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People born in England who make some effected claim to support other countries

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:02 pm

Ridiculous two hats.

Got a lad over here born in Blackpool, but supports Celtic because of his dad. Says he'll be cheering Sweden on today.

Ive told him he wont be watching with me

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Post by piston broke » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:03 pm

The death penalty is still available for treason.

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Post by Imploding Turtle » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:03 pm

Why do you care?
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Post by thatdberight » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:06 pm

affected*
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Post by ŽižkovClaret » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:06 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Why do you care?
He's ridiculous. English Celtic fan who gives it all the "up the RA" nonsense. He's from Blackpool ffs. I'm more Irish than him. I despise two-hattery
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Post by TheFamilyCat » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:09 pm

There's plenty of players who were born in England who've played for other countries thanks to equally tenuous links.

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Post by bobinho » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:10 pm

I have an affinity for the iron. NI, not scunny.

Because of yer maun Billy Hamilton. Now he WAS class.

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Post by Imploding Turtle » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:17 pm

I like it when the minnows do well. That's why i want England to win the world cup.

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Post by ŽižkovClaret » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:19 pm

thatdberight wrote:affected*
Nah, reckon i'm good thanks.

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Post by thatdberight » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:20 pm

ZizkovClaret wrote:Nah, reckon i'm good thanks.
It's your right to be wrong.

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Post by ŽižkovClaret » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:25 pm

thatdberight wrote:It's your right to be wrong.
Effect comes from Latin efficere, from ex-, "out", and facere, "to cause/make/do". When you effect something, you cause something to exist that didn't exist before: first it was in the darkness of nothingness, then it comes "out" into the world of reality. Notice the parallel to ex- in exist.

He is creating a claim, thus it is effected

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Post by thatdberight » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:29 pm

ZizkovClaret wrote:Effect comes from Latin efficere, from ex-, "out", and facere, "to cause/make/do". When you effect something, you cause something to exist that didn't exist before: first it was in the darkness of nothingness, then it comes "out" into the world of reality. Notice the parallel to ex- in exist.

He is creating a claim, thus it is effected
In the context you've used it, you're claiming it's an affectation. It's affected. I understand the etymology of 'effect' and 'affect' both as verbs and nouns.
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Post by Wile E Coyote » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:35 pm

ZizkovClaret wrote:Ridiculous two hats.

Got a lad over here born in Blackpool, but supports Celtic because of his dad. Says he'll be cheering Sweden on today.

Ive told him he wont be watching with me
you're a berk if you cant understand that.

thousands of people with mixed United kingdom roots, scots, welsh, Irish, they have long standing affinities with the familial countries because its part of their childhood influences.
Same applies to other countries.

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Post by ŽižkovClaret » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:38 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:you're a berk if you cant understand that.

thousands of people with mixed United kingdom roots, scots, welsh, Irish, they have long standing affinities with the familial countries because its part of their childhood influences.
Same applies to other countries.
He's such a cock about it though haha

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Post by thatdberight » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:43 pm

ZizkovClaret wrote:He's such a cock about it though haha
No. I think you're right. My kids were born in a different country to me. While I expect they have some fondness for my country of birth and where I grew up, I expect them to support their country, even (especially?) against mine. Anything else would be weird and reflect a failure on my part. If my kids supported my country of birth, I'd suggest they **** off there if they like it so much.

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Post by chekhov » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:57 pm

I've tried getting behind France since I've been here 6 years seems only fair. To be honest my heart isn't in it, I'm just not that bothered.
I think it's one of those things which we don't really have a choice about. It's more of a gut thing.
As a Burnley supporter I can't explain my elation when we win, same with England. I think our clubs (or countries) choose us rather than the other way round.

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Post by Wile E Coyote » Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:04 pm

I was born in Burnley of scottish parents, I had years of being taken to Hampden Park by relatives, then similar in England at Wembley !
Doesn't half screw your mind up as an adult.

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Post by Imploding Turtle » Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:31 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:I was born in Burnley of scottish parents, I had years of being taken to Hampden Park by relatives, then similar in England at Wembley !
Doesn't half screw your mind up as an adult.
Same with me. I was born here but raised in Scotland and Scotland was where i started to love football (Rangers and Morton). Moved to England in 94 and Euro 96 was the first tournament i was interested in that had home nations. I still can't remember a half-hour of football more exciting that the England/Germany extra-time.

Hated the Scotland v England result though. And be in no doubt i'm always Scotland before England. But i'd love to see England win this thing now.
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Post by Tribesmen » Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:17 am

It's a bit like saying all Cricketers who play for England were born there .

Not sure how it all works as I sound very Burnley yep born in Ireland . I know a hell of a lot of Irish lads who follow the international side that are born in England but are more Irish than the Irish if you get my drift .

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Post by JohnMac » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:15 am

Conceived in British Guyana, born in Scotland, raised in England.

Now you know why I'm such a mover on the dance floor, like food that isn't strictly good for you and am happy for England to win the World Cup :lol:

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Post by Corky » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:22 am

People are entitled to support who they want.

I moved to London from Padiham (similar places) in 1972 and for the past 40 odd years have lived in either Surrey or Hampshire. I support Lancashire CC and Lowerhouse of course.
My son born and bred in the south is a Burnley FC fan as a result of my influence.
Barnes could end up playing for Austria.
Some people need to relax and have a coke, have a smoke.

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Post by Rileybobs » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:27 am

Faux Welsh are the worst.

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Post by Ptangyangkipperbang » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:58 am

Having distant Spanish relations I have always supported Spain in modern football until I saw the light after the last 16 of this world cup
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Post by ecc » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:23 am

"Having distant Spanish relations I have always supported Spain in modern football until I saw the light after the last 16 of this world cup" :)

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Post by Yearofthefox » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:51 am

What's the issue, I've and Irish mother and Irish grandparents.. Yes I was born in Lancashire but I do tend follow Ireland but I've no massive love of international football really.

I love Burnley through and through!!! But I'm not an England follower but glad it's a little unity for most people.... Til they hate each other come August again

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Post by scrambledclaret » Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:31 am

I was born in London but grew up in Sydney. Is it ok if I support Burnley and Australia?

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Post by tim_noone » Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:49 am

Corky wrote:People are entitled to support who they want.

I moved to London from Padiham (similar places) in 1972 and for the past 40 odd years have lived in either Surrey or Hampshire. I support Lancashire CC and Lowerhouse of course.
My son born and bred in the south is a Burnley FC fan as a result of my influence.
Barnes could end up playing for Austria.
Some people need to relax and have a coke, have a smoke.
I would never Equate Diverse London with insular Padiham (similar places)?

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Post by timshorts » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:55 pm

Maybe if the English treated immigrant families better, their children wouldn't feel so affiliated to their parents countries.

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Post by thatdberight » Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:02 pm

timshorts wrote:Maybe if the English treated immigrant families better, their children wouldn't feel so affiliated to their parents countries.
You're right. It's terrible for them here. That's why they don't come any more. Oh, no, hang on a mo. That's not right.

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Post by Imploding Turtle » Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:10 pm

thatdberight wrote:You're right. It's terrible for them here. That's why they don't come any more. Oh, no, hang on a mo. That's not right.
We're better than places more close to some of their homes, where they set immigrants on fire and the police call it suicide.

Though i guess i should be careful about giving the far-right any ideas.

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Post by SGr » Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:14 pm

Lot of it’s for attention. “I’m 1/4 Irish therefore I support Ireland”, etc

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Post by levraiclaret » Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:25 pm

scrambledclaret wrote:I was born in London but grew up in Sydney. Is it ok if I support Burnley and Australia?
It's always ok to support Burnley.

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