Neymar

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:34 pm

Bellend of the highest order. The play acting has been shameful all round this world cup but he just sums up everything that is wrong in the game.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:35 pm

I'll ask again... did you miss the step on the ankle? It was a clear red card.

Edited for the braincell deprived.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:35 pm

Agreed.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:36 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I'll ask again... did you miss the stamp on the ankle? It was a clear red card.

Rubbish

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:37 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I'll ask again... did you miss the stamp on the ankle? It was a clear red card.

Glad you aren't reffing!

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:38 pm

I'd definitely swap him for Ash the Bash.

claretrobo1 · Post by **claretrobo1** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:38 pm

Red card? Rubbish. No force applied onto his ankle at all, it was barely touching from what I saw. Rolling around was more likely to cause an injury

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:38 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I'll ask again... did you miss the stamp on the ankle? It was a clear red card.

not a stamp Frank, he stood on his ankle yes, but not a stamp. And I agree it was IMO a red card, but the theatrics from Neymar are uncalled for and are ruining the game. I cant wait for him to have a genuine injury (leg break for example) and for the players around him to not give a f#ck because he's always crying wolf - and yes, I do mean that, he is a cancer in the game and he needs stopping.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:39 pm

starting_11 wrote:Glad you aren't reffing!

Erm... he went over and picked the ball up and purposely stood on his ankle. How the chuffing hell is that not a red card?

Oh - and ITV have asked one of the referees - Clattenburg? And he said it was a red card.

Thank you.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:40 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:And I agree it was IMO a red card

Thank you.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:41 pm

claretrobo1 wrote:Red card? Rubbish. No force applied onto his ankle at all, it was barely touching from what I saw. Rolling around was more likely to cause an injury

Are you taking the Michael Twiss? He purposely did it! He purposely stood on his ankle to try and put him out of the game.

Anybody with 5 braincells knows it was a red card.

Leyland Claret · Post by **Leyland Claret** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:41 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I'll ask again... did you miss the stamp on the ankle? It was a clear red card.

I didn’t see a stamp...I saw a big fanny roll around like he’d just been 2 footed by Roy Keane and Razor Ruddock and was nursing a triple fracture of both legs. That Neymar is a bellend of the highest order

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:42 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Erm... he went over and picked the ball up and purposely stood on his ankle. How the chuffing hell is that not a red card?
Aaaah the great mark clattenburg
Oh - and ITV have asked one of the referees - Clattenburg? And he said it was a red card.

Thank you.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:42 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Thank you.

At least acknowledge that Neymar was play acting though, because he was. The red card was warranted because a rule was broken, not his ankle.

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:43 pm

claretrobo1 wrote:Red card? Rubbish. No force applied onto his ankle at all, it was barely touching from what I saw. Rolling around was more likely to cause an injury

Correct and the Mexican player also stood on the Linesman or 4th official when he caught Neymar but I didn't see the official roll around like he'd been shot!

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:44 pm

Leisure wrote:Correct and the Mexican player also stood on the Linesman or 4th official when he caught Neymar but I didn't see the official roll around like he'd been shot!

Incorrect.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:44 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Are you taking the Michael Twiss? He purposely did it! He purposely stood on his ankle to try and put him out of the game.

Anybody with 5 braincells knows it was a red card.

So you have 5 brain cells..

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:45 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:At least acknowledge that Neymar was play acting though, because he was. The red card was warranted because a rule was broken, not his ankle.

That's not my point. My point is the act should have resulted in a red card.

Any play acting doesn't remove the fact it was still a red card. I can only assume people are drowning that fact due to his rolling around. But it's still a red card, regardless.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:46 pm

He spoilt the game.. end of story.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:47 pm

tim_noone wrote:So you have 5 brain cells..

Well at least you have a sense of humour. Knows naff all about football, but you have a sense of humour.

claretrobo1 · Post by **claretrobo1** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:47 pm

Surely a ‘stamp’ implies he really put some high pressure and force onto his ankle to inflict pain? From the replays, it looks like the studs feathered his socks at the most. A proper stamp is like Bikey on Blake in the play offs, which is a red card all over. Can’t believe people are being fooled by Neymar’s acting

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:47 pm

FactualFrank wrote: He purposely did it! He purposely stood on his ankle to try and put him out of the game.

Only he knows if he did it on purpose.

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:48 pm

'He spolt the game, end of story' bit over the top there, Mr Tim.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:49 pm

Hope someone gives him a right f...ing dig he has zero respect for his opponents or the game of football.

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:49 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Incorrect.

What is?

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:49 pm

Leisure wrote:Only he knows if he did it on purpose.

It was a red card.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:50 pm

It's not just this game frank. He is like this in every game and its spreading like wildfire in the sport. It sickens me that kids look upto him and idolise him. He isn't fit to lace Brazilian Ronaldo's boots. Whether or not it was a red i dont care, its debatable anyway. Its the reaction.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:50 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I'll ask again... did you miss the stamp on the ankle? It was a clear red card.

stamp ?? **** me backwards, not even close to being a stamp - he gently trod on him and whilst it should have been a red it was a million miles away from being a stamp !

I actually can't wait until Neymar gets a proper kicking to see how many rolls he does

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:51 pm

Vino blanco wrote:'He spolt the game, end of story' bit over the top there, Mr Tim.

imo of course.

ColonelCool · Post by **ColonelCool** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:51 pm

Not a stamp, but easily a red card.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:51 pm

A few minutes ago we had thiago silva rolling around on the floor after the attacker dared to nudge him. This is a centre back for Christ's sake. A lot of players in this world cup ought to be embarrassed and ashamed of themselves.

Ashingtonclaret46 · Post by **Ashingtonclaret46** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:51 pm

If it had been me stamping on somebody's ankle he certainly would not have been on the field to lay on the second goal, particularly when you look at how easy it would have been to really hurt him in the position that he was sat!

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:53 pm

FactualFrank wrote:That's not my point. My point is the act should have resulted in a red card.

Any play acting doesn't remove the fact it was still a red card. I can only assume people are drowning that fact due to his rolling around. But it's still a red card, regardless.

...and Neymar is still a c#nt, regardless - and he and his ilk have been ruining the game for years now. Thats my point.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:54 pm

Wooahh.... people are arguing about whether it was a stamp or not. That is not the issue! Can you not see that?

The issue is what actually happened. He walked over, picked the ball up and stood on his ankle. THAT is the issue. And an ex-professional referee has also said it was a red card. Because it was.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:55 pm

FactualFrank wrote:That's not my point. My point is the act should have resulted in a red card.

Any play acting doesn't remove the fact it was still a red card. I can only assume people are drowning that fact due to his rolling around. But it's still a red card, regardless.

we will leave it to VAR.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:55 pm

ColonelCool wrote:Not a stamp, but easily a red card.

I know. There was intent.

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:58 pm

FF - Watch the incident again. The front of the Mexican's players foot goes onto Naymar's ankle and the heel of his foot goes onto the foot of the official's black boot.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:00 pm

Leisure wrote:FF - Watch the incident again. The front of the Mexican's players foot goes onto Naymar's ankle and the heel of his foot goes onto the foot of the official's black boot.

So a 2 in 1 job? I don't see how you can do that by accident. You'd know your foot was touching something so move it.

And it's not just me. Like I say - Clattenburg has also come out and said it was a red card.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:02 pm

Red card or not, his reaction was "pathetic."
Martin O'Neill.

ColonelCool · Post by **ColonelCool** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:02 pm

Ive lost track of the debate. It was a red card no doubt about it, but not a stamp.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:03 pm

One of those rare players who I’d really love to see leave the pitch with a bone sticking out of their shin.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:03 pm

Martin O'neill with the line of the World Cup - asked about Neymar's theatrics "I wouldn't like to see him coming out of the doctors after a flu injection"

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:03 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:Red card or not, his reaction was "pathetic."
Martin O'Neill.

And that is the point. Its irrelevant whether it was a red card or not. I genuinely wish him to get something to roll on the floor about. Cretin.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:04 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:Red card or not, his reaction was "pathetic."
Martin O'Neill.

That's never been what I've been getting at. It was still a red card. Do you agree? Because that is all I've been on about.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:06 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:And that is the point. Its irrelevant whether it was a red card or not.

No! That IS my point. I'm on about it being a red card. People have said, no it isn't. Twitter currently seems to be suggesting the same thing - that it's a red card.

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:08 pm

He an absolute cock.

When ever in the history of this planet has somebody hurt theirselves and rolled around. Why pretend your hurt and roll?? It makes no sense. Cavendish doesn’t roll about when he brakes his arm or Schumacher didn’t climb out of his car and roll about.

Goodclaret · Post by **Goodclaret** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:14 pm

Neymar has been an absolute disgrace this WC. In between him being a total, cheating tw4t he is obviously a good player. I was begging one of the Mexicans to go through the back of him when they'd gone 2 nil down. Just to give him something real to cry about.

Oh and, yeah, it was a red card. Not a stamp but you can't deliberately make contact like that and stay on the pitch, especially with VAR reviewing it ......... oh, maybe you can!?

But let's not be in any doubt, Neymar is a tw4t!

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:18 pm

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happyclaret17 · Post by **happyclaret17** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:20 pm

taking out of the equation neymars play acting...todays press of the studs ( not stamp ) was a clear red card....right decision....but for his record of play acting I would give him the benefit of the doubt on the rolling around....as we all know, a relatively inocuious tap in the wrong place can hurt like a bstrd.....but I have had hidious pain in my life without ever ever rolling around on the floor....

Ashingtonclaret46 · Post by **Ashingtonclaret46** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:20 pm

Just received a text from my 15 year old grandson saying "What is Neymar playing at granddad? He is diving around all over the place and pretending he is injured, he is beyond a joke and a disgrace to the game" --I gave him a favourable response and told him not to even think about playing the game in the Neymar way.