobo1** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:24 pm

KRBFC wrote:At least you understood the joke

I shall read the context first next time

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:25 pm

claretrobo1 wrote:I’m not plastic. I go to all the games supporting the team home and away whilst you sit on here whining 24/7. Your opinion is absurd. Can younger people not be fans of the club?

Of course younger people can be fans of the club, it's just that they maybe can't understand sarcasm!

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:27 pm

Sean Dyche's Watch wrote:I'm well aware of that, you're missing my point. I am saying that the way the article on the official website is phrased suggests that a passport with address matching the Clarets Number address is provided.

If a passport without matching address is accepted as ID, why specify driving licence with matching address? Would a driving licence without matching address be accepted?

I dont think it should make a difference just as long as it has a picture to prove who you are

ClaretJimmy · Post by **ClaretJimmy** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:27 pm

jrgbfc wrote:Of course younger people can be fans of the club, it's just that they maybe can't understand sarcasm!

Christ you're the third person to dig out the lad in about 10 minutes. He missed the sarcasm and now he's got it so chill

ICL · Post by **ICL** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:27 pm

Do we have any idea when information for the home leg will be released?

claretrobo1 · Post by **claretrobo1** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:28 pm

jrgbfc wrote:Of course younger people can be fans of the club, it's just that they maybe can't understand sarcasm!

Ah **** I’m gonna shut up next time and I’ll laugh at my incompetence with yous! However my point still stands about the flawed system

Sean Dyche's Watch · Post by **Sean Dyche's Watch** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:30 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:I dont think it should make a difference just as long as it has a picture to prove who you are

If that's the case, and it's photo ID required only, then the club needs to drop the requirement for driving licence with matching clarets number address.

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:30 pm

ICL wrote:Do we have any idea when information for the home leg will be released?

You can only attend if you have 10m points and have been sucked off by Scarlett Johansson.

Tuddybfc · Post by **Tuddybfc** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:32 pm

Photo ID is a UEFA rather than club requirement. Article states you can take ID of the other person, so if you were collecting for another just take their driving license

Working_Class_Zero · Post by **Working_Class_Zero** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:32 pm

Could they should set the points for under 18s at half.
Day one - 8000 adult 4000 under 18, Day 2 7000, 3500 and so on. At least it may give younger fans half a chance.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:32 pm

Sean Dyche's Watch wrote:If that's the case, and it's photo ID required only, then the club needs to drop the requirement for driving licence with matching clarets number address.

Some people dont always notify dvla when they move . So there address could well be different to there clarets number address

Tuddybfc · Post by **Tuddybfc** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:34 pm

Working_Class_Zero wrote:Could they should set the points for under 18s at half.
Day one - 8000 adult 4000 under 18, Day 2 7000, 3500 and so on. At least it may give younger fans half a chance.

There's then the argument about where does it stop? I'm 19, should those extra few months I've been alive mean I should have 4000 more loyalty points?

claretrobo1 · Post by **claretrobo1** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:36 pm

So, correct me if I’m wrong, but haven’t Sunderland tried a system where loyalty resets after 3-5 years so it gives an idea on the more active and loyal fans at the time? Has it been a success and surely would it be a much fairer method? I get that every system will screw some people up but at least it doesn’t eliminate the younger generation completely?

Sean Dyche's Watch · Post by **Sean Dyche's Watch** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:36 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:Some people dont always notify dvla when they move . So there address could well be different to there clarets number address

Exactly.

But the club are requesting a driving licence with matching registered address of the clarets number.

What happens if someone has a driving licence with a different address to the clarets number registered address? Will that ID be accepted?

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:36 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:Some people dont always notify dvla when they move . So there address could well be different to there clarets number address

I'm not sure it's the club's job to look after people who are contravening section 99 of the RTA 1988.

Working_Class_Zero · Post by **Working_Class_Zero** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:41 pm

Tuddybfc wrote:There's then the argument about where does it stop? I'm 19, should those extra few months I've been alive mean I should have 4000 more loyalty points?

The extra few months will cost you £16 more quid for a ticket. Never going to be a solution but it would be a shame if children can't go to any Euro away games.

Tuddybfc · Post by **Tuddybfc** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:45 pm

Working_Class_Zero wrote:The extra few months will cost you £16 more quid for a ticket. Never going to be a solution but it would be a shame if children can't go to any Euro away games.

My point wasn't financial, it was to do with points. If U18s could get tickets at 4000 points yet myself (On over 6000) couldn't because I am a few months older, that's hardly a fair system.

KlyBfc · Post by **KlyBfc** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:47 pm

The extreme sanctions / consequence of getting caught are very strange. I know an awful lot of United and Liverpool fans who travel across Europe with away tickets bought off people who can’t go or don’t want to go. Exactly the same for home games where season ticket holders purchase the tickets and sell them on.

I’m sure the Aberdeen fans have down exactly that as well during their trips across Europe in the past.